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[Rubicon] Command Ship Models

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Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#541 - 2013-10-14 19:31:44 UTC
Aesheera wrote:
Battlingbean wrote:
Where were all you whiners when this idea was proposed? I remember when everyone I knew in EVE thought that a Kaalakiota Drake would be freaking awesome. Now that it is finally here CCP is drowning in tears. I'm surprised they modify the game at all with this crying.

I like the changes. Especially the CreoDron Myrmidon.

Whiners?
No one is against the t2 versions of said BC's.
In fact I welcome T2 Canes, Drakes and Myrms.

Just don't slap them on perfectly fine Commandship hulls.
The complaints are legit: most of these hulls are pretty damn signature to said ships.

Make a new, special BC class to use these hulls for.

Even with the update the command ships affected are still perfectly fine. I look forward to being able to fly an absolution again and will still fly the sleipnir. And really, looking at both I prefer a drake to a ferox in Kaalakiota colors.

Besides, when can we realistically expect another set of T2 BC's? Do we really have room for such a ship without further exasperating the issue of ships stepping on each others toes, something BC's of all categories are infamous for? What role would they serve? And personally, if we have to wait for all of that before getting these hulls, what are the chances of ever getting T2 ships with the ABC hulls?
GordonO
BURN EDEN
#542 - 2013-10-14 19:36:55 UTC
Tyberius Franklin wrote:
Aesheera wrote:
Battlingbean wrote:
Where were all you whiners when this idea was proposed? I remember when everyone I knew in EVE thought that a Kaalakiota Drake would be freaking awesome. Now that it is finally here CCP is drowning in tears. I'm surprised they modify the game at all with this crying.

I like the changes. Especially the CreoDron Myrmidon.

Whiners?
No one is against the t2 versions of said BC's.
In fact I welcome T2 Canes, Drakes and Myrms.

Just don't slap them on perfectly fine Commandship hulls.
The complaints are legit: most of these hulls are pretty damn signature to said ships.

Make a new, special BC class to use these hulls for.

Even with the update the command ships affected are still perfectly fine. I look forward to being able to fly an absolution again and will still fly the sleipnir. And really, looking at both I prefer a drake to a ferox in Kaalakiota colors.

Besides, when can we realistically expect another set of T2 BC's? Do we really have room for such a ship without further exasperating the issue of ships stepping on each others toes, something BC's of all categories are infamous for? What role would they serve? And personally, if we have to wait for all of that before getting these hulls, what are the chances of ever getting T2 ships with the ABC hulls?


I would hope they make the nighthawk useable before they introduce a T2 version. Unless you using the NH for boosting, there really is no reason to choose it for pvp over the drake.

... What next ??

Wrayeth
Inexorable Retribution
#543 - 2013-10-15 06:57:58 UTC
GordonO wrote:
I would hope they make the nighthawk useable before they introduce a T2 version. Unless you using the NH for boosting, there really is no reason to choose it for pvp over the drake.


I was very disappointed when they didn't give the nighthawk a 6th mid, myself. I've been campaigning for that on and off for at least six years, and the only time I got a dev response was to say that it might be looked at the next time the Nighthawk comes up for general review. Well, the Nighthawk came up for general review, and it still didn't get the sixth mid it needs to become a good ship.
May O'Neez
Flying Blacksmiths
#544 - 2013-10-15 07:49:19 UTC  |  Edited by: May O'Neez
Tempest Fleet issue killed in visual: check (lost square wings, station-camouflage painting)
Claymore killed both in visual and minmatarness: check (wanna fly a charcoal ?)

and ... Sleipnir killed in visual: check

I'm really disappointed, again. What is proposed here is merely change the hull into a faction T1 with a different color. I wouldn't have mind the sleipnir to loose it's hull if it was for a better one, but it's not. Not only for the sleipnir but also the other CS.

Let's just hope it's temporary
zerquse
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#545 - 2013-10-15 13:21:37 UTC
make the myrm blackish like the eos
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#546 - 2013-10-15 19:32:10 UTC
May O'Neez wrote:
Tempest Fleet issue killed in visual:

You shut your lying mouth.
Varenth Esher
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#547 - 2013-10-15 20:02:52 UTC
I approve of this product/service. I've been waiting to fly a blood red harbinger!
Celeste Lovette
#548 - 2013-10-16 09:28:49 UTC
I really like those changes, keep doing it Blink

"Life isn't about finding yourself. Life is about creating yourself."

Aesheera
Doomheim
#549 - 2013-10-16 10:32:45 UTC
zerquse wrote:
make the myrm blackish like the eos

Not using a color monitor I see?

- I think my passion is misinterpreted as anger sometimes. And I don't think people are ready for the message that I'm delivering, and delivering with a sense of violent love.

zerquse
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#550 - 2013-10-16 13:09:16 UTC
Aesheera wrote:
zerquse wrote:
make the myrm blackish like the eos

Not using a color monitor I see?


i could swear it used to be blackisk
May O'Neez
Flying Blacksmiths
#551 - 2013-10-16 15:23:31 UTC
Tyberius Franklin wrote:
May O'Neez wrote:
Tempest Fleet issue killed in visual:

You shut your lying mouth.


Not lying, you apparently didn't fly much these ships or didn't care. And when I look at other post it seems I'm not alone in thinking that it is not a model change but a texture change. I still don't understand why there's a few T2 ships which get a different hull and other not, this should also be part of balance ...
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
#552 - 2013-10-16 18:39:24 UTC
zerquse wrote:
Aesheera wrote:
zerquse wrote:
make the myrm blackish like the eos

Not using a color monitor I see?


i could swear it used to be blackisk


Post-V3 CreoDron colors are some kind of weird spectral green-blueish thing. A lot of the people who are commenting on the Eos having strange colors are only previewing it or only looking at it in their hangar. When you undock in it (so glad I got BC V and Command Ships I trained before their changes came through) it's the correct Post-V3 color.
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#553 - 2013-10-16 19:14:53 UTC
May O'Neez wrote:
Tyberius Franklin wrote:
May O'Neez wrote:
Tempest Fleet issue killed in visual:

You shut your lying mouth.


Not lying, you apparently didn't fly much these ships or didn't care. And when I look at other post it seems I'm not alone in thinking that it is not a model change but a texture change. I still don't understand why there's a few T2 ships which get a different hull and other not, this should also be part of balance ...

Not saying it didn't change, I am saying I like the new one better.
Aesheera
Doomheim
#554 - 2013-10-17 15:04:16 UTC
zerquse wrote:
Aesheera wrote:
zerquse wrote:
make the myrm blackish like the eos

Not using a color monitor I see?


i could swear it used to be blackisk

Pre first graphics update, the Eos was white and Green :D

- I think my passion is misinterpreted as anger sometimes. And I don't think people are ready for the message that I'm delivering, and delivering with a sense of violent love.

Kirren D'marr
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#555 - 2013-10-17 18:04:38 UTC
It would be nice to see some consistency out of these decisions.

Interdictors are also getting a rebalance with Rubicon. However, with this rebalance, there is no mention of changes to the models. This means that it's ok for the Flycatcher, primarily a missile ship, to continue to use the hull of the Cormorant, which is primarily a hybrid turret ship.

Yet somehow, it is wrong for the Nighthawk to have a Ferox hull instead of the Drake?

Why a switch on/off? Because the new animation doesn't add anything to gameplay and it's graphically annoying. In other words, it's worse than bad: it's useless. Simple as that.     _ - Kina Ayami_

Weasel Leblanc
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#556 - 2013-10-17 18:19:15 UTC
This brings up one thing that annoys me to no end: certain Tech II paintjobs are damn near indistinguishable from their faction's base colors.

Now, don't get me wrong, I'm quite fond of how the new versions of the Absolution and the Nighthawk look thanks to their color schemes, but as for the other two? They are direly lacking in visual distinction from the base hulls. CreoDron colors inevitably wind up just looking like a slightly less shiny version of normal Gallente ships, and Boundless Creations - at least, as far as color goes - just winds up looking like a slightly brighter basic Minmatar ship. (I can't tell if the solar panel fins on the Sleipnir are any different from a Hurricane's because the resolution is so dang tiny.)

Adding a little bit of extra visual kibble would go a long way towards making the ships more distinctive. It works well enough for assault frigates.
Takari
Promised Victorious Entropy
#557 - 2013-10-17 20:00:19 UTC
Quote:
This means that it's ok for the Flycatcher, primarily a missile ship, to continue to use the hull of the Cormorant, which is primarily a hybrid turret ship.


I agree. A Kaalakiota Corax is too beautiful an idea to pass up. CCP should make it so!

"Roll the dice, don't think twice. This is the way of things. Welcome to EVE." ~ CCP Falcon

"Good luck, shoot straight and don't back down." - Serendipity Lost

Jaz Antollare
SovNarKom.
Goonswarm Federation
#558 - 2013-10-18 08:41:20 UTC
More exausts for the new EOS!!! Like on Ishkur and IshtarCool
Wey'oun
#559 - 2013-10-18 09:59:05 UTC
Whilst you are at it, how about a new icon for Command Processors. Using the same icon as a cyno can get confusing when trying to fit cyno command ships in a rush. I accidentally warped to a titan with 4 cynos and no on-line links in a damnation the other day :P
Yathsou Athanah
Second Sons
Brave United
#560 - 2013-10-18 19:20:55 UTC
I like the thukker mix impression hurricane from EOH labs a lot more to be honest:

http://www.eohgames.com/labs/Ships/Thukker%20Mix%20Hurricane

it's a much more distinguishable paintjob


also, obligatory sidenote: Wing Command boost fix? When? It's been too long...