Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Hello

I was thinking about the changes to marauders and was thinking why not do the same for exhumers? Have a mode where they can deploy in a belt with a 5-10 min period where their defense's are greatly enhanced and they are improved in some way. Each one could have a different quality and such a change would make them much more useful considering their inherent cost. For example there is very little reason to own a hulk when it only mines marginally better than a covetor but costs nearly 10x more for what really amounts to a slightly shinier ship.

Each ship could expand on their current roles so :

Skiff : 10% bonus to shield resistances or Shield Hit points per exhumer lvl 200k+ ehp
Mackinaw : 5% bonus to resists or hp & 5% bonus to mining yield or reduced cycle time per exhumer lvl 150k+ ehp
Hulk : 5% bonus to resists or hp & 10% bonus to mining yield per lvl per exhumer lvl 100k ehp

* Note these numbers are simply place holders and do not represent actual expectations.

Make the deployment time around 5-10 mins. Basically the concept would be to turn the T2 barges in to stationary targets for a duration of time that would increase their yield/efficiency but also make them great targets for roaming fleets. It would not only give people a reason to use them but to defend them since they could be used to increase the yield of large mining ops substantially.

As far as concept goes I believe that they role of mining barges is the ability to do something fairly easy while reaping minimal reward however for those who live in null sec you constantly have to be on alert so its not as passive an activity as people would sometimes hope. Think of them more as mobile platforms like the new ones being implemented. Yes they would become harder targets to kill and bring in a lot more minerals but it would give pvper's one more target to shoot at and make it much easier for them to catch than they already are. Also it would give miners a reason to group together since the extra ehp would make their drones much more deadly than they already are..... If these changes were implemented it would make deploying a rorqual in a belt rather than a tower more viable. Which is more along the lines of what the rorqual was expected to do. I honestly dont think they were orginially intended to be parted in control tower for nearly 100% of lifespan.

To put it simply make them too hard for 1-3 people to take down but easy enough for 4 or more to promote small gang warfare by giving them an objective to kill. Kinda like the idea of the targetably station services.

Can you hotdrop within the same system?

Posting in a stealth "gimme bump immune exhumer" thread. Or something.

Koreans are a myth, idea dismissed.

PS: There's nothing a million chinese guys can't do cheaper.

it's not a bother at all I just figured the concept would go well with the Idea that CCP has been throwing out there about giving small gangs targets to shoot. This concept being in the same range as station services and the new personal hangers.

As far as hot dropping goes you couldn't do it with cap's in systems that have a cyno jammer and it would give those in a constellation time to counter a covert cyno drop which should make pvp more interesting for all those involved since it could give those who were getting covert dropped a few additional moments to call in people for a fight instead of the usual jump in nuke target in less than 2 secs followed by everyone cloaking and warping to a safe spot. It would force them to remain on grid for 1-2 mins while a constellation defense fleet would have time to react. This would increase the connections between industrialists and pvpers since it's now viable for defending pvpers to go kill covert cyno drops on targets one or 2 jumps away instead of babysitting miners in a belts or in the same system or resorting to trying to bait a covert cyno fleet with something like a drake.

As far as high sec goes simply don't make it possible in the same way that capitals can't be deployed in high sec make it "illegal" to use the module in high sec out of concord's fear of it disrupting empire markets. There you now even have a npc rp model to validate why the module can't be used in high sec and one more reason for industrialist to migrate to null sec.

100k dps = 100 seconds vs 1000 dps.
Average ship, lets call it 333 DPS. So 12 of them = 4000 DPS.
To get the one minute you are talking about vs a gang of 10-15 these ships would therefore need 400,000 EHP.
Otherwise known as..... Not a chance.

Meh, I'm not so sure about this, at least as presented.

Make it scripted such that

1. All power to the shields. Gives boost to tank, but offlines the mining lasers
2. All power to mining. Gives boost to yield, but at severe reduction to tank, say 90% reduction in shield HP.

As with the OP, number is just a placeholder.

Not needed because belts and grav sites can already be warped to by anyone. At least make people use dscan to quickly figure out which belt the immobile exhumer is located at, its not like they can honestly shoot back.

1. Exhumers are already good with where they mine, I don't think a straight up increase of 20% is a good idea. Could get behind the 5%/level of Tactical Mining Reconfiguration though (edit: If and only if the module is scripted for mining yield). Perhaps also decrease cycle time, or increase cap usage of the strip miners as it's activated ... might give orcas/rorquals a use for that cap reduction ganglink...

2. People ACTIVE TANK Barges?!

3. I thought the that "module activation makes you immobile" was a given, though a "Here I am!" beacon is just bad. Also, moar fire coming out of the barges when deployed.


Though, thinking about it "Activating this module makes you immune to all incoming ewar" (no jams, etc ... but ALSO NO INCOMING RR).