EVE General Discussion

This. I don't know if I want to be here anymore if CCP is giving out billions of ISK to arbitrarily chosen in-game groups, under the table. What else has been given out? Who else received this "gift" from CCP? Are the people we are waging a war against perhaps funded by the devs? What's the point in all the empire building, alliance leadership, logistics, and efforts of literally thousands of people, when this other group just gets their money handed to them for free, spawned from thin air?

This guy gets it. +1

Token gifts folks, token gifts.

Oddly enough in an online game, things with real life value (such as Iceland airfare) are seen as token gifts by your customers. In game items, of absolutely no real world value (we like to think) are not acceptable as they muck with the sandbox. That mucking leads to an appearance of IN GAME impropriety, raises doubts about Somer's legitimacy as a PLAYER organization, and otherwise ruins people's game experience.

CCP should not be in the business of effective endorsing these sites, and the lottery scandal along with this basically seems to amount to a business parternship with Somer, in which case all their isk should be removed from the game and they should function purely via real world contract with CCP.






In which case, if CCP wants to profit from a relationship with Somer (and Somer profit from a relationship with CCP) then Somer should be terminated as a player run, in gam, isk making entity and they should function via a real world business relationship with CCP. Basically CCP would pay them to run lotteries for them. But any isk paid to the lottery would go to CCP. This would honestly be great for the game as it would remove a huge amount of isk from the game. Somer would then be paid real-world currency for the contract of running lotteries and they could pay their employees, etc. in cash.

Honestly, this bizarre proxy economy, where CCP pays a company in ISK (or through endorsement) and that company pays its employees in isk, but isk that has real world cash value, is a little sketchy (if not illegal in some way).

Never not milk.

SO THEY CAN PUT ISK DIRECTLY INTO GAMBLING SITES WALLET.

Added a rather important bit.

Boycott SomerBLINK folks. Get your friends to do the same.

They are 50% of this problem, and at this point, through accepting these gifts, in the pocket of CCP. They do not deserve your 'business'.

I echo the sentiments of a few here.

SOMER is good for eve.

Nothing wrong with CCP rewarding SOMER.


But for the love of all things shiny and explosive - DONT do it with Game items or ISK - send them some T-Shirts or a USB Hub rifter or something...

This still continues to not bother me much. I do not view "Sombergate" and the T20 scandal as being one in the same. One is a third party entity that provides a gambling service to the Eve community and is being rewarded with CCP spawned items, while the other was a CCP employee who was providing his alt player alliance with CCP spawned items.

I for one, would like to see more transparency in the way CCP rewards third party entities and perhaps a CSM review and vote at the beginning of the year of what gifts are appropriate for what cause, but I certainly do not think the a reward program of some kind should cease all together.

Something to think about in my closing; If CCP wanted, they could dissolve Somber Blink as we know it, then hire them as CCP third party employer/volunteer who would then act much like an ISD volunteer with full oversight from CCP and continue to do exactly what they are doing now. Then what? I left this very broad, but I can see something like this being one of the directions that CCP could go as an answer to all the cries of foul that this issues is causing. I do not wish to be viewed as trolling, these opinions are my own, and I assure you I have been persuaded many times that my opinion was misinformed and/or wrong, but has never been by an unintelligent response.

Dean Tekki;

In the interests of encouraging and improving the state of higher education throughout New Eden, I offer you greetings and salutations. I also offer some advice:

"Professor" has only 1 'f'.
The abbreviation for a Doctorate is "PhD", not "PHd".

Conveniently, a spellchecker like those built into most primitive web browsers will catch both of these errors. As you are a highly educated man, and one whose job entails a vast multitude - indeed, one might say a plethora - of important, highly-important detail-oriented tasks, I can only assume that these errors are in fact the result of laziness on the part of your secretary. Please have her shot. As she is, doubtless, in possession of the same capsuleer/infantry implants as the rest of us, simply make sure her clone is up to date, and it can be considered a warning execution. Thank you.

Sincerely;
Arrendis Culome, adjunct, Pedants Without Borders

I hope all you whiners are happy. SOMER is doing Scorpion promos just for the occasion :)

so if ccp just gave them RL money that would be cool...

but because people bitched about the NEX store and can not buy the vanity scorp they are upset?

get over it... move on...

and if you cant GTFO!