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Eve on a SSD or HD ?

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Yummy Chocolate
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#21 - 2013-10-09 07:17:50 UTC
AFAIK the bulk of the data EVE needs to load comes from the server, so you can just install it on a HDD without any problem at all.

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Random Woman
Very Professional Corporation
#22 - 2013-10-09 08:17:57 UTC
Coming fro someone that only has one HDD and 3 SSD, id say put Eve on the HDD.

The inital loading of eve is faster on the SSD, but we talk a bout a few seconds here on something you do maybe 1-5 times a day.

After the inital loading there is just not much happening on your storage device of choise, so id rather use that fast space for something else.
alexi turov
Neutronium Alchemist's
#23 - 2013-10-09 08:19:58 UTC
256Gb SSD for Windows, 64Gb SSD for EVE and everything else runs off a 2TB HDD.

It wasn't planned, just the way things turned out after a system reshuffle. To be honest; I don't notice too much difference between platter and SSD, but if you have the cash there's no reason not to go for it.
Johan Civire
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#24 - 2013-10-09 09:35:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Johan Civire
ISD LackOfFaith wrote:
I haven't had issues with Eve by using a HDD on my gaming rig, but a SSD would definitely help some load times and such. If you can afford it and aren't killing your space available too much by swapping to a SSD, go for it.


What load times? I`m playing on a 55rpm that's a slow HD drive. The only load time I have is when I run the game and login. That's the only "load time" I have. So is it word to use It on a SSD??? . The question is? Will this speed up the loading in game (docking undocking jumping) the answer is no.
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#25 - 2013-10-09 12:45:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Solstice Project
Remember to buy an SSD with high random 4KByte throughput
instead of one with just a high sequential reading performance.

Pages are (multiple of) 4KByte and unless you plan to copy from one high speed drive to another,
there will be your biggest performance gain.
Ra Jackson
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#26 - 2013-10-09 12:55:12 UTC
Amhra Rho wrote:
Eve doesn't particularly rely heavily on the hard drive, but I run an implementation both ways (motor HD on my main pc, SSD on my gaming notebook). The version of Eve on my SSD really is noticeably a little crisper and slightly more responsive, but not by a huge amount. About what I expected.


You notice the difference when you are in a situation where the Eve cache is used heavily, like for example in crowded systems. Try to switch on avatars in local and browse the local player list in Jita, with and without an SSD.
Icarus Able
Refuse.Resist
#27 - 2013-10-09 13:02:56 UTC
Use SSD. THe difference isnt huge, but its there.
T'Laar Bok
#28 - 2013-10-09 14:28:45 UTC  |  Edited by: T'Laar Bok
I cloned my RAID-ed SSD (1Tb) back to a 1Tb HHD . The only real difference I noticed was the OS start time. My computer runs 24/7 so OS restarts are few are far between. When 1Tb SSDs (I don't like RAID) became available at a reasonable price I'll clone back again.

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BoBoZoBo
MGroup9
#29 - 2013-10-09 15:15:53 UTC  |  Edited by: BoBoZoBo
SSD - not even a question.

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Batelle
Federal Navy Academy
#30 - 2013-10-09 15:17:48 UTC
Put your OS on your SSD. Other stuff doesn't really matter. If you have an enormous SSD with extra space, then might as well.

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V0LTA
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#31 - 2013-10-09 15:35:19 UTC
The SSD will make all the EVE patching every second day go a lot quicker as well.

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Vihura
Vihura Cor
#32 - 2013-10-09 16:10:54 UTC
Solstice Project wrote:
Remember to buy an SSD with high random 4KByte throughput
instead of one with just a high sequential reading performance.

Pages are (multiple of) 4KByte and unless you plan to copy from one high speed drive to another,
there will be your biggest performance gain.

This
Murk Paradox
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#33 - 2013-10-09 16:15:37 UTC
You do not need a SSD for Eve. This is not advice for your rig or setup, but in regards to Eve as an application.

And since you had to ask, I would caution about choosing a SSD unless you are in the practice of buying refurbished ones every few months (I do) because SSDs deteriorate over time.

If you want a decent rig that is going to support your games for a good amount of time, just get a decent 500gb hard drive with like 10k RPM and slave a 3TB drive to it for storage.

Way lower maintenance.

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Liaria Cullen
Pulling The Plug
PURPLE HELMETED WARRIORS
#34 - 2013-10-09 16:17:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Liaria Cullen
Johan Civire wrote:
ISD LackOfFaith wrote:
I haven't had issues with Eve by using a HDD on my gaming rig, but a SSD would definitely help some load times and such. If you can afford it and aren't killing your space available too much by swapping to a SSD, go for it.


What load times? I`m playing on a 55rpm that's a slow HD drive. The only load time I have is when I run the game and login. That's the only "load time" I have. So is it word to use It on a SSD??? . The question is? Will this speed up the loading in game (docking undocking jumping) the answer is no.

um... it'll speed up jumping, undocking and bridging because even if you don't realise it they all have load times, it wont be by much we're talking seconds but it is faster on an SSD for sure.
Solstice Project's Alt
Doomheim
#35 - 2013-10-09 16:42:35 UTC
Vihura wrote:
Solstice Project wrote:
Remember to buy an SSD with high random 4KByte throughput
instead of one with just a high sequential reading performance.

Pages are (multiple of) 4KByte and unless you plan to copy from one high speed drive to another,
there will be your biggest performance gain.

This
Thank you for confirming.
Sadly, many people have no idea about this and just follow
cheap advices from cheap sites/magazines.

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Murk Paradox
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#36 - 2013-10-09 16:48:40 UTC
Erotica 1 wrote:
Rhatar Khurin wrote:
I heard once that "Rooks and kings" have on their application to joining that they wont accept logistics/carrier who dont use an SSD


Here's how I imagine these conversations going in local:


anonymous freighter pilot: I just lost another freighter to Goons, how are they so fast?!
anonymous goon: Mittens buys us all gaming rigs with ssd's
anonymous freighter pilot: GRRR Goons!

Personally, I mainly use a very basic laptop with integrated video and I can still run multiple clients. Not well mind you. But I'm sure the next computers I get will all have ssd's. Even if it doesn't improve your performance for what you use it for right now, if you have the money and it may make sense within the expected time you will use the computer, why not? For PC's, I usually get something where you get the best bang for the buck- looking for best performance without paying ridiculous prices. Then I keep it longer than average, maybe upgrading the video card once before eventually gifting it to a friend or family member who needs a computer but can't afford one.



The problem with that ideology is the same for people who buy premium vehicles and do not understand the importance of taking that vehicle to the dealership to pay for a $100 oil change as opposed to going to walmart and getting a $20 oil change.

It's all in the maintenance.

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Djana Libra
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#37 - 2013-10-09 17:12:16 UTC
Noriko Mai wrote:
Montevius Williams wrote:
I HIGHLY recommend SSD's. I never build a computer without one. They boot your computer up SUPER fast and it will load the EVE client faster as well, but you wont see any boost in game performance. Thats what the GPU's are for.

LOL. How old are you? 12?


well either that or he's missing a chromosome.

Also don't talk about things if you don't have any understanding of the subject, stating that only a GPU boosts gaming performance is dumb as ...
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#38 - 2013-10-09 17:46:18 UTC
In case it hasn't been mentioned yet...

You can setup a SSD partition to be used for a drive cache. Fast access for stuff used a lot, and the benefits of mass storage of a platter drive.
Montevius Williams
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#39 - 2013-10-09 18:28:42 UTC
Djana Libra wrote:
Noriko Mai wrote:
Montevius Williams wrote:
I HIGHLY recommend SSD's. I never build a computer without one. They boot your computer up SUPER fast and it will load the EVE client faster as well, but you wont see any boost in game performance. Thats what the GPU's are for.

LOL. How old are you? 12?


well either that or he's missing a chromosome.

Also don't talk about things if you don't have any understanding of the subject, stating that only a GPU boosts gaming performance is dumb as ...



What are you talking about...SSD do not improve game performance...They improve load times yes, but not performance...That's common sense...

If you do see any kind of performance, its so minor you wont even notice. C'mon people, really??

The only thing they noticeably improve is loading times. Any game play performance that you do see is so minor, it doesnt even matter.

I have Skyrim on my HHD drive AND my SSD and I dont notice any increase in performance from one over the other. The only thing I notice is that it loads much faster on the SSD drive.

You guys are high or some **** to think that SSD's boost gaming performance in any meaningful way...get that **** outta here. You MIGHT get lucky and get a 1% boost, but thats it.

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Noriko Mai
#40 - 2013-10-09 19:15:26 UTC
Montevius Williams wrote:
Djana Libra wrote:
Noriko Mai wrote:
Montevius Williams wrote:
I HIGHLY recommend SSD's. I never build a computer without one. They boot your computer up SUPER fast and it will load the EVE client faster as well, but you wont see any boost in game performance. Thats what the GPU's are for.

LOL. How old are you? 12?


well either that or he's missing a chromosome.

Also don't talk about things if you don't have any understanding of the subject, stating that only a GPU boosts gaming performance is dumb as ...



What are you talking about...SSD do not improve game performance...They improve load times yes, but not performance...That's common sense...

If you do see any kind of performance, its so minor you wont even notice. C'mon people, really??

The only thing they noticeably improve is loading times. Any game play performance that you do see is so minor, it doesnt even matter.

I have Skyrim on my HHD drive AND my SSD and I dont notice any increase in performance from one over the other. The only thing I notice is that it loads much faster on the SSD drive.

You guys are high or some **** to think that SSD's boost gaming performance in any meaningful way...get that **** outta here. You MIGHT get lucky and get a 1% boost, but thats it.


Sorry. The quote was misleading.

Next try:
Montevius Williams wrote:
I HIGHLY recommend SSD's. I never build a computer without one.[..]

LOL. How old are you? 12?

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