Intergalactic Summit

You know nothing of being Amarr if you abandon our traditions, you need to study our recorded undisputed history, that proven path from the past has led us, God's Chosen People, to dominance in New Eden. Look to our past with and open heart, clear mind, and a humble but burning unquenchable desire for the truth, then you to will see the enormous sinful error that has engulfed God's Chosen People.

It was a time when we were not led by an Emperor sitting on our ancient Imperial throne, during our time of fear an instability a devious blasphemer with a mysterious wonder weapon that delivered us from the wrath of freed slaves crawled in to squat upon our Imperial throne, and the weak, and the frightened embraced the Sarum capsuleer despite the fact she committed ritual suicide when Emperor Doriam ascended to the Imperial throne. She was an heir that failed in her attempt to be selected Empress, Doriam was selected, how according to our traditions is this person alive?

King Khanid also chose to not follow our tradition but at least had the courage of his own convictions to break away from Amarr and carve out his own kingdom without becoming a capsuleer, a rebel yes, but one who might be returned to the flock because he maintained his sacred flesh. I am a capsuleer unfit to meet the requirement of sacred flesh to sit on our Imperial throne, the same as Jamyl.

Would any of you accept her wholly unorthodox path to the Imperial throne absent her wonder weapon that stopped but did not reverse the loses of the “Elder War”? Without the Minmatar throughly routing the Imperial Navy and threatening our very way of life whom amongst us would not have been demanding that this “living” failed candidate for the Imperial throne be thrown into a cleansing pit for all time?

She owed a debt to the Minmatar for creating her path to the throne with their attacks upon our Empire, she has never again used her wonder weapon to enforce the reclaiming she promised us, instead she rewarded those same Minmatar invaders by forcing us to relinquish more slaves to the Minmatar Republic. Was this the foul deal she negotiated with them, attack us then retreat, then when I am on the throne I'll give you everything and everyone you want, emancipation!

Why has the wonder weapon of this Sarum capsuleer not been used against the Minmatar Republic? Why does she not wield it against those who oppose the will of God in New Eden? Does it even exist? Was it just a part of the sinful hoax she duped the Amarrian people with? Open your eyes before this abomination destroys the Holy Amarr Empire.

Lord Admiral Lok'ri is a busy man, far too busy to explain basic school lessons that you should already know.

Given that burning away evil and eternal damnation for those who turn away from God are extremely common concepts that are some of the oldest elements of the Amarrian faith, I find it quite strange that you could claim to have never come across them. They appear in some of the most commonly known and quoted bits of scriptures; I had thought every schoolchild in Amarr was aware of them.

Either the Ammatar education system was in a great deal more trouble than I realized, or you are consciously baiting the Admiral with a statement you know is nonsense. Either way, I see no reason to forward your question to his attention.

Maybe you should review your Amarrian theology more closely then, instead of accusing others not to be knowledgeable on basic school lessons. I am not going to do a prejudice and think that because you are a PIE servant, that your beliefs are completely nonsensical, but what you show here does not really help in that way either.

Eternal damnation and burning evil, commonly referred by the concept of hell, has never been part of Amarrian scriptures and theological matters. Hell is a heathen concept that is commonly used as slang by most people to designate the worst place to live in at a given time. In Amarrian theology, there is indeed only Heaven. Being barred from entering Heaven does not mean ending up in some hellish place.

I am fairly certain that the good admiral shares the same beliefs on the matter, like most Amarrians do.

I am not really willing to play a silly game of social ladder and who has the most prominent place in the society with you, but if that is really what you want, do not be surprised to lose at that game.

No matter how you twist its meaning, eternal damnation is still pretty much similar to many concepts of hell. Maybe I should not have mentioned the word in the first place, but all of this is merely a travesty.

Amarr Askura only mentions abandonment (forsaken), not eternal damnation.

Whether I hold the common "miracle" belief or not is nothing I commented on and is my private matter: My point is that it is really largely inconsequential for the question if the Empress or anyone else accepts the doctrine of sacred flesh, whether one subscribes to the belief that the Empress has been cloned or brought back to life by a miracle.

You argue like one of the Theology Council’s most foul myrmidons. The matter of cloning and the sanctitude of royal flesh are fiercely intertwined. Your separation is nothing but obscurant, artificial corruption. And even if we follow your twisted logic and that of the succession trials—which are nothing but an unwanted innovation in Amarr history: The idea behind Shathol'Syn is the permanent death of the heir—not his return—to prevent civil war and schism. Although this practice is primitive, man-made, and without precedence in the Empire’s history before the Theology Council started to corrupt its foundations, I find it appalling how fast each and every concept can be changed according to their whims.

But you are not really interested in questions of theology or serving the Lord, are you? You are interested in serving those in power. Regardless of how wrong and astray they might be. Regardless if they usurp it or rightfully own it. Be reminded: “To know the true path, but yet, to never follow it. That is possibly the gravest sin”

While slanderous rumours that His Majesty has cloned himself are just malicious rumours, it is an established fact that Jamyl Sarum had herself cloned, abandoned the Doctrine of Sacred Flesh, and despite this became Empress.

I pray for you,
Odelya d'Hanguest

Take heed that your denial of Hell be not a license to sin, lest you find yourself assigned there at the Judgement.

But of course there is a Hell, and of course many Amarrians believe it exists. We have ship classes named Damnation and Abaddon; are these words just jibberish or heretical doctrine?

Or consider the case of Amarrian researcher Fajah Ateshi, who according to the reports of the Empyreans who rescued her came to believe in Hell after hearing the voices of her former assistants.

[Never mind]