Player Features and Ideas Discussion

There is a small discussion about it here: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=251860

I feel like the ship needs some help. It seems like it's lacking compared to every other ship. It's hard to find something that it isn't worse at than every other Battleship. Some new bonuses might be a way to boost the ship. Someone in this thread suggested giiving it a falloff bonus + 10% damage or 7.5% rof. A larger drone bay could be interesting too.

The tempest has always been something of a jack of all trades, master of none, but at least it had the speed to make up for it.

Nowadays it's simply mediocre.

Smaller sig radius could be nice too. It's 360 vs 330 of the Typhoon. Typhoon is very slightly vaster and more agile as well.

"tempest fleet issue does armor artillery pretty well"

I would argue that armor version does artillery as same as shield one..worse than maelstrom

If i want to truly utilize arty in armor mode to max il simply fit them on machariel.

In pvp il stay away from fleet pest as mediocre 500 mil wasted isk.

Armageddon is crap thats why, it used to be decent when it was an amarr ship, I miss those days...

His comment is VALID ..ccp ****** up the story between races..as in caldari + amarr vs minmatar + gallente ..now u got ******* geddons with gallente bonuses and **** or rattlesnakes who do the same **** even though guristas are against serpentis ..in case u missed it ..nightmare used to bet 4 launchers 4 lasers (caldari + amarr) now is the same but only combines the lasers from amarr + shield from caldari wich is ok but the new geddon combines neuts ( more like blood riders ) and drones ( gallente ) ..as for the tempest it self ..it doese 700 dps like a ******* hurricane this ship needs A LOT OF LOVE the 10% bonus to dmg and 7.5 to rof would prob make it op ..but at least it wouldnt be as bad as it is right now ..just give it 10% dmg 5% rof and is ok ..or boost dps /rof on autocannons themselfs

I can't remember the last time I saw anyone fly a tempest. I don't know many scenarios where it can outperform any other battleship in a certain area. I'm thinking maybe get rid of the damage bonus and raise RoF to 10% per level and add a falloff bonus between 5 - 7.5% per level, maybe lower sig and decrease mass. Otherwise, I don't see why I should fly a tempest over a maelstrom other than having an armored/utility AC platform, which again is outperformed in either dps/utility by other battleships.

With good skills TFI hits 40% harder than Maelstrom in any three gyro build and within 20% of the mach

Alot of the tempest's problems comes from the trouble with projectiles, this is a problem that was mentioned as early as 2009 in one of the "commonly mentioned ideas" thread. Right now I think buffing the t2 ammos of projectiles would help alot, but the hull needs some help too. I tried to argue for the sake of the tempest in the battleship rebalance but as mentioned, devs haven't mentioned a thing about the tempest since the initial changes.

Ships like the rifter and hurricane are facing similar problems, as I've tried to argue for in other threads. Since the problem exists over so many ships we can draw the conclusion that it lies in their weapons more than the hulls themselves.

Run that with 1400s.

That comment was in reference to alpha hits.