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Why C2s are bad isk.
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KeeganWaffle
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2013-10-07 08:02:37 UTC
C2 sites arn't even remotly balanced on the isk vs danger scale mostly to poor site design.

There is no way to bring a decent amount of DPS to the site due to the necessarily far out spawn ranges. You always end up having to have some gimped-ass long range missile ship with no damage.
Tiffany Kautsuo
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#2 - 2013-10-07 08:06:24 UTC
I feel its perfectly fine for a starter venture and teaching newbies how to get their feet wet, sure your not going to get spacerich in a c2 but did you really think you would? Roll
KeeganWaffle
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2013-10-07 08:10:37 UTC
Tiffany Kautsuo wrote:
I feel its perfectly fine for a starter venture and teaching newbies how to get their feet wet, sure your not going to get spacerich in a c2 but did you really think you would? Roll


well, having 3 spawns that all are 100kms away form eacho ther leads to 300kms for burning around with a prop mod

That's just unnecessary...
Tiffany Kautsuo
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#4 - 2013-10-07 08:13:29 UTC
What has 3 spawns 100kms apart?
i know a few that can be 60+ if you burn in a bad direction
but hey, maybe they want to slow down your isk farming rate
Icarus Able
Refuse.Resist
#5 - 2013-10-07 08:35:25 UTC
Tiffany Kautsuo wrote:
What has 3 spawns 100kms apart?
i know a few that can be 60+ if you burn in a bad direction
but hey, maybe they want to slow down your isk farming rate



You dont need to slow C2 isk making down you are lucky to make better isk than L4s.
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#6 - 2013-10-07 08:46:32 UTC
c2 sites are easily the worst isk in WH space but living in a c2 is highly profitable since you should be running sites in your c3-4 static

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Glyndi
Doom Generation
Best Intentions.
#7 - 2013-10-07 16:49:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Glyndi
In addition to Jack Mitons suggestion, we often will run low/null complexes for the dead space lewts. Rarely will your primary isk flow come from your home hole, even more true in a lower class wh.



**Edited for smart phone retardation(sp)
Bernie Nator
Seal Club Six
Plug N Play
#8 - 2013-10-07 17:45:05 UTC
Jack Miton wrote:
c2 sites are easily the worst isk in WH space but living in a c2 is highly profitable since you should be running sites in your c3-4 static

Beat me to it. Abuse your static for risk making/pew pew and leave the home sites as bait.
Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2013-10-07 18:27:27 UTC
Bernie Nator wrote:
Jack Miton wrote:
c2 sites are easily the worst isk in WH space but living in a c2 is highly profitable since you should be running sites in your c3-4 static

Beat me to it. Abuse your static for risk making/pew pew and leave the home sites as bait.



This again.

C2's are balanced by being the only dual static class in the game. So you have easy access to both K-space and farming space.

Cry more.
Malcolm Shinhwa
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2013-10-07 19:26:38 UTC
KeeganWaffle wrote:
You always end up having to have some gimped-ass long range missile ship with no damage.


I don't bring a "gimped-ass long range missle ship", I bring a friend. Its more fun that way.

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Erica Dusette
Division 13
#11 - 2013-10-07 20:03:42 UTC
Dunno about needing a gimped long range ship, standard old Drake always worked fine for us, HM or even HAM if you don't mind burning around a little. *shrug* Easy to solo, even easier with an alt/friend in support.

You're right that it's not the best ISK hole, but we're not really there for the money ourselves (bit impractical anyway seeing as we share with 2 other corps - C2 doesn't stretch very far!). In any event if you farm your static effectively you can still make decent money.

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Lloyd Roses
Artificial Memories
#12 - 2013-10-08 16:18:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Lloyd Roses
Pretty sure people will soon start farming those sites with AFK-ravens and rapid heavy FoF-missiles <.<

Only way to bear with it.
Marsan
#13 - 2013-10-09 01:21:06 UTC
I'm not sure what C2 sites the OP is talking about. The sleeper generally spawn really fairly close, and the ones that don't tend to zoom in. Maybe they are trying to run the sites with autocannons, pulses and hams? Smart people use sentry drones, hm, cm, and rails. Also other than the battleships the sleeper's in the C2 sites die quickly enough.

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Svodola Darkfury
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2013-10-09 05:54:09 UTC
Marsan wrote:
I'm not sure what C2 sites the OP is talking about. The sleeper generally spawn really fairly close, and the ones that don't tend to zoom in. Maybe they are trying to run the sites with autocannons, pulses and hams? Smart people use sentry drones, hm, cm, and rails. Also other than the battleships the sleeper's in the C2 sites die quickly enough.


He should probably consider warping to 0 instead of thinking that warping to 100 will save him from ganks.

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Andrew Indy
Cleaning Crew
#15 - 2013-10-11 05:33:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Andrew Indy
The problem with C2 is that the blue loot is very low value and unlike C1 you cant blitz them for ribbons. I find that the BS's are pretty tanky for the isk return and thats the main time sink.

The sites themselves are to that bad , my Pulse Legion does them just fine when I'm waiting for the C3 fleet to form up and I'm never out of scorch range (38km) other than maybe for the first 30 seconds at the start.