Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Bad idea to make the taranis even squishier since its already squishy to begin with. It didn't need a nerf, more like a boost.

I will actually stick with the stiletto since it's slightly faster

In a recent post I suggested these changes would turn Interceptors into 0.0 shuttles. I was not arguing against Immunity to warp disruption bubbles (not significant in combat/engagement). I WAS suggesting the Slasher, Condor, Executioner and Atron were comparable In COMBAT and TACKLING. The primary role of Interceptors.

So comments like "Interceptors will be untouchable. Yeah! Provided they don't participate in combat and attempt to tackling ANYTHING.
Mind you. Interceptors can still be caught by insta locking setups.

I'd also like to remind those who seem to forget that ALL frigates will be capable of accelerating into and decelerating out of warp significantly. So unlike those who were singularly focused on turning Interceptors in to shuttles. I focused on how they performed in a engagement compared to tech 1 frigates and if they SOMEHOW wouldn't be caught by another micro warp driving Frigate

No one I interact with that has sense believes these changes will increase their effectiveness in combat; with exceptions (Crow and Malediction). But avoiding engagements all together? Sure they'll be able to avoid allot! Again, I'm not focusing on what happens in warp but in an ACTUAL ENGAGEMENT NOT GETTING TO SAID ENGAGEMENT OR AVOIDING IT WHICH ANY TECH 1 FRIGATE CAN ALSO DO.

Note: I wonder why most players are not focused on the fact that groups of assault frigates may also benefit from the warp acceleration and deceleration changes v0v

Anyway.

Lets compare a Crow with a Condor after these changes. Both ships WILL STILL have similar effective hit-points with one damage control; have similar velocity and accelerating into and decelerating out of warp but Crow has greater base warp speed; damage output and application; Condor has more CPU and similar power grid; similar targeting range and the Condor has more scan resolution. Obviously pilots interaction with Condor's have been orbited and tracking disruptors or damped to death with missile. Sometimes both at the same time.

Wat? Remove entire ships and roles just so you can brawl in a ship called an interceptor? Look, the combat inties have a role. It just isn't straight brawling like an AF. Theyre meamt to catch and murder other superlight ships (like bombers), kite and harass heavier frigates, and catch bigger ships. AFs are hoplites and inties are skirmishers - both have extremely effective tactical roles to play. Maybe if people stopped trying to do dumb things like stick blasters on a raptor they'd see just how much potential these ships have outside cyno deployment.

As for arguing these help power blocs more - come on people, don't be dense. Power blocs already have dozens of cyno alts wherever they need to go - thousands of members does that for you. The mobility helps roaming gangs more, giving them the option of bypassing hot systems and dropping deep behind enemy lines. The smaller yet organized alliances will benefit the most by far.

I was on the increase targeting range bandwagon. After playing with it for a bit, it's fine. The stat listed is for zero skills. With skills the slight increase in range makes it perfect. With boosts even better.

Ha ha ha! I am one of those morons. Gf gf gf. Hmm. Consideration huh? Intercept means intercept so Interceptors? It's starting to make sense. Wonder what else can intercept. Fu*k it! I'm Going to go watch "Sons of Anarchy".

Of all the changes the only thing that worries me a lot is bubble immunity.
Of course I understand that it makes scouting in a ceptor much more convenient but... it also makes bubbles useless as protection against gangs of interceptors that target mining ops or just any carebear activity. Essentially now to stop an interceptor gang you need an interceptor gang and a bunch of remote sebos to boot... As if nullified t3's are not enough.

I'd suggest to drop this idea entirely if you don't want to ruin null sec mining completely...
But if you _really_really_ want to add it -- make it as an interceptor specific module that fits into mid slot and with decent pg/cpu requirement, so that you have to sacrifice a good chunk of agility/tank/tackle if you want to fly a gaymobile.

Looking forward to the changes.

One small point that I'd like to raise a question for is the lockrange: 22.5km is relatively short.

I was hoping to see 27.5km to be the lowest and the other 32.5km instead of 22.5/27.5.


All in all, this is really interesting.

Why not just do it like I suggested and make combat interceptors AF's that trade tank for more speed, will give a sense of scalability and greater selection by preference. Do you choose the tankier, slower ship or the faster, squishier ship?

I fly interceptor a lot and also die a lot in them. One thing that compensate the sacrifice a interceptor pilot sometimes do to tackle a ship for your mates to kill and die in the process is that sometimes we survive and the loot is yours to take.

Why can't I have my already small cargo space untouched so I can take my reward for catching that Tengu and hold it up to structure until someone put a second scrambler on him so I can get out, don't we interceptor pilots deserve to get a piece of the loot also?

Why did you nerf the cargo space?