Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Hey ccp,

im kind of new to things down in nullsec but from everything ive seen so far, it seem rather overpowered that there is no way at all to find out where a cloaked ship is hiding. Since people cant rightly do things pve wise inside a system with a cloaky hanging about for fear of it dropping 10 other cloakies on their heads, its possible to lock down entire alliances with just a group of 10 people who are willing to let their alts be afk for the entire day in systems.

Factually 1 person locks down a system with 20-30 people in it, people who might be paying to play their game, but who are forced to just wait and hope that that 1 red goes away because the game designers failed to put a balancing counterpoint for claokies in the game.

In every game mechanics have strong points and weak points, sadly it seems that you failed to implement any real weak point to a cloaked ship, they can cloak up, and cannot be scanned found, unless your randomly bump into them or get into 2k range of them. Now im not a mathematician but im sure someone could find out what the chances of that are 1^-10000000 most likely...

please dont reply with troll posts, there no reason to. as you well know if we do undock we get the 10 ships on us as mentioned in the first post.

Assuming that most people post unhelpful posts like the 2 above that would mean that more than 60% of the posts in that thread are trolls, better to open a new post and hope ccp notices

I'm not sure that 'this topic has been discussed many, many times here already', along with a link to said discussion, really qualifies as 'unhelpful'...

The reason we're being somewhat dismissive is because you've said nothing new. There are already a lot of posts about AFK cloaking in F&I. A significant number of them make pretty much exactly the same suggestion you have here, and people have already discussed the pros and cons of this kind of thing extensively. The least you could do is give a quick summary in your OP of what your responses are to the most common counter-arguments - but as far as I can tell from your post, you haven't even bothered to find out what those counter-arguments are.

EDIT: Nikk Narrel has given some of the best explanations of what's wrong with this idea; if you want to filter out some of the chaff, try searching for his posts.

Carebears just don't learn, they are even afraid of AFK ships....

You a solution for you problem, make cloaked ship invisible in local. Problem solved.

I fail to see why a ship that can do nothing to you requires a counter in the current game environment.

I also fail to see why people can't manage to go PVE when there's a cloaky in system. I run exploration plexes and rat in lowsec. Guess what also works in lowsec? Cynos and bridges. Not only do I not dock up in fear of cloakies, I don't dock up in fear of all the **** that's actually on long d-scan that can be actively looking for me. Fucks given: Zero. Unless it's on short scan, I'm not worried about it. Cynos happen; it's the risk you take in this game. If I spent all my time docked up and in fear of people who might come get me, I'd be just like a nullbear and not get anything done all day.

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Learn what the underlined word means.

Stop being a *****. Thats how you conduct PvE with a cloaky in system.

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You must be new to the forums, or perhaps forums as a whole. People post in each others' threads around here (they're called threads btw) as a means of communication with each other. By posting a thread in a forum, you are agreeing that you understand other people will very likely post their responses in it.