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So it's official, i never though I would go back at paying to play eve
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Florestan Bronstein
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#21 - 2011-11-16 11:07:44 UTC
Jaroslav Unwanted wrote:
incursions yeah yeah, never done them, heard there are good ISK in it, however what i get the isk coming from LP change and currently faction things are near as cheap as T1 so not an great income afterwards. You can actually have two navy thrones for one PLEX which is sick. And the concord named cap modules nobody wants anymore since everybody gets them and gets the spare.

the issue is not how much ISK you make but how much ISK enters/leaves the system.

LP stores are an ISK sink.
Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#22 - 2011-11-16 11:11:01 UTC
Florestan Bronstein wrote:
Jaroslav Unwanted wrote:
incursions yeah yeah, never done them, heard there are good ISK in it, however what i get the isk coming from LP change and currently faction things are near as cheap as T1 so not an great income afterwards. You can actually have two navy thrones for one PLEX which is sick. And the concord named cap modules nobody wants anymore since everybody gets them and gets the spare.

the issue is not how much ISK you make but how much ISK enters/leaves the system.

LP stores are an ISK sink.


I think i understand that.

I just wanted to point out that the price of PLEX got actually nothing to do with that. Because if it did than every player made "object" would raise.
Sephira Galamore
Inner Beard Society
Kvitravn.
#23 - 2011-11-16 12:21:53 UTC
Jita Alt666 wrote:
Goons caused the big bang.

Which has made a lot of people very angry and I still think it was a bad move.
Keen Fallsword
Skyway Patrol
#24 - 2011-11-16 12:37:48 UTC
Its good plex was the worst what happen in this game ! ******* alts ...
Xyrcaryn
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#25 - 2011-11-16 12:38:05 UTC
Ban people paying with PLEX for years(like OP), this should solve the PLEX deficit and probably botting tooRoll
Tanya Powers
Doomheim
#26 - 2011-11-16 12:39:10 UTC
rodyas wrote:
Oh no someone has caught on to the dark and destructive underbelly the jita protests brought. I also heard that big market players plan on buying up all the new T3 BC at launch so players cant fly them for months, players hate it and start unsubscribing.

CCP: -2 then

Special council of anti ccp and aurum: +2



I'll sell them about 100M piece, hope those guys are rich Lol
Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#27 - 2011-11-16 12:40:36 UTC
Xyrcaryn wrote:
Ban people paying with PLEX for years(like OP), this should solve the PLEX deficit and probably botting tooRoll


thats actually interesting tin-foilery there....

If the PLEXes rise beyond the point of botting army survivability / cost effectivness then...

However sometimes even good cause doesnt go well with collateral damage caused.

It would be great without bots "maybe, since i dont care really" however only few thousands of active people will eventually remain.
Keen Fallsword
Skyway Patrol
#28 - 2011-11-16 12:41:30 UTC
Useful Alt wrote:
Before the end of the week, I will have renewed my sub with my credit card.

I was paying with plex / gtc for the last what? 4 or 5 years? I don't really remember.

people that manipulate plex / gtc price won, at least this is what I think

I will take the 131$ special for a year.

people that manipulate the price don't want ccp to get the 200$ for 13 plex or whatever it is.

so ccp will lose 69$ from me.

someone won, someone lost

i'm between the two.


Soon your sugar-daddies will all be gone
You wake up some cold day and find you're alone
You'll call for me but I'm gonna tell you bye, bye, bye
When I turn around and walk away you'll cry, cry, cry
Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#29 - 2011-11-16 12:42:12 UTC
Keen Fallsword wrote:
Useful Alt wrote:
Before the end of the week, I will have renewed my sub with my credit card.

I was paying with plex / gtc for the last what? 4 or 5 years? I don't really remember.

people that manipulate plex / gtc price won, at least this is what I think

I will take the 131$ special for a year.

people that manipulate the price don't want ccp to get the 200$ for 13 plex or whatever it is.

so ccp will lose 69$ from me.

someone won, someone lost

i'm between the two.


Soon your sugar-daddies will all be gone
You wake up some cold day and find you're alone
You'll call for me but I'm gonna tell you bye, bye, bye
When I turn around and walk away you'll cry, cry, cry


And this is relevant how ?
Useful Alt
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#30 - 2011-11-16 22:45:09 UTC
And it's done.
Chelone
Outside The Asylum
#31 - 2011-11-16 22:59:36 UTC
Kietay Ayari wrote:
Hey everyone! Do you want to spend 3-4 days grinding ISK to play the game? :D or do you want to work one extra hour one day and have a sub + 500m ISK for yourself to buy all the pretty Feroxes you want? Easy peasy choice!


So you make $27 an hour? That's nice, most people don't.
Arya Greywolf
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#32 - 2011-11-17 04:39:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Arya Greywolf
Useful Alt wrote:
Before the end of the week, I will have renewed my sub with my credit card.

I was paying with plex / gtc for the last what? 4 or 5 years? I don't really remember.

people that manipulate plex / gtc price won, at least this is what I think

I will take the 131$ special for a year.

people that manipulate the price don't want ccp to get the 200$ for 13 plex or whatever it is.

so ccp will lose 69$ from me.

someone won, someone lost

i'm between the two.


Useful alt is useful.

Anyway, I think you've actually done yourself a favor. Instead of grinding ISK to pay for your PLEX, now you can be spend that time actually doing things you enjoy in the game... Like actually, well, I dunno - PLAY?

Right off the bat $131 seems like a lot but it's not - especially if you're committing a good portion of time to playing EVE. It's your entertainment. How much do you spend on a couple beers + food during a night out with friends? Add that up over a year; it's a lot. Obviously, those with ludicrous amounts of ISK will always pay with PLEX. Otherwise, I'd HANDS DOWN rather pay to subscribe than grinding to then be able to play a game that I consider FUN.
Holy One
Privat Party
#33 - 2011-11-17 04:44:13 UTC
Useful Alt wrote:
Before the end of the week, I will have renewed my sub with my credit card..


We need quantitative easing bro! No wait ..
Anyway yeah, I have so far not felt an overpowering urge to reach for the plastic.
Once the isk runs out, I'll be joining the 'see what they do, not what they say' crowd. Altho ccp could release an amazing patch and I'd still be 'out' of the mindset and probably not resub.

:)
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#34 - 2011-11-17 05:13:58 UTC
Trolls are not exactly able to communicate to a kitsune so well.

Dust 514's CPM 1 Iron Wolf Saber Eve mail me about Dust 514 issues.
Ai Shun
#35 - 2011-11-17 08:35:26 UTC
Chelone wrote:
So you make $27 an hour? That's nice, most people don't.


I can sell Nit Shampoo at a volume discount in Jita if you'd like to negotiate a bulk deal. That is if you want to stop picking them.

So for somebody only earning double the minimum wage it's a couple of hours of work to afford a PLEX + subscription. Spending $50 a month on a hobby that provides how many hours of entertainment? What about a $100?

The cost/benefit ratio is just too extreme to even compute. And if you can't afford it; or you're unwilling to pay for it - well - go without. It's not like it's a life-saving medical treatment or food on the table. It's a video game and some virtual currency.
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