EVE General Discussion

No one's going to declare war if it costs that much. This will create absolute safety in highsec; a ridiculous premise for EVE Online. EVE is about competition, and without being able to attack your rivals, none of their actions will have consequences. Bunch of guys come into your belt and bump your mining ships? Nothing you can do. Someone cleared out your corp hangars and started/joined a new corporation with your members' hard-earned ISK? You have no recourse. Someone keeps salvaging your mission wrecks? You can never touch him. Someone insulted your honor, and the honor of your significant other? Too bad, cuz you all be bitches.

There's a million legitimate reasons for the existence of wars in high-sec. By making them cost unreasonable sums of money, you eliminate the possibility of having them. You also essentially kill the mercenary profession, which is already barely financially viable in most high-sec situations.

Heck, even what you consider "griefing carebears," others would consider as separating the strong from the weak. Bad corporations fall apart under the pressure of conflict, while good ones go on to greatness.


See above.

Want to know what will solve it?

Adding system security as a modifier for all POS jobs .. suddenly all those safe towers are like high maintenance girlfriends compared to low and null towers.

Wouldn't solve the highsec grief bears desire to do his risk averse version of PvP (commonly known as PvE to real combat pilots) though, so feel free to keep crying and ignore this.

I never said it wasn't broken. I only said that the ability to be able to physically hurt other players in high-sec is a necessity.

…and the problem with the deregulation of this exploit isn't that it alters the cost of wardecs — it's that it removes wardecs against corps as a gameplay mechanic. The cost is somewhere between infinite an no-longer-applicable. Both are highly problematic, and so far beyond mere unreasonability that it breaks the game.

While the OP has beaten me to the punch, I still intend to offer the same service shortly, brcause this failed policy needs to be so massively abused that they have to revert to the old exploit ruling.

I know that the whole process of declaring war is broken, I did say that the Gm admitted as much. I also went on to say that CCP cannot fix it right away. Most of you blithley ignored those relevant details.

Yes of course it is wrong, it is wrong because it is broken and there's no-one to spare to police it at CCP.

Until it is fixed, the shield thing will keep happening.

@Op - You have my vote to get it fixed, but we both know that's not going to happen anytime soon. What to do in the meantime ?

No, because that doesn't solve the problem.

Something just doesn't seem right with the order of events

Had an acquaintance under wardec a couple weeks ago. Wish I'd have known about your alliance then. The griefers were doing all kinds of corp hopping and abusing the system to their advantage. Definitely adding your alliance as a contact.

There seems to be a lack of reading comprehension in this thread by a fair number of people. We (Dec Shield) are not declaring wars against anyone, ever. We're absorbing wars from other people. We usually have 5-10 incoming wars. Everyone here making arguments that we should "move to low/nullsec" or stop griefing carebears doesn't even make sense since we're not doing any fighting ourselves. We're the ones saving these people.

Stop giving him ideas that I were going to implement!