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Why I Dont Log In

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Bruce Kemp
Suddenly taken over
#21 - 2013-10-09 17:47:01 UTC
Leigh Akiga wrote:
I just read something that basically sums up why I dont log in unless 'something' is happening. What that something is doesnt matter.

I keep my training going on 2 characters, one is a subcap pvp guy and the other is a capital pilot (carriers and dreads.) But I play other games, currently Final Fantasy XIV until something happens in 0.0

I feel like its up to us, the players to make these things happen and right now there is very little incentive for conflict as this article states. Certainly not gonna login for PVE. Am I the only one who does this?


So you are saying nothing happens in EVE unless you log in?.......lol.......O.K

Roll
Leigh Akiga
Kuhri Innovations
#22 - 2013-10-09 17:49:45 UTC
Bruce Kemp wrote:
So you are saying nothing happens in EVE unless you log in?.......lol.......O.K


No, I said I'm trying to have a discussion. I want someone to say: "You're wrong and this is why.."

Or: "You know what, you're right!" And this is what I think would fix it.."

You know- a discussion rather than random trolling
Random Majere
Rogue Fleet
#23 - 2013-10-09 17:52:35 UTC
Hopefully CCP has an ace up their sleeve for us. Somewhere.... maybe in 2027.... they will come up with something.

Meanwhile...yeah...I share your feelings!
Rengerel en Distel
#24 - 2013-10-09 17:56:28 UTC
Telling you to post with your main would be random trolling, poking holes in your arguments is not.

With the increase in shiptoasting, the Report timer needs to be shortened.
Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#25 - 2013-10-09 17:59:50 UTC
Leigh Akiga wrote:
I just read something that basically sums up why I dont log in unless 'something' is happening. What that something is doesnt matter.

I keep my training going on 2 characters, one is a subcap pvp guy and the other is a capital pilot (carriers and dreads.) But I play other games, currently Final Fantasy XIV until something happens in 0.0

I feel like its up to us, the players to make these things happen and right now there is very little incentive for conflict as this article states. Certainly not gonna login for PVE. Am I the only one who does this?


yea nullsec is boring because of boring CFC members

agree

Harry Forever vs. Goonswarm
Leigh Akiga
Kuhri Innovations
#26 - 2013-10-09 18:03:20 UTC
Rengerel en Distel wrote:
Telling you to post with your main would be random trolling, poking holes in your arguments is not.


Poke some more holes please.

And posting with my main would cause 50% off forum viewers to ignore/discredit my post simply because of my alliance tag- Like Mr. Forever here Roll
Seraph Essael
Air
The Initiative.
#27 - 2013-10-09 18:12:59 UTC
Winter Archipelago wrote:
Leigh Akiga wrote:
All of these require effort in actually finding a fight/victim and can take upwards of 2-3 hours to even find a single hostile that isnt a renter.

Sounds more like an alliance-related issue of having too many blues.


Reset all personal contacts.

Reset all corp contacts.

Reset all alliance contacts.

Endless hours of fun. Shoot everything! Big smile

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Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#28 - 2013-10-09 18:24:22 UTC
Leigh Akiga wrote:
I just read something that basically sums up why I dont log in unless 'something' is happening. What that something is doesnt matter.

I keep my training going on 2 characters, one is a subcap pvp guy and the other is a capital pilot (carriers and dreads.) But I play other games, currently Final Fantasy XIV until something happens in 0.0

I feel like its up to us, the players to make these things happen and right now there is very little incentive for conflict as this article states. Certainly not gonna login for PVE. Am I the only one who does this?


Everyone's idea of what constitutes "something to do" is different. Sometimes I sit at home away from my computer and think "omg, their are blood raider NPC battships just infesting Delve, someone better do something about that"!. So I log in and rat, but they keep respawning!

My favorite saying about EVE is : "EVE is a sandbox, if your not having fun, it's not the sand's fault".
Anomaly One
Doomheim
#29 - 2013-10-09 18:25:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Anomaly One
this is mainly about null right? well no one is creating content because most are too lazy and just wait for their "leaders" to create it for them and if they don't, they don't even bother coming into game (the pawns) this is why every other game is instanced because the companies know most don't bother creating content they just wanna mindlessly do it. Now look at harry forever he was trying to create content in taht giant thread about attacking null sec just for lulz, but who joined him really? most thought "wow that would be awesome" and just went back to mining or missions saying what's the point.. and others just mocked him.. the only thing that's gonna happen in the next couple of years is this

Karak Terrel wrote:
.. the next phase is the stagnation of the current empires until they are so weakened that new powers will take over because they will still have that incentive to rise to power and greatness.


Just like how a miner says he wont go afk and then months after he will dozy off and make that mistake same will happen to empires when they get too safe, eventually..

things do happen, just like how action happens in wormholes, low sec, high sec.. but no one hears about these regions it's always null that makes the news mostly.

How about your alliance joins AMAR FW and maybe get them to T5...
Abdiel Kavash
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#30 - 2013-10-09 18:27:48 UTC
The article and the OP's issue are a load of B.S. If you have nothing to do, blame your corporation, your alliance, not the game devs. Right now I wish I had more than one combat-trained character, because there is action going on in three different places and I can't be everywhere at once to enjoy it.

The content is there, you (your corp/your alliance) just suck at finding it / creating it.
Artimis Scout
Wormhole Cartography
#31 - 2013-10-09 19:00:28 UTC
Goons are clearly a victim of thier own sucess. I hope you guys all mass quit.
Murk Paradox
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#32 - 2013-10-09 19:02:25 UTC
Leigh Akiga wrote:
I just read something that basically sums up why I dont log in unless 'something' is happening. What that something is doesnt matter.

I keep my training going on 2 characters, one is a subcap pvp guy and the other is a capital pilot (carriers and dreads.) But I play other games, currently Final Fantasy XIV until something happens in 0.0

I feel like its up to us, the players to make these things happen and right now there is very little incentive for conflict as this article states. Certainly not gonna login for PVE. Am I the only one who does this?



No. I login to help make something happen. Not wait for it to happen to me.

Which btw... you could easily do as one of your pilots flies a cap... if you logged in to do so.

Sounds like you have a chicken before the egg kind of problem.

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Murk Paradox
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#33 - 2013-10-09 19:04:16 UTC
Leigh Akiga wrote:
Niec Mogul wrote:
You could always log in and make "something" happen.


But why would I? There are no stakes, nothing of value to conquer or own. Player vs. AI is boring to me. As I stated in this thread here, something needs to change and the course of development cycles doesnt make it seem likely.

Highsec gets stuff, Wormholes get stuff, ships get rebalanced but the biggest conflict driver in EVE history gets ignored Sad



I... you... eh... what?

Link me the latest Eve article representing industry or WH space please.

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Murk Paradox
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#34 - 2013-10-09 19:06:50 UTC
Leigh Akiga wrote:
March rabbit wrote:
one more "i don't log in because CCP does not provide CONTENT in this sandbox multiplayer game"!

btw: your stuff?


No its more like CCP doesnt provide ways and reasons for players to create content.

Who is going to conquer these 272 systems and why would they?

Or these 171 systems?

Or these 88 systems?

The state of content generation currently is waiting for entropy, that means- waiting for people/organizations to go through attrition 'people quitting/going afk/inactive' like me.



You should. Right now.

Login and go do it! Don't wait!

Or maybe you should consider a move to a more inhabitated place. We get tons of fun fighting e-uni constantly, including cap fights.

Be a part of the solution not the problem.

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Leigh Akiga
Kuhri Innovations
#35 - 2013-10-09 19:11:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Leigh Akiga
Murk Paradox wrote:
No. I login to help make something happen. Not wait for it to happen to me.

Which btw... you could easily do as one of your pilots flies a cap... if you logged in to do so.

Sounds like you have a chicken before the egg kind of problem.


So if my small corporation/alliance wanted to break into sov 0.0 that could happen?

If my medium-sized corporation/alliance wanted to break into sov 0.0 that could happen?

If my large corporation/alliance wanted to break into sov 0.0 that could happen?

The article states that nullsec is controlled by about 15 dudes/ 2 blocs. One with a supercap army and the other with a line-member army. These 2 entities have no reason to do highstakes battle with one another.

Sure plenty of people roam and have goodfights all day long, the content I'm talking about is the moving and shaking in the article. More opinions please.
Leigh Akiga
Kuhri Innovations
#36 - 2013-10-09 19:14:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Leigh Akiga
Artimis Scout wrote:
Goons are clearly a victim of thier own sucess. I hope you guys all mass quit.


What about the other half? Who are the victims over there and whose success is it? The whole other half of the galaxy is controlled by a group of people who all have blue standings with one another. That means they wont shoot each other and wont touch each others structures or sovereingty.

Why would people choose to limit targets like this? And what could get them shooting each other??
Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
#37 - 2013-10-09 19:19:48 UTC

Everytime I login I run across awesome content being created. Just in the last 2 days since coming back from a vacation, I have facilitated 2 amazing bonus rounds where lucky clients put it all on the line to win big. For those that were not there, at least one of those may be posted on www.minerbumping.com within the next few days.

When I'm not doubling isk, you can find me undocked ganking illegal miners or wandering through nullsec in one of my trusty 100m+ bombers.

When not in space shooting at things or docked doubling isk, you can often find me donating isk and giving guidance to brand new players.

If things are so boring for you, I have an idea. Start up another account if you don't have one already and go infiltrate one of your main alliance's enemies. Relieve them of assets and ships in space. I hear Northern Associates renter corps are always recruiting.

Have fun!

See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did.
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#38 - 2013-10-09 19:29:25 UTC
I occasionally like to play that mini game attached to the forum.

Something to do with spaceships, right?

Mr Epeen Cool
Batelle
Federal Navy Academy
#39 - 2013-10-09 19:29:46 UTC
Leigh Akiga wrote:
I just read something that basically sums up why I dont log in unless 'something' is happening. What that something is doesnt matter.

I keep my training going on 2 characters, one is a subcap pvp guy and the other is a capital pilot (carriers and dreads.) But I play other games, currently Final Fantasy XIV until something happens in 0.0

I feel like its up to us, the players to make these things happen and right now there is very little incentive for conflict as this article states. Certainly not gonna login for PVE. Am I the only one who does this?



This is normal. Sometimes you get burnt out or bored. Then you wait a few months or an update is released and you feel like playing again.

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Felicity Love
Doomheim
#40 - 2013-10-09 19:32:04 UTC
Niec Mogul wrote:
You could always log in and make "something" happen.


... or one of those scripted events where the system gets capped at 1,000 or so... THOOOOOOOOSE are sooooooo much fun. And you just know there isn't a farts chance in a windstorm that ANYTHING you do matters anyway. Shocked

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