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Genolution Implant Set

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digitalwanderer
DW inc
#61 - 2011-11-16 17:26:17 UTC
With me already having +5's plugged in and steadily aproaching 170 million skill points, i don't really need them fr either their perception/ intel boosts or the extra bonuses to powergrid / CPU / Capacitor...Big smile
Archetype 66
Perkone
Caldari State
#62 - 2011-11-16 18:38:03 UTC
You don't need 170M SP to have all Fittings skills V, not at all. And then, it's still good to have this extra bonuses to powergrid / CPU / Capacitor...

I don't understand you're point, can you explain ?
Rod Blaine
Evolution
Northern Coalition.
#63 - 2011-11-16 18:46:17 UTC
I missed the last two christmas gifts, but this is no snowball launcher!

Tell me, what conclusion presents itself when one looks at all the free gifts en discounts CCP is throwing around all of a sudden?


digitalwanderer
DW inc
#64 - 2011-11-16 18:50:27 UTC
Archetype 66 wrote:
You don't need 170M SP to have all Fittings skills V, not at all. And then, it's still good to have this extra bonuses to powergrid / CPU / Capacitor...

I don't understand you're point, can you explain ?



I don't have any fitting difficulties with any setup that would justify the need to require that extra power grid / CPU / Capacitor in the first place?.....Though i can see it's use for newer players to make particular setups work since they might be a little short in one area or another.


Same goes for the atribute boost (+3), as i'm using +5's with this toon for tthe last several years straight, so these new implants are of no use there either for me, so unless i'm misunderstanding something here, i got no use for these anyhow....
Shawn Pierce
Live For This
#65 - 2011-11-16 19:10:57 UTC
Generals4 wrote:
Situation A: your account wasn't subscribed on the 29th => You can't get the gift
Situation B: Your account was subscribed (even if done through plex's) on the 29th but you couldn't login => you can still get your gift
Situation C: Your account was subscribed (even if done through plex's) and you could log in => obvious
Situation D: your account is a trial account on the 29th => you can't get it.

This is correct. You do not need to log into your account on that day to receive the gift. You just need an active paid account, PLEXed or otherwise, on that day.

The 50% bonus will likely be clarified before hitting Tranquility, so that it clearly states that it only affects the secondary (percentage) bonuses of the Core Augmentation set. It will not affect the bonuses provided by other sets.

It actually already states the second part in the description of the second implant. "Additionally, when combined the CA-1 and the CA-2 supplement each other, providing vast increases in their overall net effect."
mkint
#66 - 2011-11-16 19:13:26 UTC
digitalwanderer wrote:
Archetype 66 wrote:
You don't need 170M SP to have all Fittings skills V, not at all. And then, it's still good to have this extra bonuses to powergrid / CPU / Capacitor...

I don't understand you're point, can you explain ?



I don't have any fitting difficulties with any setup that would justify the need to require that extra power grid / CPU / Capacitor in the first place?.....Though i can see it's use for newer players to make particular setups work since they might be a little short in one area or another.


Same goes for the atribute boost (+3), as i'm using +5's with this toon for tthe last several years straight, so these new implants are of no use there either for me, so unless i'm misunderstanding something here, i got no use for these anyhow....

Most armor logi loadouts seem to need at least 1 ACR to even be able to fit for their bonuses.

That said, I always plan my loadouts to function assuming no implants. I probably won't be using these new implants myself unless that 50% bonus applies to attributes as well (i.e. they are 4.5 implants.)

Maxim 6. If violence wasn’t your last resort, you failed to resort to enough of it.

Slade Trillgon
Brutor Force Federated
#67 - 2011-11-16 19:30:48 UTC
digitalwanderer wrote:
so unless i'm misunderstanding something here, i got no use for these anyhow....


Well good for you Mr. Super SPecial DW. If they are as useless to you as you make them out, then go find a noob and hand them over and tell them to hold onto them for about a year and then sell them on contracts.


Slade

digitalwanderer
DW inc
#68 - 2011-11-16 19:40:49 UTC
Slade Trillgon wrote:
digitalwanderer wrote:
so unless i'm misunderstanding something here, i got no use for these anyhow....


Well good for you Mr. Super SPecial DW. If they are as useless to you as you make them out, then go find a noob and hand them over and tell them to hold onto them for about a year and then sell them on contracts.


Slade




Touchy aren't we?P.....It's not my fault that i've been playing the game for 8 1/2 years straight you know, just saying.
Slade Trillgon
Brutor Force Federated
#69 - 2011-11-16 19:48:40 UTC
digitalwanderer wrote:
Slade Trillgon wrote:
digitalwanderer wrote:
so unless i'm misunderstanding something here, i got no use for these anyhow....


Well good for you Mr. Super SPecial DW. If they are as useless to you as you make them out, then go find a noob and hand them over and tell them to hold onto them for about a year and then sell them on contracts.


Slade




Touchy aren't we?P.....It's not my fault that i've been playing the game for 8 1/2 years straight you know, just saying.


Not touchy at all. I was just targeting your statement of massive e-penn size and showing you alternative paths to your senseless searches for ego boosting posting opportunities.

P.S. If it is not your fault for playing the last 8.5 years then whose fault is it? P


Slade

digitalwanderer
DW inc
#70 - 2011-11-16 19:57:15 UTC
Slade Trillgon wrote:
digitalwanderer wrote:
Slade Trillgon wrote:
digitalwanderer wrote:
so unless i'm misunderstanding something here, i got no use for these anyhow....


Well good for you Mr. Super SPecial DW. If they are as useless to you as you make them out, then go find a noob and hand them over and tell them to hold onto them for about a year and then sell them on contracts.


Slade




Touchy aren't we?P.....It's not my fault that i've been playing the game for 8 1/2 years straight you know, just saying.


Not touchy at all. I was just targeting your statement of massive e-penn size and showing you alternative paths to your senseless searches for ego boosting posting opportunities.

P.S. If it is not your fault for playing the last 8.5 years then whose fault is it? P


Slade




I rarely post at all if you consider the amount of time i've been playing, so forum whore i'm not even close to it....You on the other hand i do see a lot of posting, so don't bullshit if you please....P
Slade Trillgon
Brutor Force Federated
#71 - 2011-11-16 20:05:08 UTC
digitalwanderer wrote:


I rarely post at all if you consider the amount of time i've been playing, so forum ***** i'm not even close to it....You on the other hand i do see a lot of posting, so don't bullshit if you please....P


Post count was never brought up by me, so try again.

You came to the thread bragging about your skill points and the worthlessness of mentioned gift. I pointed out your e-penn enlargement seeking post and gave you an option to make use of said useless gift.

So what is your point again, other then you not needing the implant and wanting everyone to know you have 170 million SP'sShockedArrow No big deal P

Fake edit: Thanks for noticing me Ugh


Slade
Morganta
The Greater Goon
#72 - 2011-11-16 20:27:16 UTC
Lord Ryan wrote:
When do you get CA-2?



and that is the 24,000 dollar question

I'l bet you get it in the place that starts with N and ends in X Roll
Morganta
The Greater Goon
#73 - 2011-11-16 20:29:16 UTC
Shawn Pierce wrote:
Generals4 wrote:
Situation A: your account wasn't subscribed on the 29th => You can't get the gift
Situation B: Your account was subscribed (even if done through plex's) on the 29th but you couldn't login => you can still get your gift
Situation C: Your account was subscribed (even if done through plex's) and you could log in => obvious
Situation D: your account is a trial account on the 29th => you can't get it.

This is correct. You do not need to log into your account on that day to receive the gift. You just need an active paid account, PLEXed or otherwise, on that day.

The 50% bonus will likely be clarified before hitting Tranquility, so that it clearly states that it only affects the secondary (percentage) bonuses of the Core Augmentation set. It will not affect the bonuses provided by other sets.

It actually already states the second part in the description of the second implant. "Additionally, when combined the CA-1 and the CA-2 supplement each other, providing vast increases in their overall net effect."


meh, the set bonus always applies to the full set and only the set its a part of, why would you need clarification on this?
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#74 - 2011-11-16 20:37:04 UTC
Perramas wrote:
I have a similar problem. I live in the ass end of Missouri where internet speeds are laughable at best. It takes a little over an hour for me to download 100mb of information with my crappy internet service. This patch is going to be quit hefty in size with the new nebulae and ship skins. As a result of my crappy internet and patch size I may spend the entire day downloading the patch.


Yeah, but if you're in the correct ass-end of Missouri, you have the dubious option of seeing Yakov Smirnoff live while you download it!

Folks, all other gifts have been redeemable for some time after patch day. Unless someone has magic evidence otherwise there's no reason to think this one is different.
digitalwanderer
DW inc
#75 - 2011-11-16 20:52:26 UTC
Slade Trillgon wrote:
digitalwanderer wrote:


I rarely post at all if you consider the amount of time i've been playing, so forum ***** i'm not even close to it....You on the other hand i do see a lot of posting, so don't bullshit if you please....P


Post count was never brought up by me, so try again.

You came to the thread bragging about your skill points and the worthlessness of mentioned gift. I pointed out your e-penn enlargement seeking post and gave you an option to make use of said useless gift.

So what is your point again, other then you not needing the implant and wanting everyone to know you have 170 million SP'sShockedArrow No big deal P

Fake edit: Thanks for noticing me Ugh


Slade



Ahem, your own words follow ...
Quote:
ego boosting posting opportunities.

CCP Loktofeit
C C P
C C P Alliance
#76 - 2011-11-17 19:31:49 UTC
Yeow!

Hey, wanted to pool all the questions together, including a couple I got through EVEMail. Here's what we've got...



Pelador Rova: What qualifies as an active subscription though, if I've plexed for an extended term into next year could I qualify, or does it mean a subscription package?

Anyone with an active, paid account in our system on the 29th will receive the item. The little gremlins inside our server just look for the paid flags on each account and they don't question how they got there. PLEX, PayPal, Credit Card, ETC, a crate of live chickens... our server gremlins don't judge.


Jowen Datloran: Hm, so I actually have to log in on the 29th to get the implant? Interesting.

Two things I learned from my early years of MMO gaming and they stick with me even now:


  1. "Trust me" is just another way of saying "stop stalling and let's get this murder over with"

  2. "Never play on patch day" is a golden rule.


Maybe one or both have changed over the years, but I like to err on the side of caution. No need to login in on patch day. As long as it's an active, paid account, you're all set.



Shadow Lord77: Do these implants last forever or do they get automatically destroyed after a set amount of time?

They function the same as existing implants. Get podded and they're gone.



Shadow Lord77: Does that 50% apply to the other attribute implants or just bonus-effect implants?

The 50% bonus applies only to the two implants of the set.



Shadow Lord77: Do they fit into the same slot?

The CA-1 goes in Slot 1. The CA-2 goes in Slot 4.



Shadow Lord77: When is the CA-2 one planned to be gifted?

We have not yet released the date that the CA-2 will be distributed but I am quite sure it will be the day after I get podded and lose my CA-1.



mkint: Ok, question nobody seems to have answered yet... when taken together are they each a +3 implant, or +4.5's?

Implant set bonuses do not affect the attribute boost. It will still be Perception/Intelligence +3.



EVEMail: Will this be a new implant for *all* characters on each account, or just the one actively training?

One per account. You can allocate it to the character of your choice on that account using Redeem Items feature.



EVEMail: Will this implant be automatically issued to new pilots, or will future (or additional, see above) pilots have to purchase them?

They will be distributed to all active accounts on November 29th.



EVEMail: Will it be issued unplugged, so that a pilot may choose to keep his +5 Snake, etc.?

It will be distributed through the Redeeming system. When claiming items through the Redeem Item system, the item is placed in the hangar of the station that selected character is docked at.


Any more questions, feel free to post them here and I'll get back with the answers.


- CCP Loktofeit

Brujo Loco
Brujeria Teologica
#77 - 2011-11-17 20:12:41 UTC
I'm I the only one aghast at the shocking blue travesty in the background colors chosen for the UI? Hideous I say ...

Inner Sayings of BrujoLoco: http://eve-files.com/sig/brujoloco

Sirinda
Ekchuah's Shrine Comporium
#78 - 2011-11-17 20:36:58 UTC
mkint wrote:
digitalwanderer wrote:
Archetype 66 wrote:
You don't need 170M SP to have all Fittings skills V, not at all. And then, it's still good to have this extra bonuses to powergrid / CPU / Capacitor...

I don't understand you're point, can you explain ?



I don't have any fitting difficulties with any setup that would justify the need to require that extra power grid / CPU / Capacitor in the first place?.....Though i can see it's use for newer players to make particular setups work since they might be a little short in one area or another.


Same goes for the atribute boost (+3), as i'm using +5's with this toon for tthe last several years straight, so these new implants are of no use there either for me, so unless i'm misunderstanding something here, i got no use for these anyhow....

Most armor logi loadouts seem to need at least 1 ACR to even be able to fit for their bonuses.

That said, I always plan my loadouts to function assuming no implants. I probably won't be using these new implants myself unless that 50% bonus applies to attributes as well (i.e. they are 4.5 implants.)



Not sure how the game handles it, but if you plug both implants in, wouldn't that mean you get n * 1.50 * 1.50 , since there are two implants with a 50% bonus each? If yes, that would make for more than 100% boosted stats in total, also potentially increasing the bonus to attributes above the so-far magic number of 5. Hell, in the end, it'd be 3 * 2.25 (6.75) , mathematically.
GavinCapacitor
CaeIum Incognitum
#79 - 2011-11-17 21:36:04 UTC
CCP Loktofeit wrote:


Shadow Lord77: When is the CA-2 one planned to be gifted?

We have not yet released the date that the CA-2 will be distributed but I am quite sure it will be the day after I get podded and lose my CA-1.


Does this mean the CA-2 will also be a one-time-only gift for sure?
CCP Loktofeit
C C P
C C P Alliance
#80 - 2011-11-17 21:45:42 UTC
GavinCapacitor wrote:
CCP Loktofeit wrote:


Shadow Lord77: When is the CA-2 one planned to be gifted?

We have not yet released the date that the CA-2 will be distributed but I am quite sure it will be the day after I get podded and lose my CA-1.


Does this mean the CA-2 will also be a one-time-only gift for sure?


Yes.