Player Features and Ideas Discussion

You roll over fairly easily don't you? Since you're a push over. I'd like 1 tournament frigate from each of the past 4 alliance tournaments.

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Well I'm not fully satisfied with these changes but they are good. I still want the bonuses for remote sensor dampeners and tracking disruptors removed.

dammm I had to fight way more for you to give 5ms on the tempest :P

I think that is the point.
It's specialized. Meaning it does one or two things really well and by extension, is not very good at anything else.

So you *could* use a specialized ship solo, but it would only work in specialized cases.

If you want a ship that works in a variety of situations, you probably need a more general ship.

As to the EAFs, there's lots of people wanting tank, speed, dps and ewar, all at once. Well, you can't have everything at once without it being imbalanced.

I also think it would be useful to state the perceived problems along with the goals and improvements. It helps see what the fix is intended to fix.

I've tended to fly t1 ships over EAFs - primarily because of tiny lock range.
You need so many rigs and modules to fix that, the resulting ship is not enough of an improvement over (or in some cases it's worse than) the t1 version but still costs much more.
I think a small (smaller than the latest version) increase in ewar range is ok, but in most cases not needed.
More cap is good and the changes to speed and shield/armour/hull are relatively small and fine.

Enable them to lock things. See how that goes. If required, add some range to the ewar later.
Probably a better order than to add too much ewar range (breaking stuff, annoying people) and then taking some away again (annoying more people).

I'm a huge fan of the sentinel and fly the current iteration fairly effectively solo. However, I've always understood that it, as well as the other EAS have needed help as a class for a good while now. The sentinel pilot in me screams, Woo hoo, but the person that likes even remotely good fights, has to agree that new bonus to the sentinel is a little much.

My suggestion, keep the drones, it desperately needs that. It can use every little bit of tank it can get, so please don't change the little extra you gave it, however, dial back the neut bonus from 400% at EAS 5 to 300%, so a 60% per level bonus. There have been plenty of fights where 19km is far to short, but the ability to neut out to disruptor range is just that extra little oomph it needs to be competitive solo, and useful in larger fleet fights where 19km is too short. 31km with the current sisi changes is cool as hell, but I think 25km is more appropriate.

To explain why to give back the drone so quickly - I think looking at the Sentinel relative to the rest of the class it seems unfairly allocated for offense, and we didn't intend for the class to be self sufficient offensively. That said, if that drone feels make or break to the people using it in a small niche, I don't think it's having a very impact outside the niche and therefor don't see a need to remove it.

I think the debate about the Sentinel's power overall is much more centered on the neut range, as others have said, but I actually don't think it needs to be shorter range. Energy war is powerful of course, but it doesn't have the same kind of binary and pronounced impact that the rest of the EAFs can have with disruptors/webs/ECM.

i still think keres should be a better droneboat its not like it can fit rails or gets close enough for blasters and why should amarr get a better droneboat?
A creodron keres would be nice
you could always switch a high to a low and then maybe it could armour tank

Amarr e-war ships are typically drone ships, even the crucifier while only having 15mbps of bandwidth has a 45m3 drone bay, the Tristan has a 40m3 drone bay.
Gallente drone ships are combat ships not e-war ships.

i would hope the Arazu would become a droneboat blasters don't work on e-war ships

True, and I think it's easy to go down this reasoning path, but the fact of the matter is that the Sentinel uses its high slots for its neut ewar, so it makes some sense that its damage application would be shifted toward drones. Highs and mids are taken up with ewar stuff on a Sentinel.

On a Keres, though, the highs *can* be used for rail guns, so it's a fair balance. The buff to an additional drone is nice, although a complimentary drone bay buff to at least 15 (if not 20) should be in order. These boats don't have drone bonuses to hitpoints, and considering that drones are going to be the only things being shot when the target is under heavy damps, having the ability to launch one or two replacements when the others get inevitably destroyed would be nice. It's not even as if the Keres would offend the Amarr traditional flavor of 3x the drone bay, since the Sentinel would still have 60m3. 20 m3 bay on the Keres would round out the changes nicely.