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The Giant List of Fleet Comps

Author
Ezek Price
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
#1 - 2013-10-09 22:39:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Ezek Price
UPDATE: Work on the site is underway with the encyclopedia looking to be done in a weeks time.

I am attempting to chronicle the many fleet comps EVE entities have used and I need help from everyone. Now some quick groundrules, there are obviously criteria and I am looking for fleet compositions, not just fits. For example, Thundercats is a fleet comp (well its a fitting too) but the Stabberbond (2WCS+3Gyro Vaga) is a fitting (feel free to dispute).

Criteria:
- Post Apocrypha (wormhole expansion), pre Apoc is fine as long as you mention its an "Archaic" fleet comp (eg, cav ravens)
- Used by lowsec and/or nullsec entities

Format for submitting info
- Expansion/time it was used (any general idea to help me categorise it)
- A fitting or brief description of how it was fit
- General idea of its support (ie, did it require guardians or oneiroses, or ECM/EWAR support)
- Who pioneered it/is known for it (where possible, most fleet comps just organically come into being)

Something like this:

Quote:
Thundercats
- HM Tengus, bricktanked, 10mn AB fit
- Pandemic Legion
- Circa, April 2011
- Germinate war


Now spam me!


The List So Far:

I have put some notes beside each fleet comp. The actual encyclopedia will be much better.

Post-Aprocrypha

Hellcat: abaddons
Thundercat: HM/HAM tengus
Dreamcat: Nightmares (never actually fielded?)
Fauxcat/Foxcat: Napocs/Apocs
Techfleet: Tempest Fleet Issues, armor+arty
Baltecfleet: Rail megas
Pantheon: reps delivered by RR rather than local reps on carriers (usually Archons)
Nanodrake: single or dual nano drakes, sometimes with dual webs, HM+HAM
Welpcane: old Hurricanes with two medium neuts, sometimes with one nano
AHAC: ABing lowsig armour tanked T2 HACs (aka Fist of ****)
Rokhtrine: Rail rokhs
Permadrake: perma-MWDing drakes
Brickdrake: super tanked drake (AB/MWD)
Gokufleet: no cloak bombers supported by logi frigs
Grapeape: shield tanked pulse oracle (sometimes armour tanked?) (aka Oracool)
Tachdawg: tachyon oracle (BL name, feel free to dispute)
Sleipfleet: buffer tanked Sleips, sometimes withTengu reps (fit with arty at least once)
FuckYouFleet: EWAR celestises
Tracking Dreads: tracking dreads
Slowcats: archons designed to RR and use sentries
Sentry Domis: mini version of above (potatoe cat)
Ishtarfleet: HAC version of above (aka Ishtar Secunda?)
Doomcat: armour tanked bombers designed to be cynoed onto target and drop bombs at 0 velocity
2Pac T3: dual prop armour Tech 3 cruisers
Artynados: 1400 artillery tornadoes, can be LSE or DCU tanked
425 Naga: rail nagas
Shield Pantheon: Scorp Navy Issues supported by shield triage
Hydra Gang: EWAR heavy frig gangs
Wolfpack: artillery wolves
TWEED: TWin Engine Deimos (named by Agony, pioneered by The Church?)
SHAC/SNAC: Sniper HACs (HACs designed to hit out to 100km)
Durka Pipebombers: smartbombing battleships
NanoSHAG: nanoed cruisers (stabber variants/cynabals)
Alphafleet: maelstroms
100MN Tech3s: oversized propmod on Tech3s - most often a Legion or Tengu (100mn Tengu called Cowardcats)
RR BS: most often Phoon fleets with two RR modules
RR BC: most often RR drakes (sometimes RR hurricanes might be seen)(aka spidertanking drakes)
Blaster Nagas:
Siegefleet: max DPS bombers for sov structure grinding (called Freedom Fighters by TEST)
Harpyfleet: rail harpies
Caracalfleet (does this actually have a name): AB, HAM caracals
BabyMoonins: arty ruptures supported by scythes (called PimPams by TEST)
Slippery Petes: dictor nulliifed zero-tank railgus
Sailboats: two neut, AC tempests (aka Welpests, Herocats), always shield tanked
Cavalry 2013: cruise missile MJD ravens
Railgu: rail AB tengu
Fireline Munnin: 720 munnins with smartbombs in the utility highs
"WH" Proteus: wormhole MWD proteus
Rail Comorants: designed to engage around 100km (aka Longbows)
Instacane: instalocking 720 arty hurricanes, designed as anti-bomber support
Arty SFI: sometimes fit with a web but otherwise a 720 arty SFI doctrine used in lowsec and as an anti-bomber doc in Nullsec
Talwar Doctrine: light missile kiting Talwars, sometimes MSE tanked
Perma MWD Tengu: capstable HAM tengu (VoC)
ONI Fleet: Navy Omens as baby Zealots
Uboats: light missile Coraxes
Dangerfleet: dual prop Gilas (BL)
Gilafleet: AB fit Gila
Prophfleet: TEST sentry prophecies
Enyolo: shield enyos supported by scimitars
Blapnag: capless guns render Bhaals and neut legions, commonly used in WH space, ineffective. Starts shield fit, has an archon to refit off.
Ultrawar: MSE tanked AC T1 thrashers (PIZZA named)
Panzer Fleet: passive resist Mallers and active resist Navy Omens that are both cap boosted.
Fingerbang: passive resist Omens with TC instead of capbooster
Raul Moat: Pulse Absolutions, Guardians, supported by Loki/Proteus tackle
BBC: armour arty machariels supported by proteus/rapiers + guardians
Welpclones: buffer fit HAM cyclones fit to kill capitals (aka Dieclones)
Lowkey Fleet: armour fit Lokis with webs and arty
PL Proteii Fleet: anyone got a name for these rail prots?
Fire Support BCs: Attack BC equivalents of the Scorch Pulse Oracle (ie, AC Nados with Barrage), shield fit
Arty Abaddons: err yeah
Armour Taloses: dual web, 1600m plated Taloses
Shield Taloses: comes in many forms but at heart it is a ganking and kiting fleet doctrine. (variations: web talos, nano talos, tracking talos)
Nanoshield Ishtars: they must have a Cat name
Blokh: blaster rokhs
Eagle Fleet: rail Eagles, MWD, buffer tanked
Po'hac: dual prop T1 armour cruisers (does have a faction variant with ENIs)
Pocket Rocket: AB rail thoraxes
Slowmera: sentry c

Archaic (Pre-Aprocrypha)

Cavalry Raven: dual MWD ravens that travelled faster than the torpedos they launched, resulting in a massive alpha strike at the end of the charge.
Masterplan: RR beam fit Abaddons designed to withstand Doomsdays (also, see DDProof, sniper BSs to withstand 1-2 AOE DDs)

War doesn't determine who is right, only who is left.

My blog, Civire Commander: http://civre.blogspot.co.uk/

Jayne Fillon
#2 - 2013-10-09 23:46:04 UTC
Wow, quite the list you've got here.

Only one I can think of is the VoC Tengu fleet, although the fitting isn't public, it was used notably during this fight.

Details and clues to how it was used are on page 2 and in the comment section.

Other than that, I can't think of any other fleet comps you haven't already listed.

Can't shoot blues if you don't have any. Long Live NPSI.

Dar Saleem
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2013-10-10 02:45:31 UTC
Slowcats are archon drone boats

Dominix Fleet was called potatoe cat interenally in N3
Archare
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2013-10-10 02:49:58 UTC
Don't forget the doctrine that works in any situation!

Kitchen sink! Twisted
Abdiel Kavash
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#5 - 2013-10-10 03:24:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Abdiel Kavash
RRBS, that used to be a thing, right?

Also you're missing classical blops gangs, i.e. bombers/recons/t3s.
Blodhgarm Dethahal
8 Sins of Man
Stray Dogs.
#6 - 2013-10-10 03:24:52 UTC
LeZap: neuting Legion with drones... more of a fit than doctorine but they are used commonly in wormholes in conjunction with other T3s and logi.

Cool list though :)
Six Strangelove
Quam Singulari
#7 - 2013-10-10 05:08:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Six Strangelove
Masterplan:

Long range (~120km) Abaddons with ridiculous EHP and a MegaBeam or two dropped for remote reps. An RR fleet intended to withstand a Doomsday AOE and still go about their business. It sounds silly now, but they were a tough and surprisingly useful fleet doc at the time, though I suspect changes to the Doomsday have rendered the whole concept obsolete.

Also cap issues. Roll

Force of Evil flew them in early 2009.
Rinterra Tsurioro
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#8 - 2013-10-10 05:23:08 UTC
Prophecy fleet is an idea that TEST stole from N3 during the end of the fountain war.

Also, Muninn fleet is better known as "Fireline Munnins," which were initially designed to firewall against missiles and drones.

You may want to add that Foxcats rely on armor triage a lot in order to work properly.

Tornado fleet is becoming a thing with groups in the Curse area. They are 1400mm MWD tornados designed to snipe things off of station undocks in excess of 100 km.
Lynx Sawpaw
Hole Divers
Wardec Mechanics
#9 - 2013-10-10 08:12:42 UTC
Not sure if this falls under the same fleet as tracking dreads or not but I'll post it anyways for debating purposes.

Blapnag fleet. Used in Wspace by Disavowed. (and probably others)

Consists of 1-2 Naglfar, + triage archon and a support fleet of t3 armor + vigilants/vindicators for their webs/paints. The Naglfar's capless guns allow it to continue to do it's job while under direct neuting pressure from bhaalgorns and neut legions that are commonly used to counter dread blapping.

Nag fit is fluid since the proximity to the archon allows it to refit as needed. It has the ability to fit armor buffer if it needs to coast out of siege but is otherwise shield tanked.

This fleet became a thing when the naglfar was given a rework.

In rust, we trust.
Lynx Sawpaw
Hole Divers
Wardec Mechanics
#10 - 2013-10-10 08:17:35 UTC
Also what about RnK's pipe bombing fleet of smartbomb battleships?
Danny John-Peter
Blue Canary
Watch This
#11 - 2013-10-10 08:37:17 UTC
Pulepocs;

T1 Apocs of old, used by CVA on days of yore to Ez mode nano gangs.

(Possibly archaic)

Also I'm fairly sure nano-phoons are no longer Archaic.
Ezek Price
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
#12 - 2013-10-10 10:22:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Ezek Price
Abdiel Kavash wrote:
RRBS, that used to be a thing, right?

Also you're missing classical blops gangs, i.e. bombers/recons/t3s.


I will put Blops gangs in but there are so many variations:

- Bringing bombers or not
- Jumping the bridger or jumping blops with bombers, just blops?
- RR Recons
- RR tech 3s
- Tech 3 HK?
- Recon HK?
- Armour/shield? (and yes armour bombers have been seriously proposed before)

Hoping someone from MI will come along and enlighten me.

War doesn't determine who is right, only who is left.

My blog, Civire Commander: http://civre.blogspot.co.uk/

Capqu
Half Empty
xqtywiznalamywmodxfhhopawzpqyjdwrpeptuaenabjawdzku
#13 - 2013-10-10 10:43:21 UTC
ultrawar - t1 thrashers designed to win the isk war by killing a single real ship in exchange for fleets of 2 mil thrashers. supported by small mobile bubbles

used by pizza in the killing of elite space guild (rip)
Ezek Price
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
#14 - 2013-10-10 10:49:24 UTC
Capqu wrote:
ultrawar - t1 thrashers designed to win the isk war by killing a single real ship in exchange for fleets of 2 mil thrashers. supported by small mobile bubbles

used by pizza in the killing of elite space guild (rip)


Does PIZZA have a name for the Pyromancer squad bomber? Pizza delivery?

War doesn't determine who is right, only who is left.

My blog, Civire Commander: http://civre.blogspot.co.uk/

Capqu
Half Empty
xqtywiznalamywmodxfhhopawzpqyjdwrpeptuaenabjawdzku
#15 - 2013-10-10 10:52:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Capqu
if you mean the warpcore stab mse fits, they have names but they aren't suitable for this forum Sad

edit
you put ultrawar under talwars, they're very different. this is an ultrawar thrasher
[Thrasher, ultrawar]

Gyrostabilizer I
Gyrostabilizer I

Medium Shield Extender I
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I

200mm AutoCannon I, EMP S
200mm AutoCannon I, EMP S
200mm AutoCannon I, EMP S
200mm AutoCannon I, EMP S
200mm AutoCannon I, EMP S
200mm AutoCannon I, EMP S
200mm AutoCannon I, EMP S
[Empty High slot]

Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Small Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I


1.4 mil isk, 200+ dps

since talwars came out they're mostly useless though, since talwars are just better and you can be more isk efficient since you don't actually lose talwars ever
Cire Xinehp
Noir.
Shadow Cartel
#16 - 2013-10-10 12:02:33 UTC
FIREWALL!!


One of the best responses to the Drake blob that there ever was (IMHO) Lol
March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2013-10-10 12:51:32 UTC
Cire Xinehp wrote:
FIREWALL!!


One of the best responses to the Drake blob that there ever was (IMHO) Lol

wanted to mention it. Great times!

The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"

Vyktor Abyss
Abyss Research
#18 - 2013-10-10 13:33:27 UTC
Gheyfrigs
- Ceptors and EAFs only
- Gallente militia, coming winter 2013 (post Rubicon)
Christine Peeveepeeski
Low Sec Concepts
#19 - 2013-10-10 14:26:28 UTC
Not sure what they called it but minny militia used to use SFI's for all the things since they cost **** all. I have seen pretty much every fit in the world for an SFI thanks to that (i'm looking at you, the guys that though ecm thrashers were cool so surely an ecm thrasher was awesome right?)

You could be sure that whatever fleet we had, at all, the minnie counter was SFI's.
Grarr Dexx
Now Look What You've Made Me Do
#20 - 2013-10-10 15:35:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Grarr Dexx
Raul Moat: Pulse Absolutions, Guardians, supported by Loki/Proteus tackle (if they'd let me bring my ******* Astartes cause they are clearly superior to Absos that would be swell)

BBC: Armor Arty Machariels, Guardians, supported by Proteus/Rapier tackle

Also, pantheons don't necessarily need subcaps to be called pantheon, they are just carriers intricately linked with loads of energy transfers to generate loads of capacitor which is then used to rep **** up.
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