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More lvl4 SOE Agents for anyone who missed the news post

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Alli Ginthur
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#21 - 2013-10-10 16:36:28 UTC
Mia Restolo wrote:
My prediction: CCP, ever the master troll, is gonna make the ship BPCs drop from new random SOE ship wreck containers found in WH sleeper sites or something, and not an LP item. Twisted


As a denizen of W-space, I can only pray this prophecy does come true... so many new people to welcome into Bob's graces.. so many new wrecks to create! Please, please make this a thing CCP Blink
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2013-10-11 02:40:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Tyberius Franklin
Khoul Ay'd wrote:
Julius Priscus wrote:
promoting 2 agents in null sec aint gonna change a ******* thang!

its ccp's way of giving goons more ****. aka the surrounding area is gsf space in most parts


Umm, you're aware both locations are in high sec, right?

Apanake

Lanngisi


PS. nb4, waaaah! No lvl 4 combat agent in Gallente high sec space.

Since no one has done it yet I guess I will.

No lvl 4 security missions for Gallente high sec still?
CCP Affinity
C C P
C C P Alliance
#23 - 2013-10-11 09:33:10 UTC
Tyberius Franklin wrote:
Khoul Ay'd wrote:
Julius Priscus wrote:
promoting 2 agents in null sec aint gonna change a ******* thang!

its ccp's way of giving goons more ****. aka the surrounding area is gsf space in most parts


Umm, you're aware both locations are in high sec, right?

Apanake

Lanngisi


PS. nb4, waaaah! No lvl 4 combat agent in Gallente high sec space.

Since no one has done it yet I guess I will.

No lvl 4 security missions for Gallente high sec still?



I understand this seems a bit unfair but we tried our best to spread the agents out so none of the new ones are instantly the most popular, most obvious choice and it seemed a bit overkill to introduce/upgrade 3 more agents at this point.

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Carniflex
StarHunt
Mordus Angels
#24 - 2013-10-11 10:33:22 UTC
Tyberius Franklin wrote:
Khoul Ay'd wrote:
Julius Priscus wrote:
promoting 2 agents in null sec aint gonna change a ******* thang!

its ccp's way of giving goons more ****. aka the surrounding area is gsf space in most parts


Umm, you're aware both locations are in high sec, right?

Apanake

Lanngisi


PS. nb4, waaaah! No lvl 4 combat agent in Gallente high sec space.

Since no one has done it yet I guess I will.

No lvl 4 security missions for Gallente high sec still?



Gellente missionrunners can use the one in minmatar space as even if they have killed their standigs towards caldary/amarr with anti faction missions minmatars would still love them. While not as good as having your own sisters agent in gallente space somewhere it will be magnitudes better than having only one lev 4 combat agent for sisters in caldari space.

Here, sanity... niiiice sanity, come to daddy... okay, that's a good sanity... THWONK! GOT the bastard.

CCP Affinity
C C P
C C P Alliance
#25 - 2013-10-11 10:42:36 UTC
Carniflex wrote:
Tyberius Franklin wrote:
Khoul Ay'd wrote:
Julius Priscus wrote:
promoting 2 agents in null sec aint gonna change a ******* thang!

its ccp's way of giving goons more ****. aka the surrounding area is gsf space in most parts


Umm, you're aware both locations are in high sec, right?

Apanake

Lanngisi


PS. nb4, waaaah! No lvl 4 combat agent in Gallente high sec space.

Since no one has done it yet I guess I will.

No lvl 4 security missions for Gallente high sec still?



Gellente missionrunners can use the one in minmatar space as even if they have killed their standigs towards caldary/amarr with anti faction missions minmatars would still love them. While not as good as having your own sisters agent in gallente space somewhere it will be magnitudes better than having only one lev 4 combat agent for sisters in caldari space.


That's completely sensible, positive, and doesn't involve shooting anyone in the face. Are you sure you're an EVE player?

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Carniflex
StarHunt
Mordus Angels
#26 - 2013-10-11 10:58:41 UTC
CCP Affinity wrote:
Carniflex wrote:

Gellente missionrunners can use the one in minmatar space as even if they have killed their standigs towards caldary/amarr with anti faction missions minmatars would still love them. While not as good as having your own sisters agent in gallente space somewhere it will be magnitudes better than having only one lev 4 combat agent for sisters in caldari space.


That's completely sensible, positive, and doesn't involve shooting anyone in the face. Are you sure you're an EVE player?


Blink

I am still learning the ropes. But I do my best to be a true EVE player one day. I have heard it involves not logging into the game and having the right attitude in forums.

I think I'm almost getting the attitude right when I concentrate real hard but it's a lot harder to resist the urge to log in to see whats going on in space. Anyway I will need few more cups of coffee for my today session of right attitude.

Here, sanity... niiiice sanity, come to daddy... okay, that's a good sanity... THWONK! GOT the bastard.

Fango Mango
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2013-10-11 19:21:26 UTC
CCP Affinity wrote:
http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/world-news/sisters-of-eve-temporarily-promote-two-agents/


What was the logic behind moving these agents into a .5 system?

The LP advantage of a .2 system (Aeschee) over a .7 system (Osomon) was significant (approx 57% more LP in the .2 system)

The LP advantage of a .2 system over a .5 systems is only 33%


Before this change there was a large population of mission runners & hunters in the Aeschee area.
After this change most of the mission runners appear to have moved to the appropriate high sec system.


Was this an intentional effort to move people out of low sec into high sec or an oversight?


-FM
Jowen Datloran
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#28 - 2013-10-11 20:38:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Jowen Datloran
This Lanngisi location is the best; close to trade hub, two COSMOS constellations, the Gallente border, major travel routes and even Gicodel, the old major SoE hub.

Oh, and yes, the LP output is great too. Not too many peeps seem to have realized (yet), though.

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Kueyen
Angharradh's Aegis
#29 - 2013-10-11 20:54:00 UTC
Jowen Datloran wrote:
This Lanngisi location is the best; close to trade hub, two COSMOS constellations, the Gallente border, major travel routes and even Gicodel, the old major SoE hub.

Oh, and yes, the LP output is great too. Not too many peeps seems to have realized (yet), though.
The proximity of the Minmatar's secondary trade hub (Hek) to Lanngisi is a plus... the Genesis market cannot compare with that of a trade hub region.

But: Apanake is a little closer to Gicodel (10j vs 11), and a fair bit closer to Dodixie (7j vs 10). It is also only high-sec reachable via Gallente space. And to top it off, there's a Sisters of EVE storyline agent only 1j away in Sheroo. In my humble opinion, unless you've royally pissed of Her Imperiousness' administration, it's as close to a new Gicodel there is for us Gallenteans.

Until all are free...

Jowen Datloran
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#30 - 2013-10-11 21:35:52 UTC
Well, there is a Storyline agent within the station at Lanngisi too.

Anyhow, for me it is the proximity to COSMOS that attracts the most.

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Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#31 - 2013-10-12 08:16:04 UTC
CCP Affinity wrote:
Tyberius Franklin wrote:
Khoul Ay'd wrote:
Julius Priscus wrote:
promoting 2 agents in null sec aint gonna change a ******* thang!

its ccp's way of giving goons more ****. aka the surrounding area is gsf space in most parts


Umm, you're aware both locations are in high sec, right?

Apanake

Lanngisi


PS. nb4, waaaah! No lvl 4 combat agent in Gallente high sec space.

Since no one has done it yet I guess I will.

No lvl 4 security missions for Gallente high sec still?



I understand this seems a bit unfair but we tried our best to spread the agents out so none of the new ones are instantly the most popular, most obvious choice and it seemed a bit overkill to introduce/upgrade 3 more agents at this point.

Was just joking, someone brought it up so I wanted to play along. Already in Lanngisi and enjoying the newly promoted agent. Thanks.
Kueyen
Angharradh's Aegis
#32 - 2013-10-12 10:35:43 UTC
Jowen Datloran wrote:
Well, there is a Storyline agent within the station at Lanngisi too.

Anyhow, for me it is the proximity to COSMOS that attracts the most.
I checked ever other system in Ani constellation, but I forgot to check Lanngisi itself. I should've looked harder... Hm, maybe I should visit Bear

Until all are free...

Mhari Dson
Lazy Brothers Inc
#33 - 2013-10-12 17:07:52 UTC
Could've used one somewhere in amarr space, they're all quite far out if your playground is the Empress's back yard. Even a L3 combat would get good traffic from the locals.
Estella Osoka
Cranky Bitches Who PMS
#34 - 2013-10-13 19:59:08 UTC
But if you are pulling SoE missions in Aeschee you got 2x L4 security agents and a L3 distribution agent. So more LP per hour if you do it right and don't get caught. With all the gankers at these hubs, it's almost safer and worthwhile to actually run the agents in Aeshee.
IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#35 - 2013-10-13 21:43:42 UTC
There ware two level 4 SOE agents in highsec but when CCP did the agent changes one became a courier agent.
Kueyen
Angharradh's Aegis
#36 - 2013-10-13 23:20:29 UTC
Estella Osoka wrote:
But if you are pulling SoE missions in Aeschee you got 2x L4 security agents and a L3 distribution agent. So more LP per hour if you do it right and don't get caught. With all the gankers at these hubs, it's almost safer and worthwhile to actually run the agents in Aeshee.
Translation: "Please bring your blingy L4 ships into low-sec, so I can violence them indiscriminately."

Thanks, but I'll pass.

Also, flaunting a L3 distribution agent... *chuckles*

IIshira wrote:
There ware two level 4 SOE agents in highsec but when CCP did the agent changes one became a courier agent.
Indeed. Inesmir Jimud, our hearts still go out to you!

Until all are free...

IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#37 - 2013-10-13 23:30:46 UTC
Kueyen wrote:
Estella Osoka wrote:
But if you are pulling SoE missions in Aeschee you got 2x L4 security agents and a L3 distribution agent. So more LP per hour if you do it right and don't get caught. With all the gankers at these hubs, it's almost safer and worthwhile to actually run the agents in Aeshee.
Translation: "Please bring your blingy L4 ships into low-sec, so I can violence them indiscriminately."

Thanks, but I'll pass.

Also, flaunting a L3 distribution agent... *chuckles*

IIshira wrote:
There ware two level 4 SOE agents in highsec but when CCP did the agent changes one became a courier agent.
Indeed. Inesmir Jimud, our hearts still go out to you!


I would like to know how lowsec missions work. I guess if your corp was in system and it was all blues you could do them but I don't see how a random person could just warp in and run them. Even in something fast like a T3 you would still get pined down by a couple recons.

L3 security agents are good for lower skill pilots that simply take too long to do level 4s but that's about it. I'm not sure what a level 3 distribution agent would be good for unless to get standings to level 4. You can train a no skill alt into an Iteron Mk V in 33 min so skills aren't an issue to do level 4 distribution missions.

Xequecal
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#38 - 2013-10-14 01:22:10 UTC
Imagonem wrote:
There goes value of soe lp further down the drain. ack, the times of old when soe military agents were only in lowsec and null; taking effort and risk to hold and run.


We really don't need the Stratios to cost more than T3s do, which absolutely would be the case if all the agents were in low/nullsec. Remember the pirate faction ships can be acquired from plexes and exploration, the SoE ships have no such source.
Estella Osoka
Cranky Bitches Who PMS
#39 - 2013-10-14 18:22:24 UTC
IIshira wrote:
Kueyen wrote:
Estella Osoka wrote:
But if you are pulling SoE missions in Aeschee you got 2x L4 security agents and a L3 distribution agent. So more LP per hour if you do it right and don't get caught. With all the gankers at these hubs, it's almost safer and worthwhile to actually run the agents in Aeshee.
Translation: "Please bring your blingy L4 ships into low-sec, so I can violence them indiscriminately."

Thanks, but I'll pass.

Also, flaunting a L3 distribution agent... *chuckles*

IIshira wrote:
There ware two level 4 SOE agents in highsec but when CCP did the agent changes one became a courier agent.
Indeed. Inesmir Jimud, our hearts still go out to you!


I would like to know how lowsec missions work. I guess if your corp was in system and it was all blues you could do them but I don't see how a random person could just warp in and run them. Even in something fast like a T3 you would still get pined down by a couple recons.

L3 security agents are good for lower skill pilots that simply take too long to do level 4s but that's about it. I'm not sure what a level 3 distribution agent would be good for unless to get standings to level 4. You can train a no skill alt into an Iteron Mk V in 33 min so skills aren't an issue to do level 4 distribution missions.



Tips for missioning in lowsec:
- When missioning in lowsec you first want an insta-undock bookmark and an instant dock bookmark.
- Biggest problem you will have is getting caught on jumpgates, but a scout alt can help with that.
- Don't fly blingy.
- The L4 missions are not harder in lowsec, but do give better payouts.
- Battleships are viable in lowsec, but you want to use the MJD and use a snipe setup for missions instead of some of the traditional brawler/tanky fits.
- People still have to scan you down, so you need to watch D-scan. You should be doing this in hisec so you don't get ganked.
- Blitz the missions if you can, don't take missions that require too many jumps, don't take missions that take a long time to complete.

Anyone care to add anything else that I may have missed?
Estella Osoka
Cranky Bitches Who PMS
#40 - 2013-10-14 18:24:41 UTC
Kueyen wrote:
Estella Osoka wrote:
But if you are pulling SoE missions in Aeschee you got 2x L4 security agents and a L3 distribution agent. So more LP per hour if you do it right and don't get caught. With all the gankers at these hubs, it's almost safer and worthwhile to actually run the agents in Aeshee.
Translation: "Please bring your blingy L4 ships into low-sec, so I can violence them indiscriminately."

Thanks, but I'll pass.

Also, flaunting a L3 distribution agent... *chuckles*

IIshira wrote:
There ware two level 4 SOE agents in highsec but when CCP did the agent changes one became a courier agent.
Indeed. Inesmir Jimud, our hearts still go out to you!


Typical risk averse carebear attitude.
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