EVE New Citizens Q&A

So I've been dabbling around with this char going through the Amarr starter missions and getting 3/4 of the way through the SoE mission chain (though I'm focused on getting my general skills to all 4's and 5's, so Amarr doesn't have to be my only option)

As my current subscription nears its end, I'm trying to plan out what I might be able to do in EVE with teh requirements of my out of game lifestyle, so decided to come to the forums for advice

(puts on flameproof suit)

Here's my situation - I LOVE the concept of EVE, the graphics, the sandbox openness, the friendly players (at least in the E-Uni channel). However, having three active kids and a demanding workplace, I find that I can at most spare 2 nights a week (maybe 3-4 if I try really hard) just to play, and there are times during those nights where I might be called away unexpectedly to deal with one crisis or another.

I WANT to get into PvP (most likely FW to start), and would love to be part of a gang / organized group (Love being "healer" (repper) and "Crowd Control" (EWAR / Tackler) based on the roles I like to play in other games (sniper could be an option also, sooo many choices!).

My main concern is what I posted above, I don't see how much value i could be to a group if I have to bail with a 5 - 10 minute warning to a group (outside of combat of course). I want to be part of a strong, lively community, I want to be able to enjoy the pulse-pounding experience of PvP, but I don't want to drag anyone else down in the process due to non-game needs.

Thus my questions:

1) With the above preferences and out of game situation effectively rule me out of being abler to participate in any non-solo PvP, or should I just plan on mission running / salvaging / exploring with the understanding that I may not be able to fully complete a given mission if I get called away?

CAVEAT: If I can't PvP, I'd be willing to try group-based PvE if that's a better fit. Just have found if I'm solo in a game I don't last long.

2) Are there any FW corps out there that would be willing to work with someone inexperienced with EVE, yet very willing to learn?

If I won't be able to PvP / group effectively I'll just let my sub lapse until I am able to devote more time to the game.

Thoughts?

Most of the bigger corps have an interview to see if you fit in their playstyle and will understand your situations. I have corp mates that are in a similar situation and I myself am not having the time to play as I'd like lately.

I know how you feel because I feel kind of bad for not being able to join my corp mates in activities due to "unstable game time" sorf of say. I have thinked on going for FW as a backup plan, although I haven't tried it yet I think it supports better a casual playstyle since you can joing your faction channel and ask if anyone need support to hold a spot. The other thing I think that may work is Red vs Blue and the Bombers Bar chat channel, since just like FW there might be people and fleets 24/7 available to form fleets with.

I'd only recommend you don't take a role that is trivial to the gang success such as tackling for instance.

Thanks for the inputs so far, what about the PvE option? Though not my 1st preference, would that make for a better fit to my current time situation?

For PvP you can dock up anywhere in lowsec or NPC nullsec on low notice. Roams deep into hostile Sov Null or WH space would be more difficult, but you can cloak up in Sov Null and you can scan your way out in WHS.

If you join Eve Uni you can easily join or even lead fleets. Other good 'starter corps' to check out would be Red vs Blue or Brave Newbies. They're very accommodating to a lot of different play styles.

For PVE I would look at passive income sources if you have limited time. Low skillpoint examples are hauling skillbooks, trading, or planetary interaction. Later on you can look at things like moon mining (recently nerfed), reaction towers (IDK anything about this), or various industry. I would suggest looking into market trading.

If you have a high paying job then you may want to just buy plex. A plex is 15-20$ for 500+mil isk and most PvE is far below 500mil/hr.

FW is frequently a point where new players start PVPing. You can gain LP and make ISK that way and gain PVP when you are flying in a fleet.

Many corporations take newer players typically +1 months old due to trial accounts etc, and even if you are new you can be put into tackling or support.

RVB is a highsec alliance/corporation/community where you can PVP contently solo or in fleets.

0.0 is completely different, typically much larger gangs and much quieter depending where you are. Some players dislike 0.0 PVP so If you wanted to I'd know more about it before going into 0.0 and hating it.

I'm sure you can find infomation on what each area is like and which corp will be best. GL

Thanks for all the great replies! Sounds like RvB might be a great way to start.
How do I get involved with them? More importantly how do most of them afford it?
The pled selling idea is a good one, but I'd like to see if I can avoid that route at first?

Read somewhere that one advantage of FW was that it was profitable enough that replacings ships and fits
was fairly easy, does RvB work the same way?

I know the feeling. I used to be able to play all day every day and led fleets back in the day but now get called away at random times. Solo is one good way to deal with the unpredictability of real life, however small gangs of friends where they know you need to get called away from time to time are the types of people youre looking for I think. Feel free to convo/mail me ingame and I'll try to help where I can.

Trying to finance your playing time with plex and not being able to play a lot - would seem to me to be incompatible.

I'd look at how long it took you earn enough money to buy one and then see how that fits in with your playing schedule.

If you can't afford $15 a month ... you probably can't afford to play this game.


For myself - I quit a year ago - for just the reasons you cite. My RL situation has changed - and I cannot now do anything without being constantly interrupted. Mining works fairly well if I do it in high sec - but with a lot of other things it doesn't.

Here - how much time you've got to secure your ship matters. If you have to just jump up and leave as I sometimes do - even PVE isn't very good as the rats will kill your ship. If you try to PVP that way ... you are going to get a reputation as someone who can't be counted on.

Other games are much more forgiving of going AFK unexpectedly. WoW and Planetside 2 are completely different games - but there is no Real Loss in those games. In EVE - you have Real Loss. That ship took money to buy and that money took time to make. So if you lose it - you have really lost the part of your life you devoted to earning that in game money. Of course - hopefully - you had fun making the money - and that part isn't lost. But the ship is.

Now - losing ships is part of playing EVE - but losing them repeatedly for stupid reasons like having to go AFK ... becomes something else ...

Gotta go ... RL is calling ....

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Basically...NO.

you stated you cant play much.


And you want to make 500mil for a PLEX AND have enough income for PvP (which require ISK for replacement of losses).

Good luck with that.

If you cant afford 15 Euro/Dollar, and have very limited gametime. Then EVE as you want it might not be for you.

The guy is a new player. He's not even close to being able to do this.

And - 5-10 minutes warning? Don't you understand - you may not get ANY warning. You get called away from the game immediately to deal with some RL situation - over and over and over again ... that is ... I do. What the OP can do ... I don't know ... *shrug* that's his call ... If he wants - he can give it a try and just see how it goes.