Player Features and Ideas Discussion

No tl;dnr option. Sorry.



I didn't tweak your context. But it's not relevant or helpful to the conversation, so I'll leave it at that.




^This is what I want to respond on.



Looking at what we've been discussing so far, we have two very different, very useful, very independent ideas. So why not both? OFC with provision that carriers can only do one or the other at a time, not both.


I've stuck some names on each idea just so I can organize them a bit better. Names are certainly free to change.

First, the mooring approach:





Now, the Pod approach:




Naturally, the two proposed skills would be expensive and long trains, much like the capital ship skills themselves. I personally like 6 ships for each carrier in mooring a bit more, but it doesn't line up with the Eve skill system as well. 6 ships per carrier by 2 carriers is a full squad, a squad commander, and a scout, everything you need to roam, where 5 is 10 ships, basically agitating my OCD on what a full roaming squad should be in line with Eve fleet/PVP mechanics, given that scouts are usually neutral alts. The 10 ships for the Pod approach is in line with the max fighters a carrier can Deploy without drone control units, which I think is important in relation to the potential Fighter stuff from Fanfest.

The Passenger hold would effectively be like a fitting window, slots which can be occupied by pods, but the carrier pilot can only interact with them the same way they could with the local chat window, or boot them from their ship. Nothing else. The pushing this to an 'in space only' option prevents ownership issues in stations, and the allowing pods in only a new Passenger Hold which the Carrier has only 2 real options with(open or close it) stops the carrier from moving people around, anything which could cause an ownership clash(though I still think it is something that can be resolved, not just avoided.) The Passenger hold could be scannable, so yes you could in theory get carrier 'fits' that show pods. Not sure if ships in ship maintenance bays show up on scanned ships.


The 2 minute timer prevents afk'ing in a carrier, and the carriers ability to boot people stop it from being trolled by people docking and not leaving. The 5 second penalty on the mooring option makes this option different from Titan Bridging which is effectively instant combats, adding another layer of depth when choosing how to travel, where the necessity to eject pods once landed adds another vulnerable moment for that option as well, even if they are right on station. They will still have a small session change when they undock from the carrier.

Within these options are options for other skills as well, such as one that would reduce fuel expense penalty by 5% per level or increase 'holding' time by 10% per level, or an increase in mooring line range or total transferable mass(if there should be a limit on how much mass a carrier can jump with while moored.)

The two built in limitations to these systems allow the BLops and Titan Bridges to have their own unique advantages while maintaining their own potential niches within the bridge/jump community. Further development of this idea could, as previously stated, lead to alot of very interesting interactions with DUST and Eve, and possibly also a 'bus' system in Eve, with effectively bus stations where one can dock a pod, contract themselves from x->y and an orca or w/e could enter interaction range, pick up contract, and deliver it, while never docking and keeping Pod in it's Passenger Hold. OFC, there are risks to this, and it's hilarious to think about.

Open to thoughts!

Not relevant to thread subject matter, though I too would like a dark green, Serpentis carrier. That would be cool. Ship bay on carriers is also not a problem.

You misunderstand.

I did not mean to accuse you of tweaking. That illustrates another example of the difficulties I sometimes have with this.
I meant due to the differences in the way I think, my context as presented was not received by yourself and others in the light I meant it to be.


Honestly, I think carriers should be able to store ships internally, with pilots plugged in.

That said, the devs said the EVE engine cannot deal with this. If this is changed, that is great.

My idea is formed around side stepping this obstacle, in what I hope is a manner most like what would make sense to the continuity of the game.

Before we can build with certainty, we must know the foundation's limits. I am running on the belief that these have not changed yet.

This would be just massive. +1

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Who should I give all my isk to to make this happen? :D

+1

I had this idea a long time ago myself and i really like the idea.

But its making traveling through lowsec and 0.0 much safer.

Bubblecampers will have much less victims.

still +1 : )