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AFK Rattler drone module advice
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Fozzy Dorsai
Friendly but Irritating
#1 - 2011-11-15 22:56:06 UTC
I use a Rattlesnake for those times when I need to AFK a mission (at work, cooking dinner, asleep, etc.). For this I use Heavy drones and a carebear tank. That still usually leaves me between 2 and 4 mid-slots available. I'm wondering what combination of Drone Navigation Computers and Omnidirectional Tracking Links I should use (or something else).
I was thinking of using even amounts of both, and if an odd number to use more DNCs so the Ogres can run around faster.
Y'all have any better ideas?
Remember, this is AFK, so I want to come back to find all the rats dead with no intervening input from me. Given that, I'd like them dead sooner than later.
Goose99
#2 - 2011-11-15 23:09:09 UTC
Fozzy Dorsai wrote:
I use a Rattlesnake for those times when I need to AFK a mission (at work, cooking dinner, asleep, etc.). For this I use Heavy drones and a carebear tank. That still usually leaves me between 2 and 4 mid-slots available. I'm wondering what combination of Drone Navigation Computers and Omnidirectional Tracking Links I should use (or something else).
I was thinking of using even amounts of both, and if an odd number to use more DNCs so the Ogres can run around faster.
Y'all have any better ideas?
Remember, this is AFK, so I want to come back to find all the rats dead with no intervening input from me. Given that, I'd like them dead sooner than later.


3 onmis and a sentry dmg rig. Use sentries.
Fozzy Dorsai
Friendly but Irritating
#3 - 2011-11-15 23:43:52 UTC
I quite understand the love for sentries. I did forget to add that in multi-room missions, I want to be able to release the drones, head toward the next gate, go fishing, come back, find all rats dead, recall drones, jump and repeat. Because of this, sentries are not as good as heavies as they just won't come when you ask them to 40 clicks away.
My bad for not setting up the scenario better.
Desudes
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2011-11-16 00:18:47 UTC
T1 ogres with 2 omni's were killing frigates faster then t2 lights/mediums were as I recall. Been a while since I used heavy drones though. I'd split the difference like you said, especially if DNC have diminishing returns, I don't know if they do.

Go do a few missions and see: are your drones spending a long time killing things or are they spending their time zipping around? Use the module that fixes the problem that arises.

Excuse me, but what the f*ck are you desu?
Fozzy Dorsai
Friendly but Irritating
#5 - 2011-11-16 00:22:35 UTC
Probably not a bad idea to just test it live. Maybe I'll farm a mission and run it a number of ways this week to see which combo works best: 2/0, 1/1, or 0/2.
Kaanchana
Tax-haven
#6 - 2011-11-16 02:38:10 UTC
AFAIK omni's are only useful for sentries and not for heavies. DNC's may be better than omni's in your case. However having 2 omni's will help if you suddenly get the urge to use sentries in some single room missions while watching a movie or something.. So if you have nothing else to use, having 2 omni's on a drone boat is always good..
Thaddaus Dieneces
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#7 - 2011-11-16 05:49:29 UTC
If you are flying a Rattlesnake it should easily have over 200,000 EHP and passive rep shields as good if not better than a Drake

Stupid people should suffer, I'm OK with that.
Takeshi Zakharov
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2011-11-16 09:14:53 UTC
Kaanchana wrote:
AFAIK omni's are only useful for sentries and not for heavies. DNC's may be better than omni's in your case. However having 2 omni's will help if you suddenly get the urge to use sentries in some single room missions while watching a movie or something.. So if you have nothing else to use, having 2 omni's on a drone boat is always good..


omnis most certainly work on heavies and mediums, it's just their effect isn't as noticable. But if you're using heavies on BC or cruiser spawns theyre definately helpful.
Niko Takahashi
Yoshitomi Group
#9 - 2011-11-16 10:43:24 UTC
If you are going 2 slots for drone upgrades and are going to use heavy drones you have 2 problems.

1 Heavy Drones are slow as hell and the applied dps is diished by travel time.

2 The have problem tracking as well small ships and the applied damage suffers from this as well

Answer Fit one of both there is no stacking penalty they will move faster to the target and hit better when they get there.


:)
Khanh'rhh
Sparkle Motion.
#10 - 2011-11-16 11:21:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Khanh'rhh
Why use one fit?

Learn the missions (or at least learn2eve-survival) and check whether it is single, or multiroom.

Single room - sentries with omni's

Multiroom - Ogres with DNC's

Eventually you'll also notice some multiroom missions land you on the acceleration gate, so sentries are still viable.

I personally use a Gila to AFK missions, because Cruiser V took less time than Gallente BS 5 would have (for drone DPS) and it tanks about the same as a Rattler. It's also cheaper to lose if your drones primary the triggers each time :)

"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual,

Raven Ether
Doomheim
#11 - 2011-11-16 12:14:09 UTC
Since I'm also very interested in this set up.


Does anyone know if the omni tracking links and the drone nav computer can reduce performance?


Say high speed affects tracking, and the increased optimal from omnis causes problems ?

I mean, when the drones orbit their target, do they adjust to their (even bonused) optimal and default speed?
Khanh'rhh
Sparkle Motion.
#12 - 2011-11-16 13:35:17 UTC
Raven Ether wrote:
Since I'm also very interested in this set up.


Does anyone know if the omni tracking links and the drone nav computer can reduce performance?


Say high speed affects tracking, and the increased optimal from omnis causes problems ?

I mean, when the drones orbit their target, do they adjust to their (even bonused) optimal and default speed?


A DNC, as per the description, "Increases mwd speed of drones" - so once they are orbiting the target, speed is the same.

Fun fact though - some wormhole systems (blackholes) will increase your drone speed - which will result in a lot less applied DPS.

"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual,

Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2011-11-16 15:29:52 UTC
Khanh'rhh wrote:
Raven Ether wrote:
Since I'm also very interested in this set up.


Does anyone know if the omni tracking links and the drone nav computer can reduce performance?


Say high speed affects tracking, and the increased optimal from omnis causes problems ?

I mean, when the drones orbit their target, do they adjust to their (even bonused) optimal and default speed?


A DNC, as per the description, "Increases mwd speed of drones" - so once they are orbiting the target, speed is the same.

Fun fact though - some wormhole systems (blackholes) will increase your drone speed - which will result in a lot less applied DPS.



The additional unknown with this (hard to quantify) is that the increased MWD speed can, in some cases cause drones to overshoot their target and delay their time getting to optimal and firing.