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A review of player giveaways with CCP and third party sites

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#681 - 2013-10-03 07:39:45 UTC
StabThigh wrote:
Wow, so this actually came to pass? Been playing eve since 04- took a few breathers now and again but always knew I'd be back. Not this time though. I stuck it out through t20 as CCP formally apologized and reached out to the players, promising non-interference in the future.

Eve online is too harsh for you

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Sirane Elrek
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#682 - 2013-10-05 05:22:19 UTC
There's a bit of a rumor going on at the moment that SOMER Blink has been the recipient of another half a trillion handout by CCP in August (secretly of course, making it public would be weird). Anyone care to comment? Can we have our Sabre BPOs yet?
Alexi Steele
St. Albans' Refuge
#683 - 2013-10-05 05:47:48 UTC
Sirane Elrek wrote:
There's a bit of a rumor going on at the moment that SOMER Blink has been the recipient of another half a trillion handout by CCP in August (secretly of course, making it public would be weird). Anyone care to comment? Can we have our Sabre BPOs yet?


Mittens.com - where goons go to be told what to think, and be confronted with an eyeraping amount of advertisement banners.

And let's not forget quality stories like this one - http://i.imgur.com/Juk1JMB.png

You truely are EN24 2.0
Johnny Marzetti
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#684 - 2013-10-05 06:05:21 UTC
Well you are a poopoo head mister
Le Petite More
Doomheim
#685 - 2013-10-05 11:22:36 UTC
Never thought I would side with goons but they are right. This is ridiculous and CCP needs to release a statement. Were they secretly giving players ingame ships?
greeny knight
Solar Storm
#686 - 2013-10-05 11:49:36 UTC
why not instead give intresting items to subscribers that have a subscription for five years - 10 years and so on not everybody use out of game sites , but are still dedicated to eve .

that wold make more sence ,and those guys find there appriciated instead of bieng a part of the decoration ??
Jerick Ludhowe
Internet Tuff Guys
#687 - 2013-10-05 11:54:35 UTC
Wow, t20 all over again except this time with allot more spin. We know what's really going on here tho ccp, you're breaking your sandbox so your friends can get fake isk.
Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
#688 - 2013-10-05 12:32:03 UTC
shame on you CCP

The Tears Must Flow
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#689 - 2013-10-05 13:03:01 UTC
I guess now we know why Navigator's sole response to this thread was to advertise Somer BLINK.

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.
Steijn
Quay Industries
#690 - 2013-10-05 13:58:17 UTC
I know its goons and everything has to be taken with a pinch of salt, but I wouldnt be surprised if whats wrote is true.
kraiklyn Asatru
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#691 - 2013-10-05 14:40:19 UTC
Meh call my cynical but I think its probably true. CCP seems to have quite the history with gross PR incompetence and a history in failing to learn from previous mistakes.
Xaen
Telepathic Death Mimes
#692 - 2013-10-05 15:09:14 UTC
Abernie wrote:
I am honestly baffled how it's possible you missed the point so badly...


In my meatspace professional experience I have found that the primary job requirement for being in marketing is no brains, no scruples, no shame, and sometimes a pretty face.

I get shouty crackers a lot. Deal with it.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#693 - 2013-10-05 17:08:03 UTC
Thanks, CCP Navigator, for creating all this content.

Besides just the OP of this thread, of course

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Cierra Royce
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#694 - 2013-10-05 17:50:03 UTC
Not only did Somer and co get these super special Cruiser/frigates to auction, or keep, whatever. But they also were secretly spawned a nice big pile of valuable faction ships?

Certain people just cannot resist can they? They cant keep their hands out of the ******* cookie jar.

Like what a surprise that certain people at CCP find it okay to spawn tens of thousands of dollars of in game items for their pets, not like this has ever happened before is it? But yet I am surprised, surprised at the boldness of openly spawning this stuff and saying 'whatever' when people call them on it.

Whatever excuses about rewarding content creators, (I mean what?) doing so in this fashion is simply pissing in the sandbox, pissing on all the other players and telling us that it's raining.

I realise that outside of the game itself, CCP is a business and that its quite normal to have business relationships that result in corporate hospitality of one form or another, so CCP gift these pukes at Somer tickets to your little bang parties at Vegas and Rejk, not one **** would be given by the playerbase, in fact I think most people would think it rather cool.

Yet you persist in contaminating the virtual world by allowing whoever and whatever Somer really represents to CCP to gain enormously valuable gifts and consequently a massive advantage over any player trying to obtain these things or a particular status for themselves through normal play.
Kern Hotha
#695 - 2013-10-05 18:22:39 UTC
If CCP truly did create these valuable assets and gave them to pilots in a particular corporation, it's every bit as sleazy as the t20 blueprints.

We distinguish the excellent man from the common man by saying that the former is the one who makes great demands upon himself, and the latter who makes no demands on himself.

Jose Ortega y Gasset (1883 - 1955)
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#696 - 2013-10-05 18:27:05 UTC
Weaselior wrote:
I guess now we know why Navigator's sole response to this thread was to advertise Somer BLINK.

Because he thought he got away with spawning them those scorpions?

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Sugar Von MurdererTits
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#697 - 2013-10-05 21:34:29 UTC
Alexi Steele wrote:
Sirane Elrek wrote:
There's a bit of a rumor going on at the moment that SOMER Blink has been the recipient of another half a trillion handout by CCP in August (secretly of course, making it public would be weird). Anyone care to comment? Can we have our Sabre BPOs yet?


Mittens.com - where goons go to be told what to think, and be confronted with an eyeraping amount of advertisement banners.

And let's not forget quality stories like this one - http://i.imgur.com/Juk1JMB.png

You truely are EN24 2.0


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Baali Tekitsu
AQUILA INC
Verge of Collapse
#698 - 2013-10-05 23:31:02 UTC
I demand a Magstab, a Gyrostab and a Heat sink t2 BPO, aswell as a lifetime 100% ship loss value insurance for Thrashers, as I have been creating a lot of content flying Thrashers and other ships.
A Vindicator BPO would be nice too, as I plan on creating a lot of content in Vindicators in the future.

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Argus Sorn
Star Frontiers
Brotherhood of Spacers
#699 - 2013-10-06 05:20:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Argus Sorn
I am still not sure why CCP is in the business of endorsing third party sites who's purpose is to earn IN GAME profits?

Basically you are giving people ISK for trying to make isk.

A smart business person would know the way to avoid all perceived impropriety would be not to deal with them at all. Are you telling me that you've tracked every isk that has gone into SomerBLINK and that not one isk has been RMT'ed, or gone to any person who has engaged in a EULA violation?

People have written extensively on this elsewhere, but there is absolutely no reason that a third part site should be chosen to handle such high value prizes. You do realize that there are places that these prizes are subject to federal taxes? Do SomerBLINK employees make enough game time value from their efforts that they would have to pay taxes on the value? Does Somer's restrictions on who can participate in their lotteries apply to these prizes and are those restrictions even legal in the 'real world'?

My point in this is that CCP is not just playing a game here, it is your business. You have now engaged in what amounts to a contract with SomerBLINK. They have even received rewards for their efforts (see other forums). Are you really willing to endorse them 100%? If so can we have at least some insight into how extensive your investigation of them was before you made this decision?

Not to mention the sheer foolishness of saying:

"These guys pay out isk on their in game lotteries all the time, we think they are terribly nice people and so we thought they would be perfect for giving away trips to Iceland."
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#700 - 2013-10-06 07:33:23 UTC
Argus Sorn wrote:
My point in this is that CCP is not just playing a game here, it is your business. You have now engaged in what amounts to a contract with SomerBLINK. They have even received rewards for their efforts (see other forums). Are you really willing to endorse them 100%? If so can we have at least some insight into how extensive your investigation of them was before you made this decision?

Can't discuss moderation doubtless.

Just trust ccp, they never did anything bad.

Making sure you never find out if possible is just another decision taken to enhance eve online

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