Intergalactic Summit

Admit it. There are people in the gutters of the Crystal Boulevard. People who are not so well off, who are not above begging and thievery. They may have once made a wrong decision or two at some point in their lives, or maybe they were born under those conditions. Whatever the case, today their chances of returning to a life of regularity, and all the comforts that come with it are as high as winning a Golden Magnate in a lottery.

I am not suggesting that if they come to take your jewelry, credit chips or the designer jacket, you should not act in self-defense. Protecting your belongings would be the only rational thing for anyone to do. But to slaughter these poor people like they were animals, with no regard to the humanity that still lies within their rugged and weary mortal shells, that is an act of unashamed class contempt.

Isn't it convenient to escape the consequences by claiming that the men who were murdered were somehow despicable, filthy and mentally inferior, like racists? Definitely not one of us, gallant, righteous and prosperous. Not a very new or original tactic to justify an action against the downtrodden. We have all seen this assertion over and over again.

The application of this reasoning to its logical conclusion would mean abandoning the rule of law, democracy and basic human rights. If you are of certain status, you can get away with anything, unless it violates the interests of someone with the same or higher status.

It's a shame to see how many capsuleers have already chosen to step on this path and are demanding the release of Kinhar Elokur. It is silly to even suggest that this man, capable of butchering three men in the blink of an eye, would have been "terrified" at any point. To fight one of them to death could have been indicental, but to hunt down and slay every one of them tells volumes about the motivations of the killer.

Before you demand that this murderer and member of the privileged class, University of Caille student Elokur should be given a free pass, I wish you also take a moment to think whether you also support everything that his release would imply.

I'm sorry but did you just call a minmatar living in the Federation, who was savagely atacked because of his ethnicity and is now unjustly imprisoned again because of ethnic gallente control of a corrupt justice system a "member of the priviledged class". I don't think those words mean what you think they mean.
If his "class" had power in the federation we wouldn't need to demand justice for him.

Well, you know, there is this other major sovereignty which has institutionalized even worse things than that, but I forgot the name...

Anyway, this is upholding the rule of law 101. It would be a sorry state of affairs if anyone could get away with anything saying "is it 'cause I'm Minmatar?". Even if it was self-defence, the circumstances still warrant an investigation. You can't just expect the Synchelleans to go "Ah, all three must have died mysteriously of heart attacks before you at the same time. You're free to go".

Sorry, that's not how it's done over here. Let the trial and investigation take place. The details provided are bare bones.

I'm sorry but this claim about the motivations of the attackers was made by the accused to defend himself. It's difficult to verify it now when all his victims now lie dead in the mortuary.


You are saying that anyone can just walk in one of the most exclusive and privileged universities in New Eden? I guess it's easy for you to say such things from the upper balconies of the ivory tower. Just go on and be dismissive towards everyone who didn't make it as far as you did.


So in your opinion, any copycat of Bloody Hands of Matari should not be help responsible if they go on a killing spree because this your preferred way to get "justice"?

Self defense, as this has been widely reported as in the media, shouldn't be a prosecutable offense, regardless of the state the alleged attackers ended up in. Mess with a bull, you get the horns.

I'm sorry, What? Elokur gets attacked by 3 Gallente Men and somehow this makes him into the Racist Aggressor? Like to try again with something that makes some Logical sense?

There is no doubt that Elokur killed the men. What the Prosecution will have to prove beyond reasonable doubt, is whether it was Murder.

Innocent until proven Guilty.

No, I agree with Gabriel Darkefyre. He is a suspect until a verdict is given. Saying so otherwise is pre-judicial. Even if everyone saw him brutally decapitate his assailants on live holo, then following up with an invocation of the Red God, he is still a suspect. That is the core of the Federation's justice systems. Absolute consistency with its procedures.

I agree that the Atlanins attack needs further investigation.

The advocates of Elokur's release were the first ones to claim he is not guilty. All I am saying is that he should be tried in court just like any other person who is suspected from a crime like this. His background should not play any role.

All the news releases talk about Elokur as someone involved in this incident. For all I know, he might not even exist, the editors could have just made up the stories to entertain the readership and it's clear that if we don't rely on the information provided by the media, the OP falls apart. The idea that it was his choice to go on and kill the two other men came from the news.

You can keep your neutrality, I do not approve what he did and I feel its my duty as a citizen to voice my concerns stand by the values I was raised to believe in.

What he is alleged to have done. He is by Federal law, innocent until proven beyond reasonable doubt guilty. It is quite simply not your place to judge.

For a citizen of the Federation, a nation that espouses virtues of freedom, equality and such; You're not doing a very good job of conveying this being the environment you were raised in.

By all means, mouth off all you like. I'm hardly a moderator of this illustrious message board, nor this thread. I'm just pointing out that you're making no friends here by 'demanding' things you are not entitled to by any right and by condemning a man who may well be innocent.

Were you a normal man and not a capsuleer, you can safely bet bottom dollar a libel lawyer would be all over you in a second for your remarks should the alleged murderer be found innocent. Lucky you're not, I guess.