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Am I allowed to trade out of game items for isk?
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Irsam Samri
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2013-10-06 22:31:25 UTC
Say I am an artist, could I trade my artwork for isk in game? Things like art postcards and paintings?
Anomaly One
Doomheim
#2 - 2013-10-06 22:34:03 UTC
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Say I am an artist


You're an artist

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could I trade my artwork for isk in game?


no

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Things like art postcards and paintings?


Yes
gobbybobby
Negative-Impact
#3 - 2013-10-06 22:35:09 UTC
read the terms and conditions/ EULA whatever its called, its all in there what u can and can't do.
Irsam Samri
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2013-10-06 22:35:18 UTC
Smartass
Irsam Samri
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2013-10-06 22:36:51 UTC
Hmm, if I wanted to sell a painting for isk, could I technically just setup a raffle as this is technically what Somer blink does?
I'm not anti summer blink I just think it would be fun advertising selling artwork for isk.
TigerXtrm
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#6 - 2013-10-06 22:47:43 UTC
Irsam Samri wrote:
Say I am a banker, could I trade my money for isk in game? Things like pennies quarters and dollars?


There. That should put it in perspective.

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Anomaly One
Doomheim
#7 - 2013-10-06 22:49:49 UTC
Irsam Samri wrote:
Hmm, if I wanted to sell a painting for isk, could I technically just setup a raffle as this is technically what Somer blink does?
I'm not anti summer blink I just think it would be fun advertising selling artwork for isk.


I get paid with isk to do the dishes.
Irsam Samri
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2013-10-06 23:01:13 UTC
I was just told that people offer website building services for isk. Would that be considered a monetary service more than a postcard?
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#9 - 2013-10-06 23:02:44 UTC
Anomaly One wrote:
Irsam Samri wrote:
Hmm, if I wanted to sell a painting for isk, could I technically just setup a raffle as this is technically what Somer blink does?
I'm not anti summer blink I just think it would be fun advertising selling artwork for isk.


I get paid with isk to do the dishes.


No, you don't. You especially don't when you're in public and GMs might interpret your joke as a serious statement of receiving in-game benefits for out-of-game services.

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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#10 - 2013-10-06 23:03:24 UTC
Irsam Samri wrote:
I was just told that people offer website building services for isk. Would that be considered a monetary service more than a postcard?

You are allowed to take payment for some undefined set of game-related services. The only real clarification offered through the years is that you can't wash someone's car for ISK, even if you do it wearing an EVE t-shirt.
Mister Tuggles
Heretic Army
Sedition.
#11 - 2013-10-06 23:06:13 UTC
Irsam Samri wrote:
Say I am an artist, could I trade my artwork for isk in game? Things like art postcards and paintings?




People trade "services" for in game isk, i.e. people will design websites, killboards, etc. I have seen people host teamspeak servers for in game isk as well, and it doesn't seem like CCP has any problem with that.

Now, if you were to trade RL items for isk that may be a problem. Not really sure though. That would be something you may want to submit an ingame ticket to find out from the GM for sure.

CCP seems to have a pretty wide variance on the interpretations of the EULA depending on who is actually enforcing the rules that day. Kind of like when a woman says everything is alright, but then goes batshit crazy a few minutes later.
Irsam Samri
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#12 - 2013-10-06 23:10:17 UTC
Yeah Ill ask for clarity, this would be more of a service than an item, even if they get a piece of paper with a drawing on it
Malcolm Shinhwa
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2013-10-06 23:17:52 UTC
This is not the place for a reliable answer to your question where the outcome could potentially involve a game ending ban. File a petition stating your business proposal. See what the GMs say.

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Cameron Freerunner
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2013-10-06 23:19:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Cameron Freerunner
Yes, you absolutely can. There have been several forum signature designers, logo designers, etc. For a long time on the old avatar pictures, there was a service that would animate your avatar in a gif.

edit: proof

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1570342
TigerXtrm
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#15 - 2013-10-06 23:26:29 UTC
Irsam Samri wrote:
Yeah Ill ask for clarity, this would be more of a service than an item, even if they get a piece of paper with a drawing on it


Can the buyer go and sell the work he bought of you for real money? If yes, it's not allowed.

Else I would give you 100 million for a painting I could sell for 50 bucks. I would then have sold 100 million ISK for 50 bucks. See how that works?

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Five Finger Army
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#16 - 2013-10-06 23:49:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Five Finger Army
Irsam Samri wrote:
Say I am an artist, could I trade my artwork for isk in game? Things like art postcards and paintings?



Of course you are - I am considering to start an adult movie site for isk and get trillions of isk from CCP if it works (I'm a porn movie artist).

Considering they repeatedly reward eve relateded isk-based gambling sites with ingame gifts, I feel strongly encouraged.

Once I RMT'd enough of the income and gifts, I will widen it to hookers for isk.

Then I'll sponsor an eve themed gang-bang event in Amsterdam with a hooker dressed up as Jamyl Sarum.

Probably I'll try to get sponsorship from Heineken, and convince CCP to provide Ishukone Leviathans in every 100'st bottlecap.

If CCP encourages that, they can't possibly object to some paintings.
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#17 - 2013-10-07 00:37:28 UTC
Tippia wrote:
The only real clarification offered through the years is that you can't wash someone's car for ISK, even if you do it wearing an EVE t-shirt.



So youre saying that topless carwashes for ISK are perfectly fine. Fantastic!







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Dalto Bane
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2013-10-07 01:27:01 UTC
Your transactions might fall into that gray area as in, unless it became an issue that required a GM to become involved, or you made it their business by posting it on a public forum, then it could be overlooked... at CCP's discretion of course.

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Varius Xeral
Doomheim
#19 - 2013-10-07 01:53:50 UTC
Of course, just don't get caught.

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SpoonRECKLESS
Beach Boys
The Minions.
#20 - 2013-10-07 01:54:21 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Tippia wrote:
The only real clarification offered through the years is that you can't wash someone's car for ISK, even if you do it wearing an EVE t-shirt.



So youre saying that topless carwashes for ISK are perfectly fine. Fantastic!










Will this be an all gender car wash i believe in equal rights when it comes to these things.

Blue
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