EVE General Discussion

"500B is pocket change to the largest alliance in the game, so clearly CCP can just give it to anyone and it won't matter."

500B is a month or two of SRP for a major alliance in a bloc war.

You preach it Silens.

I'm further convinced that it dones't take much to rile up the EVE community. So what CCP gave some stuff to someone, the stuff isn't real. It has no values and even if it did, it belongs to CCP.

Right at this moment im typign this and killing some NPCs in pursuit of my next few plexes for my accounts, while also trying to dig up some kind of internal feeling of butt hurt at an icelandic video game company making me rat instead of giving me free imaginary space ships with bazzilions of space money. So far, nothing, but I know the but hurt must be in there somewhere!

Incorrect. Something of value doesn't have to be monetary value. Something of value could be value based on time, which of course is what isk is. We invest substantial amounts of time to create isk in a competitive game. We pay CCP real money which the majority of us invest significant amounts of time to acquire. There is an option to pay real money, against time invested to acquire for plex with the intent of converting that into isk. To say that isk has no value is ignorant in regards to what value means.

Would also point out that there is a contract between every subscriber and CCP in regards to what CCP offers to the subscribers. CCP has up to recently offered a sandbox game, they gave a guaranteed that they would not repeat the T20 incident. What they offer and what they supply legally has to be the same thing. Even in Iceland.

What can we do with that, well we can walk as I'm sure a few have and a few more will so they don't have a blank check in the sense the tax department or some other dictatorial company / organization. They must satisfy the customers and give them what they want or they won't have customers.

Even if it have some imaginary value to someone, at the end of the day, it all still belongs to CCP. Who they give things to is none of my business, nor is it yours.

I get that MMOs try to create a sense of "ownership" to tie people to the game, and as I see by all the butthurt here, CCP has done particularily well in this regard. But Jesus H. Christ on a Crusty Crutch , the reaction of some of you people is as if CCP invaded France and conficated all the Croissants or something. If CCP closes tommorow, EVERYTRHING in EVE ceases to exist and I use that word loosely, because despite all the time we put into making stuff and gaining stuff in this game, NONE of it is real. Not even the Thukker Tribe Machariel CCP gave me last week is real...oh crap, wasn't supposed to meantion that, please don't shoot up a monument!

I won't tell people how to feel, but I will comment on the utter stupidity of those feelings. The jealousy directed at Somer Blink and some video game account holders believing that CCP "secretly" giving away some scorpian shaped pixels is some big scandle is my idea of "person in need of going outside".

I disagree. You could say the same about football or sport as well. At the end of a sports competition nothing of value exists however the results have real value to people. When people get boosts in the form of game fixing or PEDs there is a big uproar by the fans, justifiably. They pay money and invest time and that time is wasted. Exactly the same with this game.

I think one of the things that people are forgetting is WHY in business people are expected to avoid these sorts of conflicts of interest. And let's be clear, when CCP rewards an IN GAME corporation for doing their job well, it is a conflict of interest. Somer is an in game entity and CC has decided to get into bed with them.

But the reason this should be avoided is not merely because we all think its bad. What if in two or three months there are reports that employees of Somer are involved in RMT'ing, even if they are not involved in RMT'ing NOW.

If that happens, how do we trust CCP to investigate that fully? We won't. You may say we should, but the fact is - we won't, and we'd have good reason.

This is why, in business, law, medicine, etc.. you avoid all appearances of conflicts of interest.

CCP screwed up on this one, there is no defending it. It doesn't mean we can't move on and be okay with it, but CCP absolutely MUST cease such a close relationship with an in-game corporation.

Additionally they should look at the impact of giving an in game item to anyone as recognition on the economy. And they should certainly STOP giving these things away secretly - not sure what sort of 'recognition' reward is supposed to be given away secretly, but the fact that CCP has done it that way shows you they knew something was up.

Let the CSM decide who should get these rewards - players rewarded by players - and remain impartial, if you even can anymore.

[Post deleted due to inaccuracy. Someone gave me bad intel. Apologies.]

So, other people are over sensative to things that don't relaly matter, so I'm justified in carring about getting imaginarily screwed over by icelandic businessmen!

Nonsense.

I live in Dallas, Texas. Today, the Dallas Cowboys lost (narrowly) to the Denver Broncos . I had a good 15 (maybe even 16) seconds of "this sucks" before returing to the reality of "ok, so one group of millionaiers lost a game to another group of millionaires. lol. It was only 15 seconds because I'm a well adjusted adult human being.

Other people were on the streets MAD at the world because "they" lost(as if it were them who were on theplaying field throwing interceptions, WTB new Cowboys quaterback btw). I wanted to tell a few of the worst ones who were cussing andlooking for thing to throw that, if the worst thing that happens to you today is that your sports team loses, you're having a good day.

"They" didn't lose anything (unless they were dumb enough to bet on the cowboys lol). Of course th NFL wants people to feel a certain way, they make money off it like CCP does. But that means nothing, it's just a game, a voluntary activity that has no meaning to anyone save the made up meaning of "wins" and "loses". When countries start using "Sport" (ol, sport, you must be a brit, it's SPORTS damn it) to settle territorial disputes and player litteralyl die on the field, i'll personally assing each game it's proper amoun of import.

If you don't like what CCP is doing so much that you spend precious time of your life posting about in in anger, unsub. Quietly.

On a side note, that would be one hell of an epitath on your tombstone one day: "Here lies Rob aka Infinity Ziona, he never did much in life but by God he let CCP know how unfair things were in a video game"

Got some wonky intel. My apologies. Post edited.