Player Features and Ideas Discussion

That is a problem with the role and general properties granted to ABC's as well as the high prices of smaller quality/T2 ships, it has nothing to do with ABC's having large weapon systems.

ABC's were created as separate Meta Cruisers when I think CCP was actually looking for the role of a real BC, as in the regular BC's we already had but with large weapon systems instead, that is a Battlecruiser; Currently what we have are Heavy Cruisers(BC's) and some kind of highly mobile artillery(ABC's) and in the case of Talos, a Desteroider?

ABC's should be made into regular BC's with all the benefits and drawbacks that entails, at least most of them to make them feel like BC's of sorts.

BC's and Command Ships should be given large weapon systems to correctly reflect their role and further differentiate them from their smaller cousins.

That's how I feel about it.

Sorry for going off topic like this.

I think we should all agree that the current ships look better

I might support the Abso if it was a more heavily plated version of the Harb hull but it looks weak as is.

The sleipnir/nighthawk change is down right sacrilegious, they look excellent as they are.

Yay for more hull diversity!

Can't wait for these...

We said it before and will say it agian: BAD IDEA.

A) This thread and the last thread clearly demonstrate a divided opinion on this change (possible even net negative). Either make completely new models or don't bother, because you get no net benefit from this so it's a waste of CCP's time.

B) (often igonored but very important) This will affect industry significantly, now everyone has to change the BPOs that they are researching to pander to these stupid changes.

The drake has and always will be the most uninspired and boring design out there. The harbinger looks too phalical, and the new paint skins on the sleip and eos are just bland as all hell.

DON'T DO IT!

For the most part I really like the new Command Ship models. The Nighthawk especially looks amazing. However the models themselves seem to be identical to the tech-1 models. Many of the tech-2 ships have slightly altered models. More fins, a few extra engines, some spikes.

Adding a few extra engines to the Absolution and the Eos models, some solar-panel-fin-thingies on the Sleipnir, and a few more spikes to the Nighthawk, would models themselves a bit different from the tech-1 ones.

The previous thread had a lot of people who disliked the changes, but significantly more people who did like the changes. I remember very distinctly, as I kept a running total on posts in support of and against the changes and updated it every couple of pages. The thread was not hidden and links to it were publicized by people on Twitter, Reddit, YouTube and I'm sure others.

As for "why not full new models" it's probably because Team Trilambda is already busy working on new models for other ships. They have SoE ships to finish up. They have Marauders to finish up. They have every T2 ship in the game to review. Command Ships - all eight of them - will be getting revised models that are better than reskins, just like the Marauders and some AFs have gotten; they just won't get them right this minute because there are bigger fish to fry.

EDIT: I tallied up all the numbers from that other thread, but I won't post there to avoid bumping it.

IN FAVOR OF CHANGES: 260

AGAINST THE CHANGES: 100

Any replies that were too vague (either for or against) or proposed whole new ship classes instead (there were more than a few) were considered "unresponsive" and not counted.

Then how about not giving CS recycled models with Rubi 1.0 but with 1.1 or 1.2? Why has it to be recycling just for the sake of change? Why not wait a bit longer and give them proper new models right from the start?

yeah if they are so bussy why wasteing resources makeing theese awfull changes?

this all started wehn they gave the navy model to the brutig and some people sugested to have the myr model for the eos as balance which i could understand.


but why have i as sleipnir nighthawk pilot to suffer from this screw up???

i hate both the hurricane and the drake model they are both undcreative and booring as **** to look at.
and on top of that the sleipnir will look just look like a navy hurricane.

if they had changed the claymore to hurricane model this would have been way more acceptable cause a hurricane in those dark colors would look ******* awesome and no sleipnir pilots feelings would be hurt.
(similar thing could be done to vulture/nighthawk, way less people seem to be attatched to the vulture model)

but no wait it is way more important that there are no weapons on a hull whose tech 1 version does not support.....

im 110% sure the skins for the ships werent aready made before the original idea after navy ship release.... so there was tim spent on em by desing team....
yoll need to show a proof saying somethin diffrent.

i refered to "sleipnir pilots" cause they are quite a few and love the ship and design not cause they are something better.... they are just the largest grp of command ship pilots affected by this and probably the most attatched to their ships.

I was actually quite shocked with the look of them in the beginning but after days i'm starting to warm to those new hulls quite a bit.

I feel bad though as the current ones looked really nice too and after this they would be gone...