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New dev blog: Anomalies revisited

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CCP Guard
C C P
C C P Alliance
#1 - 2011-11-16 14:22:09 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Guard
CCP Greyscale comes bearing news of anomaly changes that will be a part of Crucible, the upcoming Winter Expansion.

Please read the blog here, and leave your feedback and questions in the thread.

CCP Guard | EVE Community Developer | @CCP_Guard
Kim Telkin
Love for You
#2 - 2011-11-16 14:22:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Kim Telkin
First!

Also, this looks like a good step. +1.

More awesome incoming in less than two weeks, can't wait.

:)
CCP Greyscale
C C P
C C P Alliance
#3 - 2011-11-16 14:22:49 UTC
Also, a couple of things I'm expecting people to ask about that I want to clear up in advance:


First, this blog was entirely my idea; the original implementation was badly designed and I have no problem admitting that. We make mistakes, we learn from them, and we do things better next time around.

Second, yes, there was a huge angry forum thread for the first blog and I ignored it. That was also a mistake (obviously, in retrospect). This happened partly because I was too focused on looking for reasoned critiques to appreciate the significance of the huge outburst that it generated, but mainly because I've been increasingly withdrawn from the forums for the last year or two. It's a pretty draining experience reading page after page after page of angry posts, about all kinds of topics but all ultimately driven by the same core concerns of abandonment and neglect, and agreeing with those concerns, and not being able to do much of anything about it. As a result, I've been avoiding listening to the forums and focusing on doing the best work I can, but the former occasionally precludes the latter. On the bright side, it feels like the mood on the forums has been improving hugely in the last month or two, and I'm making an effort to read and post more as a result. Whether or not this is a good thing is of course a matter of personal opinion ;)
SilentSkills
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2011-11-16 14:27:20 UTC
CCP Greyscale wrote:
Whether or not this is a good thing is of course a matter of personal opinion ;)


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Ager Agemo
Rainbow Ponies Incorporated
#5 - 2011-11-16 14:30:11 UTC
5th?
Zendoren
Aktaeon Industries
#6 - 2011-11-16 14:31:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Zendoren
Make true sec adjustable through players actions and let the players adjust it our selves!

This idea can be extended to low-sec as well... just a thought!

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Neo Agricola
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2011-11-16 14:32:09 UTC
CCP Greyscale wrote:
Also, a couple of things I'm expecting people to ask about that I want to clear up in advance:


First, this blog was entirely my idea; the original implementation was badly designed and I have no problem admitting that. We make mistakes, we learn from them, and we do things better next time around.

Second, yes, there was a huge angry forum thread for the first blog and I ignored it. That was also a mistake (obviously, in retrospect). This happened partly because I was too focused on looking for reasoned critiques to appreciate the significance of the huge outburst that it generated, but mainly because I've been increasingly withdrawn from the forums for the last year or two. It's a pretty draining experience reading page after page after page of angry posts, about all kinds of topics but all ultimately driven by the same core concerns of abandonment and neglect, and agreeing with those concerns, and not being able to do much of anything about it. As a result, I've been avoiding listening to the forums and focusing on doing the best work I can, but the former occasionally precludes the latter. On the bright side, it feels like the mood on the forums has been improving hugely in the last month or two, and I'm making an effort to read and post more as a result. Whether or not this is a good thing is of course a matter of personal opinion ;)

Shocked

Sounds good.

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Vicar2008
MCMLXXVI
#8 - 2011-11-16 14:33:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Vicar2008
You have buffed the Anoms, great sure, but in that Blog maybe i am reading it wrong, but are the way they are being distrubuted being relaxed also? Or are they still being reserved in the True sec status regions, aka 0.00 systems still seeing non, -0.40 mabe seeing one and the -0.80 to -1.00 getting the best?
Maxsim Goratiev
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2011-11-16 14:34:12 UTC
cool, that's quite nice. so you de-facto buffed it. awesum.
CCP Greyscale
C C P
C C P Alliance
#10 - 2011-11-16 14:40:50 UTC
Vicar2008 wrote:
You have buffed the Anoms, great sure, but in that Blog maybe i am reading it wrong, but are the way they are being distrubuted being relaxed also? Or are they still being reserved in the True sec status regions, aka 0.00 systems still seeing non, -0.40 mabe seeing one and the -0.80 to -1.00 getting the best?



We're not changing the distribution at this time, BUT we're not changing it because a lot of the "not-good" sites are being upgraded to "really very good". 0.00-ish systems will have the same sites in, for example, but those sites should be considerably better than they currently are.
Temmu Guerra
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2011-11-16 14:41:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Temmu Guerra
Vicar2008 wrote:
You have buffed the Anoms, great sure, but in that Blog maybe i am reading it wrong, but are the way they are being distrubuted being relaxed also? Or are they still being reserved in the True sec status regions, aka 0.00 systems still seeing non, -0.40 mabe seeing one and the -0.80 to -1.00 getting the best?


Yes, according to the blog as I read it they were going to redistribute the regions but are holding off on it to see how this buff goes.

My question is though how will this affect the drone regions (if at all) as there is already ALOT of minerals coming from the hordes that are available now.
-T

~~EDIT~~
Grayscale beat me to it =p
Jarnis McPieksu
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2011-11-16 14:41:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Jarnis McPieksu
CCP Greyscale wrote:

Second, yes, there was a huge angry forum thread for the first blog and I ignored it. That was also a mistake (obviously, in retrospect).


Shocked

Is that an apology. From CCP!? Wtfisthis...

Okay... :"Apology Accepted, Captain Needa":

To avoid future issues, could you perhaps put up some posters on CCP walls that say "Ignoring angry threads for too long leads to people unsubscribing and people unsubscribing leads to CCP Hilmar freaking out with his Excel sheets and that leads to suffering..." or something? Big smile

Not that any of what happened recently at CCP was specifically your fault, it was more of a General Failure In Developing EVE *thespaceshipgame*... and it's too late to dwell in any of that. What matters is that it genuinely seems that CCP suddenly cares about their game again!
StukaBee
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2011-11-16 14:41:27 UTC
CCP Greyscale wrote:
Second, yes, there was a huge angry forum thread for the first blog and I ignored it. That was also a mistake (obviously, in retrospect). This happened partly because I was too focused on looking for reasoned critiques to appreciate the significance of the huge outburst that it generated, but mainly because I've been increasingly withdrawn from the forums for the last year or two. It's a pretty draining experience reading page after page after page of angry posts, about all kinds of topics but all ultimately driven by the same core concerns of abandonment and neglect, and agreeing with those concerns, and not being able to do much of anything about it. As a result, I've been avoiding listening to the forums and focusing on doing the best work I can, but the former occasionally precludes the latter. On the bright side, it feels like the mood on the forums has been improving hugely in the last month or two, and I'm making an effort to read and post more as a result. Whether or not this is a good thing is of course a matter of personal opinion ;)


The moral of this story is to never stop posting.
Jarnis McPieksu
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2011-11-16 14:43:19 UTC
StukaBee wrote:
CCP Greyscale wrote:
Second, yes, there was a huge angry forum thread for the first blog and I ignored it. That was also a mistake (obviously, in retrospect). This happened partly because I was too focused on looking for reasoned critiques to appreciate the significance of the huge outburst that it generated, but mainly because I've been increasingly withdrawn from the forums for the last year or two. It's a pretty draining experience reading page after page after page of angry posts, about all kinds of topics but all ultimately driven by the same core concerns of abandonment and neglect, and agreeing with those concerns, and not being able to do much of anything about it. As a result, I've been avoiding listening to the forums and focusing on doing the best work I can, but the former occasionally precludes the latter. On the bright side, it feels like the mood on the forums has been improving hugely in the last month or two, and I'm making an effort to read and post more as a result. Whether or not this is a good thing is of course a matter of personal opinion ;)


The moral of this story is to never stop posting.


Quoting For Truth. This. So much this.
Salpun
Global Telstar Federation Offices
Masters of Flying Objects
#15 - 2011-11-16 14:44:19 UTC
They also refresh faster now to becouse of the clocky ship nerf. With all the changes a wait before they up the amount per zone is a good idea but what do i know.

If i dont know something about EVE. I check https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/ISK_The_Guide

See you around the universe.
Evelgrivion
State War Academy
Caldari State
#16 - 2011-11-16 14:48:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Evelgrivion
So how do these revised sites compare to highsec Incursion running?

I'm glad to see that the issue of relative reward in 0.0 space is being reviewed (it has been out of whack) but the game is still contending with some serious issues with regards to available ISK faucets in high security space and mudflation. Boosting income anywhere can't really help those issues out and nerfing income will only tick off 90% of the paying customers living in high security space.

What do?
Efraya
V0LTA
WE FORM V0LTA
#17 - 2011-11-16 14:49:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Efraya
God damn nullbears and their hurf blurf and risk versus reward adverse CCP.

Make eve hard ffs.

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Didona Carpenito
DUST Expeditionary Team
Good Sax
#18 - 2011-11-16 14:50:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Didona Carpenito
So how does this effect low sec?

Can you give rough ISK:EHP values for the smaller sites, e.g. hubs, ports, rally points and yards?
StukaBee
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#19 - 2011-11-16 14:52:21 UTC
I'd very much like to see a greater variation in the types of anomalies available (maybe even randomised spawns), any chance of this in the future?

Either way, good to see that things are changing.
Freelancer'Spb
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#20 - 2011-11-16 14:53:04 UTC
It would be better to nerf sanctums and heavens in isk/ehp value to take them in line with other anomalies. These anomalies already are paradise farmlands for bots.

Also two suggestions:
Make npc's in anomalies more smart, like in incursions.
Make scanned anomalies appear into the space and overview like belts. This thing in the solarsystem map is too awkward .
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