EVE General Discussion

I have no idea who "Mitten" is .. and as has been stated, you should be very careful about tagging anyone to any other name other that the one you can clearly see.
I have made no attempt at hiding my in-game identity.. or even that of my main character for that matter.



I have openly expressed my opinion in GD .. ON TOPIC of "minerbumping" which was originally posted by "Danial Boone" in an effort to let him and others like minded know that I also find it unacceptable to be subjected to extortion by the "Order" and that I do intend to "Bump Back" (you really aught to learn to read you know) .

So where is the Whining here? Isn't my post in the very least testament to trying to do something productive?
Zsaryna your opinion which (however clouded I may believe it to be) is I'm sure a valid opinion for yourself and one that I would engage in contesting but would not attempt to belittle, but you are more inclined not to engage but rather miss-quote, dismiss, disregard and on top of it all choose to be rude in reply. I wonder why this is...

"Code enforcement is an enjoyable experience" Sound familar?

I guess hitting a nerve too close to home causes you to be provoked into an auto-response?
Anyway.. I would very much like to hear from capsuleers who have any ideas on how to counter/combat the Order and it's operations. If unable to reply in thread would be happy to hear in Eve-mail.

On a PRODUCTIVE note, if you want to respond, please try to do so in a manner that warrants a reply .. tks

That won't ever happen, honestly. It breaks the sandbox to outright bar people from traveling. Particularly because sometimes you flat out HAVE to go through highsec.

But the problem lies with you shifting the burden of self protection away from individual players. You have an assumption of due diligence to protect yourself. That includes warping out your pod, not getting scammed, and not flying with too much in your cargohold.

Violate that, and you, only you, are responsible for what happens.

Nothing you can say changes the fact that almost every pod lost in highsec is 100% the fault of person who lost it. If they lost a set of Slaves, or Crystals, or whatever, sucks to be them. Maybe they'll learn the lesson right for next time.

Due diligence. Have it.

therefore you visit your local friendly corrupt CONCORD office in lowsec, where you can also obtain the tags you need to fix your status. see how they thought this out?

not that your main is affected anyway.

furthermore, docking restrictions for sov space already exist in the game as you probably know. it's not mechanics breaking or even against the ethos of eve as far as i can see. what it is is politically untenable as suicide ganking is very popular and the forums would have a spasm if CCP 'nerfed' it.

You keep thinking that.

a bit more like how you can't take your cap into highsec or your supercap though any gate then?

it's not like there aren't restrictions already is my point. you can't say it would fundamentally break the mechanics of eve without knowledge of the code base whcih they apparently managed to significantly untangle for crime watch.

what do mean by 'break the sandbox'?

you could still do everything you could do before, with added consequences which you deal with as a player, making your own choices.

Do I want to gank 50 mackinaws or 3 pods before CONCORD locks the door?

Why does CONCORD allow serial killers to roam about its juristiction without silvering their plams?

you said youerself you might as well pod becxause it don;'t get worse than -10. murder is a bonus punch in highsec.

etc.

Except fly a ship into highsec.

You're taking choices away, not creating more of them. Don't try to disguise it.



Because they are not, for lack of a better word, cops. They were created to avoid a capsuleer civil war spilling into the 4 Empires. That's why you pay them to have an all out war with one another.

Us killing each other is not a crime according the 4 Empires. If we break their laws, their navies come after us. We also, are not serial killers. We exist apart from the citizens of the Empires(which is why, as a Minmatar, I can join the Amarr militia). We are the next best things to gods. They cannot tell us what we can and cannot do, only destroy us if they don't like it.

But, if you want to inject realism into it, then their response time needs to be lowered considerably. If they are supposed to be cops (which, btw, police are not preventative, they are punitive), then first they need to start showing up in about 20 minutes or so.

I'd ask you regardless to not pretend like this is real, or that any metric of real life crime and politics can be injected into it, because it simply cannot.

well i get the impression that high sec PvP is for nubs and i don't think i'm wrong.

but really it's all just tedious. like i'm having to warp two ships 30 jumps manually because some spacker will pod me if i afk to the staging post.

AFK = A Free Kill.

And I would disagree. I see highsec PvP as a perfectly legitimate and natural response to the risk aversion of a subset of players. Predators go where the prey are.

But the illusion of safety is the real problem here. All these hurts feelings stem from the false assumption that you are, or deserve to be, safe in highsec. You don't. People can gank you, and the intent is that people can wardec you too, although that option lacks teeth at present. But the intent is certainly not that highsec is or should be safe.

alright guys, i realise it's pointless discussing this on GD.

WDYHW.

i'm off to do some proper peeveepee. fly unsafely.