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TFK Killermaster
The Flying Killers
#401 - 2013-10-07 16:13:43 UTC  |  Edited by: TFK Killermaster
who has since, crap again thought of that?
you give the ships a new design, for what?
you just exchanged the cases known ships ships known to others!
what is it now, now be so great?
you go about the ideas, for new ship designs from? or why are you doing the crap, because you have no buck, finally attack the right subjects, are already long on the list??
I am totally disappointed by YOU CCP.
This crap anyway you can save you, or if you have it then makes at least, really, with all new hulls!!

wer hat sich denn, den mist wieder ausgedacht ?
ihr gebt den schiffen ein neues design, wofür ?
ihr tauscht einfach nur die hüllen bekannter schiffe gegen andere bekannte schiffe!
was soll daran jetzt, nun so toll sein ?
gehen euch etwa die ideen, für neue schiffsdesigns aus ? oder macht ihr deswegen den mist, weil ihr kein bock habt, endlich mal die richtigen themen anzugreifen, die schon lange auf der liste stehen ?????
ich bin total enttäuscht, von EUCH CCP.
Diesen Mist jedenfalls könnt Ihr euch sparen, oder wenn ihr es schon macht dann wenigstens, richtig mit komplett neuen Schiffshüllen!!!!


TFK

sorry google translator is screwy
Katherine Raven
ALTA Industries
Intergalactic Conservation Movement
#402 - 2013-10-07 16:41:53 UTC
TFK Killermaster wrote:
who has since, crap again thought of that?
you give the ships a new design, for what?
you just exchanged the cases known ships ships known to others!
what is it now, now be so great?
you go about the ideas, for new ship designs from? or why are you doing the crap, because you have no buck, finally attack the right subjects, are already long on the list??
I am totally disappointed by YOU CCP.
This crap anyway you can save you, or if you have it then makes at least, really, with all new hulls!!




TFK



What?
Invictor
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#403 - 2013-10-07 17:11:06 UTC
Dev time spent on changes that are not needed.

AGAIN.

A big backlog of stuff that has been broken for years. The only thing that needs changing is your approach to your customers

CCP - you are a joke
NFain
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#404 - 2013-10-07 17:12:25 UTC
NOOOOOOOOOO I love the ships the way they are. I think the ships have their own unique character with the tier 1 models. It gives them a unique style and class that only comes with command ships.

If anything please make their own models if you want to move away from the tier one models. I think the tier 2 models look horrible for a t2 version. They're so overused, i don't want a black and red drake, i don't want a drake period honestly. Keep the uniqueness of these ships away from the overused battle-cruisers. Please keep these ships rarity and uniqueness alive.
Yaturi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#405 - 2013-10-07 17:16:32 UTC
What is wrong with you guys. Its a freaking database ID swap. What TIME are you guys whining about?

Using the same ship model for the command ships is redundant and boring. Go through with the changes Fozzie.

such nerdism itt
Slykar
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#406 - 2013-10-07 17:32:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Slykar
Harbinger new Abso???? ugly UGLY!!!

i dont want to fly it with a harbinger hull !

Chandaris wrote:
If you change my sleipnir model I am going to start shooting at that jita statue again. you already took my zebra stripes you bastards.


and i help you

TFK Killermaster wrote:
who has since, crap again thought of that?
you give the ships a new design, for what?
you just exchanged the cases known ships ships known to others!
what is it now, now be so great?
you go about the ideas, for new ship designs from? or why are you doing the crap, because you have no buck, finally attack the right subjects, are already long on the list??
I am totally disappointed by YOU CCP.
This crap anyway you can save you, or if you have it then makes at least, really, with all new hulls!!

wer hat sich denn, den mist wieder ausgedacht ?
ihr gebt den schiffen ein neues design, wofür ?
ihr tauscht einfach nur die hüllen bekannter schiffe gegen andere bekannte schiffe!
was soll daran jetzt, nun so toll sein ?
gehen euch etwa die ideen, für neue schiffsdesigns aus ? oder macht ihr deswegen den mist, weil ihr kein bock habt, endlich mal die richtigen themen anzugreifen, die schon lange auf der liste stehen ?????
ich bin total enttäuscht, von EUCH CCP.
Diesen Mist jedenfalls könnt Ihr euch sparen, oder wenn ihr es schon macht dann wenigstens, richtig mit komplett neuen Schiffshüllen!!!!


TFK

sorry google translator is screwy



totaly right

dont waste ur time with unneed changes

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NFain
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#407 - 2013-10-07 17:40:42 UTC
I also find it funny that Everyone who actively flies these ships, doesn't want the change. And everyone who doesn't, does.

People who fly it > People who don't.
Slykar
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#408 - 2013-10-07 17:49:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Slykar
why CCP dont add both design to the game and we can build both types ? everyone will be happy




Rule 1: dont touch a running system !

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Madnews
Gangbang-Gang
#409 - 2013-10-07 18:00:03 UTC
Pleas do not Changes the Models.
I love my Absolution
Please Please let desing as it is.
Daggaroth
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#410 - 2013-10-07 18:45:07 UTC
I had to logon from work to say:

Please do not change the looks of the current command ships.

The Nighthawk is currently using the Ferox hull. In my opinion one of the most deadly and down right iconic looking hulls in the game. Missiles coming off the nighthawk look incredible and if switched to the drake hull, you would just have a reskinned drake that shoots more powerful missiles and not something new when upgrading from Drake to Nighthawk.

The Absolution, kinda looks like a bloated eagle, and quite honestly I wouldn't mind the skin changing but if I am going to defend one I should probably defend them all.

The Sleipnir is so darn warrior like compared to the hurricane, it looks like you could physically click it up and club someone over the head. If switched to the hurricane, that big deadly space train / space club would disappear into

The Eos, I have never flown so I can't really defend it, but I think the big brutix nose suits a command ship look and presence a bit more then the Myrm.

If I had to defend just one, it would be the Sleipnir, and if I had to defend just two it would be the Sleipnir and the Nighthawk. I am rather conflicted as I think the Absolution and Eos might be improvements but the Sleipnir and Nighthawk would be great detractions from what make those ships look so darn iconic and part of why they are fun to fly.

Anyway this is my feedback and I hope you will read it and take it into consideration when moving forward.
Irac Ranon
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#411 - 2013-10-07 18:46:57 UTC
I really don't like the model change for the Absolution... It's the ship that got me playing EVE.
I love the Prophecy, especially in red and gold. It's like a bad joke that you are changing it into
an ugly Harbinger just before I'm able to fly it. Sad
Isn't there a possibility to keep the old Absolution model?
jwingender
Tar Valon Research and Development
#412 - 2013-10-07 18:51:28 UTC
NFain wrote:
I also find it funny that Everyone who actively flies these ships, doesn't want the change. And everyone who doesn't, does.

People who fly it > People who don't.


I fly the Sleipnir and Eos and wholeheartedly support these changes. Blanket statements about other people's opinions are bad m'kay. Try speaking just for yourself in the future.

This change makes complete sense. T2 ships should be based on their T1 hull. I.e. Eos getting the myrmidon hull, etc. Having a drone ship with a Brutix hull is dumb. Missile spewing ship with a Ferox hull, ********.

I just wonder how many nice things we wouldn't have if CCP actually listened to all the "HELL NO!!11!2" doom-and-gloomers.
Fasturian Icildentirf
Malevelon Roe Industries
Convocation of Empyreans
#413 - 2013-10-07 18:59:30 UTC
This change is logical even if some of the hulls are a little ugly.
If it matters I fly the Sleipnir and love the ship, and definitely won't mind it no longer being a space train.
I also fly the Absolution and am not thrilled about the change to the Harbinger hull, but the command ships actually matching the hulls of the most similar Tech 1 battlecruisers is something I have been wanting before CCP even said anything.

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Viziam
Amarr Empire
#414 - 2013-10-07 19:18:25 UTC
Just got back from the Sisi. The Absolution looks like a giant dildo right now. I want my chicken back.
Solhild
Doomheim
#415 - 2013-10-07 19:31:17 UTC
On Sisi - warming to the sleipnir as a cane but would prefer a fresh model - camo actually looks great!
NFain
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#416 - 2013-10-07 19:55:22 UTC  |  Edited by: NFain
jwingender wrote:
NFain wrote:
I also find it funny that Everyone who actively flies these ships, doesn't want the change. And everyone who doesn't, does.

People who fly it > People who don't.


I fly the Sleipnir and Eos and wholeheartedly support these changes. Blanket statements about other people's opinions are bad m'kay. Try speaking just for yourself in the future.

This change makes complete sense. T2 ships should be based on their T1 hull. I.e. Eos getting the myrmidon hull, etc. Having a drone ship with a Brutix hull is dumb. Missile spewing ship with a Ferox hull, ********.

I just wonder how many nice things we wouldn't have if CCP actually listened to all the "HELL NO!!11!2" doom-and-gloomers.


Why would you want to change some of the most iconic ships in eve to overused hulls we see each and every day? Please keep in mind the character of your ships that the hulls themselves give them. Why do you want another Hurricane fleet issue? The Brutix honestly is such an Iconic hull for the Eos. My fondest memory in eve that made me forever fall in love with Commands was an pre-nerf Green and grey Eos approaching my caracal, blasters blazing and it's ogre II's ripping me apart. It's just not the same with a myrmidon.

Seriously think about the character you're giving these ships. All tier two battle cruisers do is die in a fire each and everyday, they feel and look flimsy. They're overused for each and every task, and they just have this cheap feeling attached to them.

The less used tier 1 battle-cruisers are so much better suited to these ships. Tier 1 Battle-cruisers look and feel tough, even though they aren't, their character is get in there, get the job done, and get out. The hulls tell a story for these ships that the tier 2s just don't.
Delhaven
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#417 - 2013-10-07 22:06:19 UTC
I never did like the way the Brutix looked. On the other hand, the Myrmidon is one of my favourite ships. So to me, it's a no brainer to switch the Eos.
TFK Killermaster
The Flying Killers
#418 - 2013-10-07 23:35:25 UTC  |  Edited by: TFK Killermaster
Post 1/2

CCP Fozzie wrote:

I know this is going to generate a lot of strong feelings due to nostalgia and I share many of those feelings. However I truly think these new versions look amazing and that in the long run this is a change that people will look back on as an obvious positive.
Let us know what you think.



German


Was soll das ?
Bei jedem Patch werden irgendwelche Schiffshüllen verändert oder bestehende Hüllen, anderen Schiffen zugeordnet.
Das ist eine emense Verschwendung von Entwicklungszeit und ISK, die sagt mir mein Gefühl.
Was soll daran positiv sein das ich mich viele Jahre an ein Schiffsdesign gewöhnt habe und ihr total lustlos einfach mal die Hüllen tauscht. Sorry das hört sich für mich nach 0815 Redesign an und nicht nach Neuentwicklung.
Warum werden nicht endlich mal die Sachen angegangen die uns Spielern schon so lange auf den Magen schlägt.
Wofür wurde damals der Schiffsdesignwettbewerb ins Leben gerufen ???
Da gab es so viele tolle Designs die man hätte in Eve Umsetzen können.
Ich weis echt nicht was der Unsinn, den ihr da veranstaltet eigentlich soll.
Ich weis ja nicht wie lange Eure Creativlosen Schiffdesigner aktuell brauchen um ein neues Schiffsdesign zu entwickeln.
Ich für mein Teil würde sagen mit 3D Studio Max benötige ich ca. 5 Stunden für eine komplett neue Schiffhülle im Low Poligon Mesh. eventuell noch weitere 5 Stunden für ein entsprechendes Skindesign im DDS Format.

Wenn Ihr keine Ideen mehr für doppelte Schiffshüllen habt, dann fragt die Community, Hier gibt es mehr als genug Creative Köpfe die gern Ihr eigenes Schiffsdesign in EVE wieder sehen würden. Also veranstaltet doch mal wieder einen Wettbewerb in diese Richtung und holt Euch da neue Hüllen, für die Commandschiffe und andere Schiffe die aktuell in doppelter Form schon total sinnlos existieren. Diese könnt Ihr ja dann im nächsten Patch so einfließen lassen sodas viele sich darüber freuen werden mal komplett neue Designs zu sehen.

Dinge die endlich mal umgesetzt werden müssen!!!

1. BUGS korrigieren !!!!!!!!
2. Posstrukturumbau
3. Corp Rechte System schon ewig überfällig !!!! Das alte ist eine Katastrophe.....
4. Walking on Station endlich umsetzen !!! Seit der ersten Ankündigung warte ich auch Ergebnisse .......
5. Ich hab mit CCP Phantom in Köln lang und breit über einige Ideen und bekannte Probleme gesprochen.
Ich sehe nicht einen Punkt davon in der Patchliste das sich da irgendwas daran geändert hätte.....
Was ist mit dem Personal Hanga Array, wann wird es endlich mal richtig einsatzfähig sodas man es sinnvoll nutzen
kann. Ohne das die Member Ihr Material verlieren wenn es abgebaut wird ?
6. Wo bleibt den mal ein Gegenstück zum PHA , z.B. ein Personal Shipmaintaince Array ????
7. Ich warte immer noch auf Alliance Bookmarks....

Überflüßiges...

1. Was zum geier soll das mit den Zertifikaten ? Das ist sowas von total überflüßig !!!!
Ich habe 0 Nutzen davon. Ich kann weder mit Zertifikaten, PVP betreiben noch ISK verdienen. Viele sagen das selbe,
TOTAL überflüßig!!!!!
2. Ihr sagt ihr wollt das Game Anfängerfreundlicher machen ??? Was hat ein Anfänger davon wenn er sieht welche Schiffe
er nicht fliegen kann? NICHTS !!! Er muss diese trotzdem Skillen und dafür haben wir den Markt und den Skillbaum um
zu sehen wie weit wir sind.
3. Schiffshüllen tausch


Viel überflüßiges Zeug, wo jede Menge Zeit und Geld verschwendet werden, anstatt endlich mal die Baustellen anzugreifen die Ihr schon Jahre lang vor Euch herschiebt und nicht vollendet.
Nein mit jedem halben Jahr was verstreicht sieht man wieder neue Baustellen die Ihr Euch selber schafft und nicht finalisiert.

Es mag sein das viele hier anders darüber denken, aber viele sehen es auch genauso wie ich, dass Ihr total an der Community vorbei entwickelt!
Wofür fragt Ihr uns eigentlich überhaupt noch was wir davon finden.
Ihr schaft Euch doch eh nur neue Baustellen und geht nie wirklich auf die Community ein.

Ihr solltet Euch mal langsam am Riemen reißen und schauen das Eure ganzen Buggy Baustellen finalisiert werden.
Denn sonst müsst Ihr Euch bald keine Sorgen mehr um Anfängerfreundlichkeit machen sondern, wie halten wir unsere langjährigen Spieler bei der Stange damit diese nicht zu anderen Spielen abwandern......!!!!!!
Aber wenn Ihr kein Interesse daran habt den Spielern was sinnvolles zu Präsentieren dann fahrt Euren Server herunter und entlasst sämtliche Mitarbeiter schließt die Firma und beendet dieses Game mit einem Schlag.

Oder denkt mal darüber nach, endlich mal Eure Baustellen zu beenden, worauf die Community schon lange wartet !!!!!!!!

Sorry people, but this **** here with me also generated very strong negative feelings. That is why I write the Google translater use in my native language and unfortunately it has
TFK Killermaster
The Flying Killers
#419 - 2013-10-07 23:38:06 UTC  |  Edited by: TFK Killermaster
Post 2/2

English Version Google Translate sorry Mates, it is a little bit screwy

What is this?
For each patch any hulls are changed or assigned to existing cases , other ships .
This is a emense waste of development time and ISK , which tells me my feeling .
What should be positive because I 'm used to many years of a ship design and totally listless times simply exchanged her sleeves. Sorry that sounds to me like 0815 redesign , not by new development.
Why things are not finally tackled the beats us players for so long on the stomach.
What time of the ship's design competition was launched ?
Since there were so many great designs that could have been reacting in Eve .
I know not how long your Creativ lots of ship designers currently need to develop a new ship design.
For my part, I would say with 3D Studio Max I need about 5 hours for a completely new hull in the low polygon mesh. possibly a further 5 hours for a corresponding skindesign in DDS format.

If you have any more ideas for double hulls , then asks the community , where there is more than enough creative minds who would like to see your own ship design in EVE again . So yet again organized a competition in this direction and bring you as new cases that currently exist for the command ships and other vessels in two ways already totally pointless. This then yes you can incorporate in the next patch so many sodas will rejoice times to see all new designs.

Things that must finally be implemented once !

1 Correct BUGS ! ! !
2 Pos structure conversion
3 Corp. rights system for ages overdue! ! The old is a disaster .....
4 Finally realize Walking on station ! Since the first announcement, I also wait Results .......
5 I 'm with CCP Phantom in Cologne at length talked about some ideas and known issues.
I do not see a point of it in the patch list that would have changed anything because it .....
What about the staff Hanga array when it is finally operational sodas right to use it makes sense
can . Without the members lose your stuff if it is broken ?
6 Where's the times a counterpart to the PHA , for example a personal Shipmaintaince array? ?
7 I'm still waiting for Alliance bookmarks ....

Of irrelevant ...

1 What the vulture's with the certificates? This is kind of totally unnecessary!!
I have 0 benefit. I can not operate with certificates, PVP still earn ISK. Many say the same,
TOTAL overgrips!!
2 You say you want to make the game beginner friendly? What does a beginner it when he sees what ships
he can not fly? NOTHING! He shall nevertheless skilling and for this we have the market and the skill tree to
to see how far we are.
3 Hulls exchange

A lot of irrelevant stuff where a lot of time and money are wasted , rather than the construction finally attack pushes your already years ahead of you and not completed.
No elapses with each half year which you can see again the new sites you create your own and not finalized.

It may be that many here think differently about it , but many see it as well as I do that your totally developed in the community over!
What you ask us really at all what we find it.
Your community but you always just new construction sites and never really goes to a community .

You should take time slowly pull the strap so that your whole buggy sites are finalized.
Otherwise I need you soon no longer worry about beginner friendly but, as we maintain our long-term players in the rod so that it does not migrate to other games ...... ! !
But if your not interested in the players have something useful to Present, then ride your server down and announced to all employees, the company closes and finishes this game with one blow.

Or think about it times , finally to finish your construction sites , to which the community has been waiting for ! ! !





TFK
Tragedy
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#420 - 2013-10-08 00:35:24 UTC
Can we please, PLEASE not have anymore space camo? Im stoked for a sleipnir cane. Space camouflage paintjobs are about the worst looking and most ridiculous thing I've seen in a video game in a long time.