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New Raven Skin - Vote and commentary

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Aurelius Valentius
Valentius Corporation
Valentius Corporation Alliance
#1 - 2011-11-16 03:25:21 UTC
Greetings,

The New Raven Skin is out on SISI. I think it is a tad washed out compaired to all the other Caldari skins there - I would like to see more contrast in the dark and the lighter gray/greys on the hull, when you look at the others you may see this as well.

Figured someone should post up a commentary on it and see what comes of it - I would like to see our new raven with a stunning premier and so chime in... commetary and even post some pics, if you really feel the urge to hit the Tri-exporter and some skin mods have at it...

My vote:

X - looks good, needs a bit more love on the skin and I think it is a tad shiny and lacks some contrast. but otherwise I think WIN maybe a tad more on the bump map (if EVE has them for more defined edges and surface items.
Katrina Oniseki
Oniseki-Raata Internal Watch
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#2 - 2011-11-16 06:57:33 UTC
Needs a bit higher resolution on the front 'nose' thing. Textures look stretched. Everything else looks great.

Katrina Oniseki
Talon SilverHawk
Patria o Muerte
#3 - 2011-11-16 10:51:07 UTC
Needs to have something in the design to show this is a missile specialist, i.e Drake with the launch bays built into the skin,

As we don't have launchers we should have at least a clue in the skin. Some one tell me where in that design missiles launch from ?

Not enough imagination gone into the new design, Its a boring featureless flying brick with no clue for its function.


CCP have done some good with all the new stuff :) but its a wasted opportunity for the Raven redesign really. : (

Tal

Jada Maroo
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2011-11-16 13:29:46 UTC
Aurelius Valentius wrote:
Greetings,

The New Raven Skin is out on SISI. I think it is a tad washed out compaired to all the other Caldari skins there - I would like to see more contrast in the dark and the lighter gray/greys on the hull, when you look at the others you may see this as well.


I don't think the texture is entirely finished. Every other Caldari texture (except the Naga, which is still being worked on and in the same state as the Raven) has the variation in shades of light and dark that you're looking for. Just wait for the final version, it'll be the same.
Krell Kroenen
The Devil's Shadow
#5 - 2011-11-16 15:39:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Krell Kroenen
Talon SilverHawk wrote:
Needs to have something in the design to show this is a missile specialist, i.e Drake with the launch bays built into the skin,

As we don't have launchers we should have at least a clue in the skin. Some one tell me where in that design missiles launch from ?

Not enough imagination gone into the new design, Its a boring featureless flying brick with no clue for its function.


CCP have done some good with all the new stuff :) but its a wasted opportunity for the Raven redesign really. : (

Tal



Well if I am not mistaken CCP wants to add missile hard points some day, to be akin to turrets. But I agree I am disappointed by the out come of the "new" Raven. It just seems they upped the poly count tweaked the engines a little and gave it a neck beard.

It still looks like it was made from left over parts they had laying around which I thought was suppose to be a Minmatar trait.
Alsyth
#6 - 2011-11-16 16:15:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Alsyth
Not different enough to justify the time spent on it in my opinion :x I would have liked it to be really different, like the new Scorpion.
Oberine Noriepa
#7 - 2011-11-16 16:26:41 UTC
I like it.

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Klandi
Consortium of stella Technologies
#8 - 2011-11-16 16:59:41 UTC

As we all know in the future, missiles materialize from the bottom of the ship so graphics for launcher bays aren't really required. In this enlightened Eve age we live in, this is an accepted fact - just like being towed into a station is the height of technical excellence!!

/end sarcasm

I am aware of my own ignorance and have checked my emotional quotient - thanks for asking
Rixiu
PonyTek
#9 - 2011-11-16 17:28:38 UTC
I like it, dat ass...

Alsyth wrote:
Not different enough to justify the time spent on it in my opinion :x I would have liked it to be really different, like the new Scorpion.


So you want a ship that looks like a raven?

http://www.startrek.com/legacy_media/images/200303/tos-009-romulan-bird-of-prey/320x240.jpg

There is a ship painted as a bird, still want a ship that looks like a bird?
Pierced Brosmen
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2011-11-16 19:26:45 UTC
I like the new raven, especialy the Golem.

BUT.... with the general change to the caldari navy ships, the navy raven looks like it was built out of lego, with randomly colored blocks... it looks aweful :(
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#11 - 2011-11-16 19:56:11 UTC
Talon SilverHawk wrote:
Needs to have something in the design to show this is a missile specialist, i.e Drake with the launch bays built into the skin,

As we don't have launchers we should have at least a clue in the skin. Some one tell me where in that design missiles launch from ?

Not enough imagination gone into the new design, Its a boring featureless flying brick with no clue for its function.


CCP have done some good with all the new stuff :) but its a wasted opportunity for the Raven redesign really. : (

Tal



They're considering giving us missile turrets which means the drake will have to be redone as well.

Unlike the previous raven though this ship feels that much more dangerous now, very battelship worthy now with enough fire control to be able to launch and control vollies of missiles.

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Dalloway Jones
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2011-11-16 22:03:07 UTC
As far as I am concerned the only problem with the old Raven was it had a really low poly count compared to some other ships. While I normally think that most of the Caldari subcaps are hideous the Raven was one of the more interesting models despite its asymmetry. The new version has kept its character but improved the look of the model. I approve.

Save the total redesign from the ground up for the Moa and the Bantam.
Loni Elahhez
Perkone
Caldari State
#13 - 2011-11-16 22:10:02 UTC
For those in doubt what the new raven looks like. here's some pics of a golem. which has the same graphics but different color.

http://eve.dguild.eu/images/crusiblegolem/1.jpg
http://eve.dguild.eu/images/crusiblegolem/2.jpg
http://eve.dguild.eu/images/crusiblegolem/3.jpg
http://eve.dguild.eu/images/crusiblegolem/4.jpg
http://eve.dguild.eu/images/crusiblegolem/5.jpg

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Talon SilverHawk
Patria o Muerte
#14 - 2011-11-17 17:14:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Talon SilverHawk
Nova Fox wrote:
Talon SilverHawk wrote:
Needs to have something in the design to show this is a missile specialist, i.e Drake with the launch bays built into the skin,

As we don't have launchers we should have at least a clue in the skin. Some one tell me where in that design missiles launch from ?

Not enough imagination gone into the new design, Its a boring featureless flying brick with no clue for its function.


CCP have done some good with all the new stuff :) but its a wasted opportunity for the Raven redesign really. : (

Tal



They're considering giving us missile turrets which means the drake will have to be redone as well.

Unlike the previous raven though this ship feels that much more dangerous now, very battelship worthy now with enough fire control to be able to launch and control vollies of missiles.



Yeah but I spend endless time looking at the Raven models new and old guessing where missiles launch from on it, its starting to annoy me now : )


I'll just repeat it one more time though they have been considering missile turrets for years nothing yet but soon (tm) : (. So this was a good chance to give the new model and skin some sort of clue towards missiles.

Tal
Sirinda
Ekchuah's Shrine Comporium
#15 - 2011-11-17 18:16:20 UTC
I like the new skin, the model's ****, though.
Shawn Pierce
Live For This
#16 - 2011-11-17 18:27:40 UTC
The new skin looks okay and all, but...

The uber-asymmetric Caldari models suck. Where on that model would you mount the missile turrets and have them follow a target in a realistic manner?

The Raven and other asymmetrical ships need to be redone in the style of the Scorpion. Not necessarily looking like their namesake, of course. They can have small projections here and there, but the main hull should be far more symmetrical. They're already experimenting with the Condor/Raptor/Crow in this manner.
Talon SilverHawk
Patria o Muerte
#17 - 2011-11-17 18:28:14 UTC
I know where they got the Raven nose now, check the nose on the Tengu using the Emergent Locus Analyser (spelt the correct way for any Americans out there : P )

Tal

Shawn Pierce
Live For This
#18 - 2011-11-17 18:37:34 UTC
Talon SilverHawk wrote:
(spelt the correct way for any Americans out there : P )

Hey now...

We Americans don't speak/type English. We speak/type American. Evidently CCP does too. : P
CCP Vertex
C C P
C C P Alliance
#19 - 2011-11-17 21:30:28 UTC
The ship has been worked on considerably this week, check out the updated textures on Singularity tomorrow.

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Krell Kroenen
The Devil's Shadow
#20 - 2011-11-17 21:55:28 UTC
CCP Vertex wrote:
The ship has been worked on considerably this week, check out the updated textures on Singularity tomorrow.


So has the model been worked on or just the textures?
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