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[Rubicon] Command Ship Models

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Axon Magnus
Tactical Stability Union
#501 - 2013-10-10 19:40:58 UTC
this is just awful , really really ccp , is that the best you can do , just slap on a texture and voila its a new type of ship , this is just disapointing let alone its also a downgrade i mean just look at the absolution its just looks amazing ,look at the ferox its just amazing too and you are just slapping a ******* drake model to it a shin pad not to mention the new absolution is a tampon worst of all a BLOODY RED TAMPON!!!!!!!! .

just why you have the resources to create something better , if you are feeling lazy just start the ship design competition like you did years ago , cause honestly we fell like we have been just raped . YOU HAVE THE FUNDS AND THE RESOURCES YOU CANT MAKE ANY EXCUSES WE WANT THE BEST NOT JUST A LOUSY SLAP JOB , DONT START A DECADE WITH A DISAPOINTMENT

IF YOU DONT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING JUST LEAVE THEM AS THEY WERE , THEY ARE SOOOOO MUCH BETTER THE WAY THEY ARE


WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#502 - 2013-10-10 20:06:13 UTC
Kane Fenris wrote:
Tenaris Zeratul wrote:
I know a lot of people don't like the changes, for example, the Sleipnir being a Cane now. I was thinking about this, and I was wondering if all command ship hulls made before Rubicon retain the classic look, and maybe get some sort of prefix/suffix (I.E. "Legacy Eos"/Eos Legacy Edition"), and all command ships built after Rubicon have the new looks.

This way, people who like the old hulls can still fly them, and those who like the new ones can fly those.



this is a nice idea i had another idea :

what it ships have the skin of the ship they are invented from (sleip beeing possibly invented from hurrocane or cyclone)etc....


but this wont happen because of the same reason: "It will be to confuseing esp for new players etc....."

Considering the number of people adamantly protesting the amount of work that went into this proposal as is, I'd imagine their heads would explode if CCP acted on the idea of creating effectively 2 different versions of the same ship.
Cassius Invictus
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#503 - 2013-10-10 20:32:53 UTC
Axon Magnus wrote:
not to mention the new absolution is a tampon worst of all a BLOODY RED TAMPON!!!!!!!! .


Damn. Now for sure I want be able to fly my Absolution... time to get back to my sexy laser Legion.
Anomaly One
Doomheim
#504 - 2013-10-11 01:21:31 UTC
they don't really look like "command" ships anymore..
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#505 - 2013-10-11 01:45:18 UTC
Anomaly One wrote:
they don't really look like "command" ships anymore..

How so? What in the current models looks more like a command ship than the new ones?
Dalilus
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#506 - 2013-10-11 02:31:12 UTC
The Sleipnir is now a Hurricane? Lol, too much Absinthe has been flowing at CCP......
Bear
SysteMGhosT
GREENSPACE
#507 - 2013-10-11 05:26:50 UTC
For all those years we've lived and died with them, now they are supposed to be replaced by this 3rd rate crap? Please don't CCP Cry
OTMOROSOK
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#508 - 2013-10-11 06:20:33 UTC  |  Edited by: OTMOROSOK
Someone has posted the good idea about the design competition. CCP why don't You do this?!

If You are really short of ideas about ship design why don't You tell the players: "You asked us for the new ships and we want new ships! Please send us 3d models of them (for example, in 3DS MAX format or VRML) and link rendered ship’s images in JPEG format in this thread of this forum. The winner gets a 10 years of EVE's free subscription, unique collectors ships (like in alliance tournament) and the main fiture: his nick would be placed in the description of that ship like: ‘Absolution is a command ship designed by famous Player Bill’."

Let the players see the ideas of the other players and choose the best one.
Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#509 - 2013-10-11 07:01:40 UTC
Rivr Luzade wrote:
Rivr Luzade wrote:
So, if these models really must be used...

Can we at least get rid of the following on the Harbinger model for both the Harbinger and the new Absolution?

Harbinger Front Flaws

Yes, I am well aware that the upper flaw comes from the fact that 3D artists only do 1 half of the actual model and than just mirror it, but can't the do a better job at assigning and smoothening the borders?

And what is this chiloschisis at the end of the pick for?


waiting for confirmation on theses issues.


Or do I really have to write a bug report for this?

Also: DeviantArt :: EVE Online - Create a Starship Contest. For those, who are interested.Blink

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My ridicule, heavy criticism and general pale outlook about your or CCP's ideas is nothing but an encouragement to prove me wrong. Give it a try.
alexi turov
Neutronium Alchemist's
#510 - 2013-10-11 08:20:05 UTC
Compared the the Prophecy, the Harbinger just isn't a good model. It looks like someone glued a beak onto the front of an Airfix aeroplane.

Also, why does it have drop-tanks under the wings?
Ozzymandias Duskwalker
Spartan Vanguard
#511 - 2013-10-11 08:41:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Ozzymandias Duskwalker
OTMOROSOK wrote:
Someone has posted the good idea about the design competition. CCP why don't You do this?!

If You are really short of ideas about ship design why don't You tell the players: "You asked us for the new ships and we want new ships! Please send us 3d models of them (for example, in 3DS MAX format or VRML) and link rendered ship’s images in JPEG format in this thread of this forum. The winner gets a 10 years of EVE's free subscription, unique collectors ships (like in alliance tournament) and the main fiture: his nick would be placed in the description of that ship like: ‘Absolution is a command ship designed by famous Player Bill’."

Let the players see the ideas of the other players and choose the best one.



This. You already did the same for the Oracle.

SSTC, flying moas before they were cool.

SSTC is now recruiting! we have lvl 5 mission fleets, incursion fleets, mining fleets, camping fleets, lolfleets, whyisthisguyfcing? fleets, 'zzZzZZzzzz' fleets (POS and POCO bashing) and exploration fleets!.
Dovhakiin
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#512 - 2013-10-11 11:37:41 UTC
I saw the new hulls on SiSi. But i can speack only for the Nighthawk and the Sleipnir.
Please NO., NO, NO, don´t do this.
No more Drake Hull.
No more Hurricane Hull.

I love this two ships, how they are now.
Or gives us new models.
Hadewijch
Red Herring Industries
#513 - 2013-10-11 12:26:06 UTC
The horror, the horror.

The Absolution looks plain terrible - a bloody red tampon indeed. At least invert the colours if nothing else, so much red looks ridiculous. Also, tone down the gold.
Sky Falcorr
Perkone
Caldari State
#514 - 2013-10-11 14:11:18 UTC
Dovhakiin wrote:

No more Drake Hull.
No more Hurricane Hull.


+1 on this.
and i also prefer Brutix hull instead of Myrm as well =\
Aglais
Ice-Storm
#515 - 2013-10-11 21:34:15 UTC
SysteMGhosT wrote:
For all those years we've lived and died with them, now they are supposed to be replaced by this 3rd rate crap? Please don't CCP Cry


Baawwwww.

Why don't you go support a cause that actually matters, like the fact that Marauders still won't really have a role in PvP, and are now so slow in literally everything that CCP has basically stealth buffed T3s for mission running. That, these failed stat changes to a ship class that as far as I can tell is dead in the water in all possible scenarios, is "being replaced by this 3rd rate crap". Literally. The Marauders, as they are now, are being replaced, such is the huge gulf in method of use compared to now.

The Drake hull isn't bad. You're just tired of seeing them because for a long time, HML drakes were one of the only viable things in PvP (which was due to a crux of stats and abilities- that and everything else being crap). I bet it'll be the exact same for the Hurricane hulled Sleipnir- though I DO think that it'd be very good for CCP to consider not having another space-camo Hurricane.


Also, I thought everyone had their cameras zoomed way out in the large fleet fights that command ships typically find themselves in, making all of this whining a moot point anyways.
Axon Magnus
Tactical Stability Union
#516 - 2013-10-11 23:18:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Axon Magnus
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Echo Mande
#517 - 2013-10-11 23:19:33 UTC
Are there any plans to alter the invention or manufacturing requirements for the remodeled command ships? If so I would imagine that builders would like some time to buy/research/copy new BPCs before Rubicon.

Wallet remarks everywhere
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#518 - 2013-10-11 23:24:27 UTC
Echo Mande wrote:
Are there any plans to alter the invention or manufacturing requirements for the remodeled command ships? If so I would imagine that builders would like some time to buy/research/copy new BPCs before Rubicon.

From the op wrote:
This change would affect the visuals of each of those four ships, as well as manufacturing and invention for them. For that reason I want to get it announced as early as possible.
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
#519 - 2013-10-11 23:26:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Alvatore DiMarco
Between the new SoE ships not being done yet, the new Golem not being done yet, the Marauders' Bastion Mode animations not all being done yet and all the other little things that the art department is working on like ISIS and the new character select, who exactly is supposed to make these new models? Every single one of you will howl like a wounded hyena if you don't get your SoE ships and your remodeled marauders with their full and complete bastion animations exactly on Nov 19th and you know it.

The CS models will get changed to proper T2 variants when they get to them. In the meantime, either apply to work in the art department or HTFU.

Aglais wrote:
Also, I thought everyone had their cameras zoomed way out in the large fleet fights that command ships typically find themselves in, making all of this whining a moot point anyways.
QFT.
Oraac Ensor
#520 - 2013-10-12 05:14:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Oraac Ensor
As I see it, the entire relationship between the BC and CS types is messed up.

For instance, the Prophecy hull is all curves and yet it has slots for missile launchers which, being angular and non-retracting, look horribly out of place on it. Same situation on the Damnation. On the other hand, launchers would look fine lined up on the Harbinger's weapon sponsons.

Swapping the high slot layouts of the two hulls would correct this situation and make the Prophecy hull the appropriate choice for the Absolution and the Harbinger hull right for the Damnation.

No doubt this would also mean tinkering with cpu and powergrid stats, which I'm sure would be way beyond the scope of what is intended.

In other words, this is a classic "Don't start from here" situation.