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Lucius Exitius
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Collective
#1 - 2013-10-10 20:46:45 UTC
Why did they change the Nighthawk to a drake model? What is the reasoning behind this, it was one of my favorite ships in the game :( also after just releasing a navy version of the drake why make another ship with that hull? I would have rather seen a completely new hull then a rehash of the drake. I'm sure I am not the first one to bring this up but its a sad day...


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Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#2 - 2013-10-10 21:18:32 UTC
combat CS gets combat BC model.
it's a no brainer that they should have done years ago.

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Batelle
Federal Navy Academy
#3 - 2013-10-10 21:35:49 UTC
Jack Miton wrote:
combat CS gets combat BC model.
it's a no brainer that they should have done years ago.



all CS are combat CS now.

Missile ships get missile model, drone ship gets drone model, gun ship gets gun model.

Not rocket surgery.

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Donbe Scurred
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2013-10-10 21:50:59 UTC
Batelle wrote:
Not rocket surgery.


So it's brain science then?Lol
FlinchingNinja Kishunuba
Crunchy Crunchy
#5 - 2013-10-10 21:58:50 UTC
Nighthawk ferox with hm2s is hot. Drake is a bent poptart.
Lucius Exitius
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Collective
#6 - 2013-10-10 22:00:05 UTC
Jack Miton wrote:
combat CS gets combat BC model.
it's a no brainer that they should have done years ago.


My point is that it has been this way, why change the model, sure maybe it should have been but its not and now we have 3 ships with the same hull. Though I guess that means the Vulture is going to stay a Ferox hull then?
TigerXtrm
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#7 - 2013-10-10 22:07:10 UTC
I don't really get it either? What was wrong with the Ferox model and why does the Drake model 'make more sense as a command ship'?

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Mekkimaru
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2013-10-10 22:53:22 UTC
TigerXtrm wrote:
I don't really get it either? What was wrong with the Ferox model and why does the Drake model 'make more sense as a command ship'?



literally this

Jack Miton wrote:
combat CS gets combat BC model.
it's a no brainer that they should have done years ago.


think of the Eos , its getting the myrm model, not the brutix one, since, you know, drone links/etc

makes more sense on a myrm than on a brutix

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Xercodo
Cruor Angelicus
#9 - 2013-10-11 00:23:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Xercodo
The command ships were created before the tier 2 hulls were.

The prophecy was a tanky gun boat with no damage bonuses. The Harby became a gun boat all about damage.
The brutix was a glass cannon gun boat. The Myrm became a drone boat with epic tank.
The ferox was a rail boat. The drake became the missile boat.
The cyclone was one of those weird mixes of everything, missiles, guns, drones. The hurricane became a well defined gun boat.

Some of these have changed slightly over the years, but it's clear that these newer hulls were well suited to match with the two styles of command ship each race had.

And really, did we need 4 Brutix hulls with only 1 myrm?

Now it's 3 and 2 :P

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ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#10 - 2013-10-11 01:11:41 UTC
Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
#11 - 2013-10-11 03:21:27 UTC

So just so I understand, let me sum this up...

Boy I love all the new things we are getting, but why oh why did you change the appearance of one of my internet spaceships?

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Lucius Exitius
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Collective
#12 - 2013-10-14 16:27:07 UTC
Erotica 1 wrote:

So just so I understand, let me sum this up...

Boy I love all the new things we are getting, but why oh why did you change the appearance of one of my internet spaceships?


Yes. It would be one thing if they changed it slightly or updated its look, its another thing to change it too a completely different model. Since we have zero visual customization over the ships we fly changing the way it looks is a big deal, especially someone who put a lot of real time training into flying that ship.
Bernie Nator
Seal Club Six
Plug N Play
#13 - 2013-10-14 16:48:46 UTC
Now my tech 2 drake actually looks like a tech 2 drake.
Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#14 - 2013-10-14 16:50:45 UTC
To further cement the Vulture's rightful place as most badarse-looking ship in the galaxy
Lipbite
Express Hauler
#15 - 2013-10-14 18:42:57 UTC
Also Absolution is simply destroyed in Rubicon.
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#16 - 2013-10-14 18:48:05 UTC
They will likely be changed again as CCP starts their initiative to make specialized hulls look more specialized... more than just changing the paint job.

That's going to take quite some time though, and will also likely involved some more experiments with moveable hull geometry, at least in some cases.

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Tikitina
Doomheim
#17 - 2013-10-14 18:48:24 UTC
Players have been asking for this change since the Tier 2 BCs have been added.
It's only now that CCP has gotten around to addressing that request.

Sure roles have changed since the original requests, but that is the nature of things.
Lucius Exitius
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Collective
#18 - 2013-10-14 19:16:46 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:
They will likely be changed again as CCP starts their initiative to make specialized hulls look more specialized... more than just changing the paint job.

That's going to take quite some time though, and will also likely involved some more experiments with moveable hull geometry, at least in some cases.


Why even bother with changing the hulls if they are going to make unique hulls for them later on? Seems like a waste of time too me.
SpoonRECKLESS
Beach Boys
The Minions.
#19 - 2013-10-14 19:22:54 UTC
Why didn't they just make a new hull for it. I mean I'm ok with it but it seems a little cheap. They had a chance to make some really cool new hull models then again maybe they saving those for later on new ships coming out.

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Alice Saki
Nocturnal Romance
Cynosural Field Theory.
#20 - 2013-10-14 19:25:50 UTC
Drake suits Missiles, Ferox is just some sorta ugly Brick like thing xD

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