Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Fit a Maller with the same tank. It will have identical tank to the Maller.

we experimented with running c4s woth rr domis. depending on fitiing and stuff I wonder if rr stratios gang would work? looks pretty interesting.

Man have you already fought in a plex ?

What will happen is the following :
1. Warp in cloaked with 4 friends
1.5. Get decloak by the acceleration gate
2. Watch your ennemy warping out.
3. if no one inside then cloak and camp
4. flee the fleet coming to repel you.
5. repeat till bored

And you know, there's a window we call "local chat" which contain a lot of informations, like "hey, these guys are of the same corp".

As for the T3 cloaky cruisers, if they don't have the dps of the Stratios, they have 2 or 3 times the tank and the Proteus will get 75% of its dps. And again, most brawling cruisers have better ehp*dps ratio and kiting ones are so much faster you'll only catch those sleeping. And in a gang, you're not more threatening as a cloaky than a Falcon can be.

And finaly, if you don't know what you get from T2 covops or recon over these SoE ships, you just lack reading skills and should plan to put it in your skill plan.

Oh, so you will recloak, so that will be :
1. Go cloaked in the plex.
2. Uncloak.
3. Watch your target warpout as he is either waiting for someone and ready to react and have 7 or 8 second to do so or a stabbed farmer.

But if you actually managed to kill some farmer, I'd consider it a good thing, though I doubt you'll catch anyone awaiting for a fight unless he want to fight.

And the thing with local is the local spike of 4 dudes of the same corp. If people don't pay attention, they deserve to die and that's not the fault of the ennemy ship.

As for the covops and recon thing : recon have EWAR capabilities, and that make them extremely useful ; and covops have better bonuses than the Astero for probe and exploration.

So yes these ships will bring new things, but I doubt they will break anything, because cloaky T3 would have already done it in a bloodier way.

PS : sorry for sarcasm, they tend to come naturally sometimes. :& :-)

You are correct, mostly 1/10 2/10 and their unrated counterparts and data and relic sites in high, low, null.

Cruiser is for 3/10 all the way up to 6/10 and data/relic sites in high, low and null.

The Astero only has +5 virus strength. The +10 covops give you enables you to run nullsec exploration sites with T1 equipment, it's a complete waste of time with only 25 virus strength.

I feel like there are a lot of issues with these ships.

1. as a ship classified as "pirate" ship the bonus' dont reflect well against any other pirate ship in eve. might as well go get covert ops frigate for what I am assuming(for the current prices of pirate ships) will be in the billions for the first few days and then down to three times the value.

2. currently. you have a bonus that reflects a t1 cruiser. this is wrong. pirate class ships are supposed to be better then the rest. a covert ops frigate can attain a 100% scan probe strength at lvl 5.

3. energy turrets? as it stand pirate ships are already very unbalanced as it is. and secondly there are already 2 of the five that use energy weapons. I would rather have hybrids or missles for a hip like this.

4. not enough fire power or tank for a pirate ship. I understand the concept of a covert ops cloak on a t1 faction cruiser is out there. but. we have to look at the fact that these ships will be used as exploration ships and will be doing a lot of data/relic sites and as it stands the current minigame makes it pretty dificult to pay attention in the first place. not to mention a well fit tornado will alpha all of these.

IMO these new class of ships should be on the same level with t3 cruisers and the(not yet made) t3 frigate. just my thoughts though.

(cough) ... Battleship ... (cough)

Neither have been through the rebalance as of yet.

I suspect they will. Poor Mach...