Player Features and Ideas Discussion

The new mission runner's best friend (tractor beam whatsit) could well crash some minerals prices.

removing drone alloys pretty much doubled the isk for minerals.

but u are right drones currently need either higher bounty then the other faction rats or have to drop normal meta stuff or have better salvage.

Amen Brother

Their unique reason for existing was the alloys. The great benefit was that you didn't need to mine out there. But you had to have people who could build. Secondly it was work, you still had to pick up the loot and then transport it, which was dangerous. It most certainly had its draw backs. The only reason CCP got rid of them was because the russians were selling off all of their isk for RMT'ing and then high amounts of isk were cutting into their plex sales. They ruined our in game economy because of this.

While I hate paying more for ships as much as everyone else, I don't think ******* over the mining profession even more by nerfing their income is something anybody should be encouraging. That profession is already horribly boring and ridiculed. It needs dev love to be an interesting and profitable mechanic, not indirect nerfs.

If you just want drone alloys back in the game, I'd support them being added as a drop in special "drone haulers" that you can catch and kill, but regular combat rogue drones should only offer a bounty, not drop alloys.

did u actually mine, its a **** ton of repetetive work in highsec then u make it out to be. Suiciders also are a risk but its alot saver than low, null i assume is pretty save again.

I condone this.

Yeah, since even if they bring back the alloys, it still has the same locals hanging around

I didn't say anything about high-sec, did I? I said the profession as a whole.

Improving the yield of certain asteroids is not a fix. It's a bandage that doesn't even cover the wound. It completely ignores the actual problem. The problem is that not only is mining unprofitable, it's BORING. It's an old, outdated, boring mechanic that is rightfully the bottom feeder profession of EVE. It's absolute **** in every form.

Mining needs to become an interactive experience that cannot be done AFK. It needs to be something visually appealing, with brilliant comets and ring mining, asteroids being cut into smaller pieces. It needs to be something dangerous, with real hazards just from breaking the rocks apart. It needs to have chances for failure based on how close you're paying attention. If you go afk and your mining laser strays onto useless dirt - that's all you'll get. Useless dirt. It should be a time sensitive situation, where you need to think fast and act fast, or you'll miss out on the profits.

Once mining is overhauled to become a challenging and exciting profession on par with combat, the rewards for it can be boosted significantly to compensate. You'll now have activity risk (exploding asteroids and gas clouds), profit risk (harvesting useless scrap because you didn't pay attention), player risk (ganks, thieves, etc), and the requirement to know what you're doing beyond picking the right crystal and timing when to turn off/on your strip miners.

When all that is done, when mining is a useful and enjoyable gaming experience (not an AFK experience), then I'll support bringing back drone alloys.

Until then, shut the **** up.

a carrier and a noctis in null sec is way higher risk than two hulks in high sec.