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I Stand w/ CCP and S.O.M.E.R. Blink

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Thomas Hurt
Future Ventures
#1 - 2013-10-05 15:58:14 UTC
Look, I know it's getting hard for us CCP/Blink supporters, but we need to stand fast in these trying times. I believe with all my heart that CCP did what they did with the best of intentions, and that this whole situation is being blown way out of proportion by Goon knuckleheads & trolls. Post here to make your voice heard; show these nullbear try-hards that there is a silent majority in E.v.E. online that is perfectly content playing a gambling game with negative isk expectancy, the owners of which regularly have free ships gifted to them by the devs.

+1 for C.C.P. and S.O.M.E.R. Blink Cool
adarma
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#2 - 2013-10-05 15:59:44 UTC
Thomas Hurt wrote:
Look, I know it's getting hard for us CCP/Blink supporters, but we need to stand fast in these trying times. I believe with all my heart that CCP did what they did with the best of intentions, and that this whole situation is being blown way out of proportion by Goon knuckleheads & trolls. Post here to make your voice heard; show these nullbear try-hards that there is a silent majority in E.v.E. online that is perfectly content playing a gambling game with negative isk expectancy, the owners of which regularly have free ships gifted to them by the devs.

+1 for C.C.P. and S.O.M.E.R. Blink Cool



I stand by CCP and this game. But I DO NOT stand by wrondoing!

How about you? Are you standing by CCP or a wrongdoing?
Rhatar Khurin
Doomheim
#3 - 2013-10-05 16:05:51 UTC
*gathers angry mob with pitchforks and flaming torches*
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2013-10-05 16:07:50 UTC
Seriously, the **** is wrong with you, man?
TigerXtrm
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#5 - 2013-10-05 16:09:20 UTC
I don't mind SOMER and their 'employees' getting a gift from CCP for providing a huge service to the community which can be considered a second very boring job. God knows I wouldn't want to sit around in my free time punching in numbers and paying ISK to people.

However there's been a LOT of ISK going SOMER's way as of late. First a whole bunch of prizes to give away and now they get unique ships. Does it hurt the game? No, it really doesn't. No new ISK is being introduced into the economy. For the most part this is people being jealous over some people getting an expensive gift for essentially taking other peoples money. Yeah that stings, but it's part of the game.

What CCP needs to realize though is that they are showing extreme favoritism towards a single entity in the game. And since all EVE players are tin foil hat paranoid lunatics, everyone is going to assume corruption is involved in one way or another. True or not doesn't matter. The impression makes CCP look bad.

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Thomas Hurt
Future Ventures
#6 - 2013-10-05 16:12:09 UTC
/Me wonders how many of these posters are Mittani alts. Ugh
Literally Space Moses
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#7 - 2013-10-05 16:13:44 UTC
Thomas Hurt wrote:
/Me wonders how many of these posters are Mittani alts. Ugh


Grr goons

#T2013

Lido Seahawk
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2013-10-05 16:14:29 UTC
sar·casm
noun \ˈsär-ˌka-zəm\

: the use of words that mean the opposite of what you really want to say especially in order to insult someone, to show irritation, or to be funny



Just sayin'

May I have your stuff?

Anomaly One
Doomheim
#9 - 2013-10-05 16:21:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Anomaly One
Thomas Butt Hurt

















just kidding don't **** me..


Quote:
..online that is perfectly content playing a gambling game with negative isk expectancy, the owners of which regularly have free ships gifted to them by the devs.


lol
Jerick Ludhowe
Internet Tuff Guys
#10 - 2013-10-05 16:39:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Jerick Ludhowe
TigerXtrm wrote:
I don't mind SOMER and their 'employees' getting a gift from CCP for providing a huge service to the community which can be considered a second very boring job.


Their "huge service to the community" is and has been making them billion upon billions of isk. I fail to see why they should be rewarded again... It's there to create isk dude not to "provide a huge service".

I don't see redfrog/blackfrog getting trillions in handouts... Their service also has a FAR GREATER impact on eve than somer blink.
Montevius Williams
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2013-10-05 16:47:08 UTC
Thomas Hurt wrote:
Look, I know it's getting hard for us CCP/Blink supporters, but we need to stand fast in these trying times. I believe with all my heart that CCP did what they did with the best of intentions, and that this whole situation is being blown way out of proportion by Goon knuckleheads & trolls. Post here to make your voice heard; show these nullbear try-hards that there is a silent majority in E.v.E. online that is perfectly content playing a gambling game with negative isk expectancy, the owners of which regularly have free ships gifted to them by the devs.

+1 for C.C.P. and S.O.M.E.R. Blink Cool


Im on record saying I dont mind it. I dont see what the bif deal is - I be CCP has given free ships n stuff to a **** ton of people. As a matter a fact, I KNOW they have.

People are just mad because THEY didnt get the free stuff.

If CCP wants to give free stuff to people that provide a great service to the community, Im all for it. The following I see as groups.people providing service to the community at large - Im sure Im missing some groups:

Somber Blink
Cribba
Goonswarm
Red Frog

If CCP wants to give stuff to these guys, Im all for it.

"The American Government indoctrination system known as public education has been relentlessly churning out socialists for over 20 years". - TravisWB

Scooter McCabe
Thunderwaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#12 - 2013-10-05 17:03:32 UTC
Thomas Hurt wrote:
Look, I know it's getting hard for us CCP/Blink supporters, but we need to stand fast in these trying times. I believe with all my heart that CCP did what they did with the best of intentions, and that this whole situation is being blown way out of proportion by Goon knuckleheads & trolls. Post here to make your voice heard; show these nullbear try-hards that there is a silent majority in E.v.E. online that is perfectly content playing a gambling game with negative isk expectancy, the owners of which regularly have free ships gifted to them by the devs.

+1 for C.C.P. and S.O.M.E.R. Blink Cool


Yeah who's alt is this?
Literally Space Moses
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#13 - 2013-10-05 17:08:51 UTC
Montevius Williams wrote:

I dont see what the bif deal is - I be CCP has given free ships n stuff to a **** ton of people. As a matter a fact, I KNOW they have.


Can you provide proof of this? Preferably with who in CCP was giving the stuff away so we can root them out.

#T2013

Roxwar
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2013-10-05 17:17:17 UTC
TigerXtrm wrote:
For the most part this is people being jealous over some people getting an expensive gift for essentially taking other peoples money. Yeah that stings, but it's part of the game.


Spawning exclusive in game items on the quiet for an in game service is NOT part of the game. Ever.

tigerxtrm wrote:
What CCP needs to realize though is that they are showing extreme favoritism towards a single entity in the game. And since all EVE players are tin foil hat paranoid lunatics, everyone is going to assume corruption is involved in one way or another. True or not doesn't matter. The impression makes CCP look bad.


This i agree with, and as soon as this story hits other main stream gaming sites, CCP's reputation for keeping out of their game and showing favoritism to none, is going to be blown out the water. They say there's no such thing as bad publicity but i disagree, being found out by your player base to be secretly spawning exclusive (and expensive) items for an in game entity is blatant favoritism and CCP will be outed as the biggest hyprocrites this side of Eden.

In short it's shattered any confidence i had in CCP to stay neutral.
Jerick Ludhowe
Internet Tuff Guys
#15 - 2013-10-05 17:20:06 UTC
Literally Space Moses wrote:
Montevius Williams wrote:

I dont see what the bif deal is - I be CCP has given free ships n stuff to a **** ton of people. As a matter a fact, I KNOW they have.


Can you provide proof of this? Preferably with who in CCP was giving the stuff away so we can root them out.


I think the dude is trying to compare 100mish in xmass(insert winter holiday here) gifts granted to everyone to Over a trillion being granted to 1 group.

Either way, the dude's point is bad, and he should probably feel bad.
Argus Sorn
Star Frontiers
Brotherhood of Spacers
#16 - 2013-10-05 17:22:22 UTC
So it is okay for CCP to give ISK to players?

Answer that question - if you say "yes", then go on with your support.

I support CCP. Honestly my guess is this was a dumb move by someone who is now in way over his head - a business decision made by a guy who's job it is to give people warm fuzzies. A guy who clearly should stick to giving out fuzzies and run every single independent thought he has through someone with a brain. (sorry for the rhetoric)

And you can support CCP.

As for BLINK, they are effectively being paid by CCP. As long as you are okay with that, gamble away.

I for one with boycott BLINK, because the right thing for them to do would have been to refuse any gifts, favors, etc., that have any real value - in game at least, and out of game as well.

I won't flame you or hunt you for your opinion, but you should open your mind to the issues here. A meddling in the in game economy couples with the giving of gifts and endorsements that at the very least raise the specter of impropriety. Both of those things are bad, and anyone with a half a brain should have been able to avoid such missteps.
Nyreanya
Serenity Labs
#17 - 2013-10-05 17:24:07 UTC
Thomas Hurt wrote:
E.v.E. online (...) S.O.M.E.R. Blink
Out of curiosity, in your mind, what are these are acronyms for?

[/sarcasm]

Roxwar
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2013-10-05 17:32:23 UTC
Roxwar wrote:


This i agree with, and as soon as this story hits other main stream gaming sites, CCP's reputation for keeping out of their game and showing favoritism to none, is going to be blown out the water..


Aaaaaaaaand it's hit Kotaku

Kotaku

You brought this on yourselves CCP with your idiotic decision makers you employ. I'd like to hear Himlar's response on all this...
Charlie Firpol
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#19 - 2013-10-05 17:36:41 UTC
While I hope that none of you actually leave the game, I will still be available to manage your left-behind belognings until your eventual return. Just contract them to me, thanks a lot in advance and good luck to whereever the flow of time leads you.

The Butcher of Black Rise - eve-radio.com

ElQuirko
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2013-10-05 17:37:00 UTC
TigerXtrm wrote:
Does it hurt the game? No, it really doesn't. No new ISK is being introduced into the economy.


S-Seriously? Yes, yes it does. Yes, new ISK is being reintroduced. "Limited edition" ships are having more runs created. These ships are worth around 20bil a pop. CCP gave 30 of them to SOMER even before Magn-gate. 30*20bil = ???

You do the maths.

Dodixie > Hek

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