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Kate stark
#361 - 2013-10-08 14:52:37 UTC
Zen Guerrilla wrote:
I ASLO FIND IT TOTALLY AUNFAIR THAT SOMEBODY AT CCP GAVE SOMETHING TO SOMEONE FOR SOMETHING THEXY DID AND IT WASNT ME.
I MEAN, I DONT DO ANYTHING OTHER THNA COMPLAIN ON THE FORUMS AND I NEVER DID ANYTHING SPECIAL FOR THE GAEM BUT I DESERVE SOMETHING. OR, IF I GET NOTHING, SO SHOULD EVERYODY ELSE.

Am i doing this right?

caps: check.
terrible spelling and grammar: check.
obscene amounts of sarcasm: check.
Missed the point entirely: check.

yeah, i'd say you're doing it right.

Yay, this account hasn't had its signature banned. or its account, if you're reading this.
Kate stark
#362 - 2013-10-08 14:54:14 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Kate stark wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:
It doesn't matter how many times this has been said since before the 1st CSM (and uit's been said over and over and over), some people will always equate "vote" with "power to do stuff" even though anyone should be able to see without having to be told that the CSM is at best an advisory body.

And that's fine. CCP still needs to tell the CSM stuff like this. That way the CSM can tell CCP that the playerbase is going to be angry. Then if CCP does it anyway the CSM can be like "told you so". It can be a bargaining chip in future discussions. "This is what happened the last time you didn't listen to us."

sorry what's that? CCP can't hear you over the sound of all the IW scorpions they're giving to their new "community partners" (but don't tell any one)

If you can hear it, they clearly weren't doing a good job of hiding it...

if they did a better job of hiding it then we'd all be talking about freighter ganking and warp speed changes instead. ah, a simpler time...

Yay, this account hasn't had its signature banned. or its account, if you're reading this.
raven666wings
Cyber Chaos Crew
#363 - 2013-10-08 15:13:04 UTC  |  Edited by: raven666wings
Zen Guerrilla wrote:
I ASLO FIND IT TOTALLY AUNFAIR THAT SOMEBODY AT CCP GAVE SOMETHING TO SOMEONE FOR SOMETHING THEXY DID AND IT WASNT ME.
I MEAN, I DONT DO ANYTHING OTHER THNA COMPLAIN ON THE FORUMS AND I NEVER DID ANYTHING SPECIAL FOR THE GAEM BUT I DESERVE SOMETHING. OR, IF I GET NOTHING, SO SHOULD EVERYODY ELSE.

Am i doing this right?


who cares about some ships Lol IO Keep kalm and #YOLOSWAG
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#364 - 2013-10-08 15:20:50 UTC
raven666wings wrote:
Ranger 1 wrote:

At no point in time are CCP decisions put of for a vote, nor should they be.


I see. Thanks for reinforcing what I wrote. I thought i didn't express myself quite clearly.

Jenn aSide wrote:
CSM is at best an advisory body.


I prefer to use the one located in Account Management under the "Cancel Subscription" section. It seems to gather their attention better.


In other words you have no idea what's going on, or what the CSM actually is supposed to do, but you're very upset about it. Smile

No one is going to argue with you about doing what you think appropriate, but you should at least base those decisions on the facts instead of on your misunderstanding of the CSM's responsibilities.

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raven666wings
Cyber Chaos Crew
#365 - 2013-10-08 15:25:31 UTC  |  Edited by: raven666wings
Ranger 1 wrote:

In other words you have no idea what's going on, or what the CSM actually is supposed to do, but you're very upset about it. Smile


Hold my hand here and repeat it again with me. It might make you feel better.
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#366 - 2013-10-08 15:27:11 UTC
raven666wings wrote:
Ranger 1 wrote:

In other words you have no idea what's going on, or what the CSM actually is supposed to do, but you're very upset about it. Smile

No one is going to argue with you about doing what you think appropriate, but you should at least base those decisions on the facts instead of on your misunderstanding of the CSM's responsibilities.


Hold my hand here and repeat it again with me. It might make you feel better.

I feel fine thanks. Are you still here? Blink

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raven666wings
Cyber Chaos Crew
#367 - 2013-10-08 15:34:51 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:

I feel fine thanks. Are you still here? Blink


Keep repeating it to yourself even when you are feeling fine. This way you won't relapse into feeling bad about it.
raven666wings
Cyber Chaos Crew
#368 - 2013-10-08 15:57:29 UTC
Kate stark wrote:

if they did a better job of hiding it then we'd all be talking about freighter ganking and warp speed changes instead. ah, a simpler time...


Theres this old saying where I come from "That who does not owe, does not fear".
Kate stark
#369 - 2013-10-08 16:01:21 UTC
raven666wings wrote:
Kate stark wrote:

if they did a better job of hiding it then we'd all be talking about freighter ganking and warp speed changes instead. ah, a simpler time...


Theres this old saying where I come from "That who does not owe, does not fear".


does it mean anything, or is it just a string of words that some one thought "that sounds cool"?

Yay, this account hasn't had its signature banned. or its account, if you're reading this.
Signal11th
#370 - 2013-10-08 16:03:38 UTC
Kate stark wrote:
raven666wings wrote:
Kate stark wrote:

if they did a better job of hiding it then we'd all be talking about freighter ganking and warp speed changes instead. ah, a simpler time...


Theres this old saying where I come from "That who does not owe, does not fear".


does it mean anything, or is it just a string of words that some one thought "that sounds cool"?



I'd go with the latter.

God Said "Come Forth and receive eternal life!" I came fifth and won a toaster!
raven666wings
Cyber Chaos Crew
#371 - 2013-10-08 16:08:20 UTC
This one is also cool "For good understander half word is enough".
Kate stark
#372 - 2013-10-08 16:09:09 UTC
raven666wings wrote:
This one is also cool "For good understander half word is enough".

man with hole in pocket, feeling cocky all day.

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Maaaaowm Ogeko
Pandemic Horde High Sec Division
#373 - 2013-10-08 16:10:04 UTC
What a depressing thread.

Malcanis came in, explained his position and got pretty nastily attacked because it wasn't exactly a popular one. He responded with his characteristic snark but then wisely retreated. While I may not agree with all that he said, at least he attempted and succeeded in explaining his reasoning without launching an attack on the playerbase.

But Ripard Teg ... c'mon man. Your argument boils down to this: "U R ALL JUS JELLUS CUZ U NO GET SHINY". It makes you look like an insulting tool.

Malcanis may have made some people think about the issues at hand. Ripard Teg poured out barrels of gasoline and threw down matches.
raven666wings
Cyber Chaos Crew
#374 - 2013-10-08 16:20:06 UTC  |  Edited by: raven666wings
Maaaaowm Ogeko wrote:

Malcanis may have made some people think about the issues at hand. Ripard Teg poured out barrels of gasoline and threw down matches.



Some men just wanna watch the world burn Twisted
Murk Paradox
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#375 - 2013-10-08 16:25:41 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Quote:
No. "Any group who wins the tournament" is the exact opposite of "specific group of players".


It does mean "specific group of players". PvP pilots. It doesn't do anything for market characters, miners, industrialists, etc. CCP does this to promote PvP, and they reward the people who do PvP in that context accordingly.




Fun fact: anyone can get into a pvp ship. Even industrialists and marketeers and miners.

They are not excluded except by choice.

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raven666wings
Cyber Chaos Crew
#376 - 2013-10-08 16:40:57 UTC
Guyz it's all good...

Let's all give hands with CCP and Blink and sing Kumba-Ya while watching shiny Scorpionz flying teh sky

YOLO
Murk Paradox
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#377 - 2013-10-08 16:43:49 UTC
March rabbit wrote:
Rob Crowley wrote:

Quote:
As I understand I cannot as I am not a part of a player alliance, additionally there are a limited number of slots, and furthermore a limited number of matches and players per match. The vast majority of the game is excluded from competing.
Well, I have to concede one small point: Since this year the rules about being in the alliance have not been stated in advance it was indeed not quite available to everyone. Though it was clear in advance that you would have to join an alliance at some point to compete. And of course generally not being in an alliance is your choice, it's not CCP excluding you personally.

And yeah, the competition for the AT obviously begins with getting one of the slots, which incidentally is a process known in advance where everyone has the same chance. CCP doesn't choose who gets those slots or who gets a place in the teams, so CCP doesn't exclude anyone (minus the alliance-less, and that only because the alliance participation rule wasn't stated in advance for this one AT).

there is one (BIG) problem: only pvp-oriented players can play and win AT.

In Eve Online Universe there is lot more what you can do: mining, trading, exploring, scamming, manufacturing, corp managing, thiefing, spying, etc.... And all these players who have chosen other paths to play this game are excluded from AT.

It's like maps for Counter-Strike when people only use sniper rifles. You can be pro at knifes, you can be pro at automatic rifles, but if you are weak at sniper rifles you will have bad time there.



That's simply not true. A lot of the skills needed to fly those ships in professions requiring a ship are core skills that apply to any/all ship.

You do not have to have 5mil sp in projectiles to participate in AT. You do, however, need to be able to sit in a hull, which can be done by anyone who has invested sp into any hull.

Doesn't mean you will be a winning QB in the AT, but don't be so disingenuous. It's a team effort and even a tracking disruptor or a dampener can help.

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Guttripper
State War Academy
Caldari State
#378 - 2013-10-08 16:45:51 UTC
raven666wings wrote:
Guyz it's all good...

Let's all give hands with CCP and Blink and sing Kumba-Ya while watching shiny Scorpionz flying teh sky

YOLO

Hard to hold hands when the Captain Quarter's door has not opened yet...
Shai 'Hulud
#379 - 2013-10-08 16:49:43 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Mabelaba wrote:
Malcanis wrote:

And for all those people jumping on Jester for pointing this out, remember he's also the one that got us the warp speed changes that are going to make a massive difference to the way the game is actually played and will continue to do so until long after this teacup-based storm has been utterly forgotten (ie: Next month)


Yeah like we have forgotten the T20 - T2 BPO scandal ...


That actually was a scandal. It was scandalous. This is merely people making hay out of a legit, generous but somewhat clumsily executed gesture.

So T20 would have been fine if it was done under the guise of a reward for contributions to the community?

The most useful slaves are those that believe themselves to be free
Murk Paradox
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#380 - 2013-10-08 16:56:10 UTC
Signal11th wrote:


Again, talk to something else then? If I have a problem with my car I don't go and talk to a plumber. It's a group of people on the CSM not all of them understand every aspect of the world of EVE so try someone who you think does.



So you're saying that Malcanis is a plumber in a discussion about car repair?

Why is he the only CSM posting here then?

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