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Pinky Feldman
Dirt 'n' Glitter
Local Is Primary
#61 - 2013-10-14 20:08:10 UTC
Speaking of failed caldari nullsec FW entities, whatever happened to B2K after they inevitably got curbstomped by the Gallente?

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Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#62 - 2013-10-14 23:09:42 UTC
Pinky Feldman wrote:
Speaking of failed caldari nullsec FW entities, whatever happened to B2K after they inevitably got curbstomped by the Gallente?


Whats your beef with B2K?

Good pilots, best plants gallente have ever placed in cal mil to create turmoil!
X Gallentius
Black Eagle1
#63 - 2013-10-14 23:52:48 UTC
Crosi Wesdo wrote:
Whats your beef with B2K?

Good pilots, best plants gallente have ever placed in cal mil to create turmoil!

Not better than "The Don".
Pinky Feldman
Dirt 'n' Glitter
Local Is Primary
#64 - 2013-10-15 00:47:10 UTC
X Gallentius wrote:
Crosi Wesdo wrote:
Whats your beef with B2K?

Good pilots, best plants gallente have ever placed in cal mil to create turmoil!

Not better than "The Don".


Yeah, but he never gave us hilarious soundcloud recordings. Only crushed hopes and dreams of hundreds of farmers. Truly the don was a person of the people even to the end.

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Pinky Feldman
Dirt 'n' Glitter
Local Is Primary
#65 - 2013-10-15 00:49:41 UTC
Crosi Wesdo wrote:
Pinky Feldman wrote:
Speaking of failed caldari nullsec FW entities, whatever happened to B2K after they inevitably got curbstomped by the Gallente?


Whats your beef with B2K?

Good pilots, best plants gallente have ever placed in cal mil to create turmoil!


I don't have any beef with them, except CAAN0N who initiated a corp theft of No Moar Tears before kicking all of the members. He has been set red to the Amarr Militia Loyalist 24th Imperial Coalition.

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Tetsuo Tsukaya
Perkone
Caldari State
#66 - 2013-10-15 00:58:51 UTC
Pinky Feldman wrote:
Zen Guerrilla wrote:
Pinky Feldman wrote:
[...] they still have nullsec level internal 'organization', something that doesn't really exist in FW outside of Fweddit.

I can't help but think Fweddits 'nullsec level internal organization' is a MOTD in their alliance channel:

Shitfit of the week: t1 shield thrashers, because we never learn
Local spam of the week: ANYTHING WITH HASHTAGS, it's ironic and thus really clever #YOLOSWAG


No, it's their auth services like coalition wide jabber and logistics organization. It doesn't seem like a lot but in the context of FW where no one has any organization at all it sets them apart quite a bit.

Also they have better doctrines than t1 shield thrashers but they're apparently not considered engagable.


You know, if you're a fan of TEST's logistics I'd be more than happy to provide you guys with an uncollateralized jump freighter service that would just run off with all your **** and then blame you guys because I was really busy and you're horrible customers.

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Pinky Feldman
Dirt 'n' Glitter
Local Is Primary
#67 - 2013-10-15 01:02:04 UTC
Tetsuo Tsukaya wrote:
Pinky Feldman wrote:
Zen Guerrilla wrote:
Pinky Feldman wrote:
[...] they still have nullsec level internal 'organization', something that doesn't really exist in FW outside of Fweddit.

I can't help but think Fweddits 'nullsec level internal organization' is a MOTD in their alliance channel:

Shitfit of the week: t1 shield thrashers, because we never learn
Local spam of the week: ANYTHING WITH HASHTAGS, it's ironic and thus really clever #YOLOSWAG


No, it's their auth services like coalition wide jabber and logistics organization. It doesn't seem like a lot but in the context of FW where no one has any organization at all it sets them apart quite a bit.

Also they have better doctrines than t1 shield thrashers but they're apparently not considered engagable.


You know, if you're a fan of TEST's logistics I'd be more than happy to provide you guys with an uncollateralized jump freighter service that would just run off with all your **** and then blame you guys because I was really busy and you're horrible customers.

Message Tetsuo Tsukaya in game for more details


Why would we outsource an uncollateralized jump freighter service?

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IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome
#68 - 2013-10-15 01:24:21 UTC
X Gallentius wrote:
Crosi Wesdo wrote:
Whats your beef with B2K?

Good pilots, best plants gallente have ever placed in cal mil to create turmoil!

Not better than "The Don".


B2K caused way more trouble - mostly for beginners to FW who base in High Sec, but overall it was a way bigger shitfight.









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Baron' Soontir Fel
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#69 - 2013-10-15 03:43:51 UTC
IbanezLaney wrote:


B2K caused way more trouble - mostly for beginners to FW who base in High Sec, but overall it was a way bigger shitfight.




Considering everybody except like Templis and OMG based in Ichoriya it was a lot of trouble. They killed stupid amounts of ships.
IbanezLaney
The Church of Awesome
#70 - 2013-10-15 05:39:07 UTC
Baron' Soontir Fel wrote:
IbanezLaney wrote:


B2K caused way more trouble - mostly for beginners to FW who base in High Sec, but overall it was a way bigger shitfight.




Considering everybody except like Templis and OMG based in Ichoriya it was a lot of trouble. They killed stupid amounts of ships.



Yeah - Others were told to move out of high sec but they refused to listen to my wise words and they paid the price.


Personally - I had a lot of fun during that war.
Very few people know the evil shenanigans I got up to in the background during that war. At times it was EPIC LOLZ.

During that war - A filthy traitor (much like yourself) learned an important life lesson about loyalty and that if you stab us in the back once - We will stab you in the front twice.

Maybe one day I'll tell the whole story. Big smileBig smileBig smile

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Pinky Feldman
Dirt 'n' Glitter
Local Is Primary
#71 - 2013-10-15 09:30:17 UTC
X Gallentius
Black Eagle1
#72 - 2013-10-15 10:59:07 UTC
Nice title Pinky, and gfs.
Pinky Feldman
Dirt 'n' Glitter
Local Is Primary
#73 - 2013-10-15 13:13:55 UTC
X Gallentius wrote:
Nice title Pinky, and gfs.


Gfs for sure. I'm just happy you guys were willing to fight despite initial claims of "too much logi". It's amazing what a little Ewar does with solid damage application. The funny thing with logi is that a lot of times your opponent claims that you won because of the EFT numbers that your logi should theoretically able to rep, when they don't know that throughout most of the fight half your logi was either jammed, damped, or neuted and the real reason they couldn't break reps was because half of the fleet shooting the primary wasn't in optimal or still burning into range and a quarter of the fleet was ignoring the primary all together and doing their own thing.

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Lexiana Del'Amore
Nouvelle Rouvenor
#74 - 2013-10-16 07:09:51 UTC
Pinky Feldman wrote:
because half of the fleet shooting the primary wasn't in optimal or still burning into range and a quarter of the fleet was ignoring the primary all together and doing their own thing.


you know us sooo well
George Gouillot
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#75 - 2013-10-16 09:01:29 UTC
Pinky Feldman wrote:
X Gallentius wrote:
Nice title Pinky, and gfs.


Gfs for sure. I'm just happy you guys were willing to fight despite initial claims of "too much logi". It's amazing what a little Ewar does with solid damage application. The funny thing with logi is that a lot of times your opponent claims that you won because of the EFT numbers that your logi should theoretically able to rep, when they don't know that throughout most of the fight half your logi was either jammed, damped, or neuted and the real reason they couldn't break reps was because half of the fleet shooting the primary wasn't in optimal or still burning into range and everyone in the fleet was ignoring the primary all together and doing their own thing.


... fixed that for you ...
Baron' Soontir Fel
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#76 - 2013-10-16 16:49:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Baron' Soontir Fel
IbanezLaney wrote:

During that war - A filthy traitor (much like yourself) ...


I left CalMil/Templis because fights were *relatively* impossible and frustrating to find. Much more fulfilling experience in JUSTK/GalMil.

And now Test is joining CalMil so plenty of fights will be happening.
Leto Thule
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#77 - 2013-10-16 18:05:23 UTC
Baron' Soontir Fel wrote:
IbanezLaney wrote:

During that war - A filthy traitor (much like yourself) ...


I left CalMil/Templis because fights were *relatively* impossible and frustrating to find. Much more fulfilling experience in JUSTK/GalMil.

And now Test is joining CalMil so plenty of fights will be happening.


You left Calmil to join JustK to FIND fights?

Guys, its no secret that the Galmil guys WAY outnumber the calmil'ers.

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Rovain Sess
Wu Fanged
#78 - 2013-10-16 18:29:29 UTC
This thread is so full of what ifs and ifs. Now that TEST is in, lets see what happens. But just to continue the thread of endless possibilities:

What if Test don't fracture?
What if Test can provide a backbone for larger operational doctrines?
What if they can bring their weight of overall numbers to a system near you?
What if a majority of Calmil fractionalism can be put on hold?

Then the lillypad kingdoms will catch on fire, and tier dominance will burn away. If nothing else well all have more even good fights.
I'm selfish tho, I'd like to see a different status quo in the longest war.
Crosi Wesdo
War and Order
#79 - 2013-10-16 23:51:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Crosi Wesdo
Leto Thule wrote:
Baron' Soontir Fel wrote:
IbanezLaney wrote:

During that war - A filthy traitor (much like yourself) ...


I left CalMil/Templis because fights were *relatively* impossible and frustrating to find. Much more fulfilling experience in JUSTK/GalMil.

And now Test is joining CalMil so plenty of fights will be happening.


You left Calmil to join JustK to FIND fights?

Guys, its no secret that the Galmil guys WAY outnumber the calmil'ers.


This is just not true. The non russian part of OMG can field 15-20 people, the russian part can field 25-35(+). Talon and friends seems to be able to field upwards of 40(+). God knows about the other corps and alliances but this alone is already enough ACTIVE pilots to far far exceed the activity levels of the combined gallente militia in all timezones.

Gallente seem to outnumber caldari since all corps tend to fly together to achieve larger goals.

Fact is that if caldari did the same, the impression that gallente has more active pilots would be as much a running joke as the broken caldari militia.
Garan Nardieu
Super Serious Fight Club
#80 - 2013-10-17 10:05:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Garan Nardieu
Rovain Sess wrote:
This thread is so full of what ifs and ifs. Now that TEST is in, lets see what happens. But just to continue the thread of endless possibilities:

What if Test don't fracture?
What if Test can provide a backbone for larger operational doctrines?
What if they can bring their weight of overall numbers to a system near you?
What if a majority of Calmil fractionalism can be put on hold?

Then the lillypad kingdoms will catch on fire, and tier dominance will burn away. If nothing else well all have more even good fights.
I'm selfish tho, I'd like to see a different status quo in the longest war.


Quite honestly - who cares what happens or doesn't happen with Test. I certainly don't. As long as there are some good fights to be had and things are dynamic, I'm pretty sure people in Galmil will be happy. Your 'lillypad' kingdoms and 'tier dominance' I can only smile at, since two things which have been dominant characteristics of Galmil during my (kinda) short time here have been very little concern for sov (aside from home systems) and reluctance to push tiers beyond T3 (we could have had T4, probably even 5 on several occasion if we wanted to have them).
Furthermore, there are very few bitter RPs in Galmil, something that can hardly be said of Calmil, which further separates us apart. I have no doubt that test numbers will be a major pita for us to handle, we might dip into very deep T1, you might kick us out of some of the home systems even, but we've been through tough times before and - unlike 90% of ex calmil corps, we're still here. Once the ashes settle, guess who will be there, rising from them?