Intergalactic Summit

Revelation only comes in moments of pristine clarity,

One such personal moment of clarity reveals the truth that the underlying thinking that appears to govern the majority of participants in both the Intergalactic Summit and the Summit is that:

Any claim, no matter how preposterous, how unsubstantiated, how irrational, how unverifiable, how unobservable, how unrepeatable, is to be treated as the truth.

The impetus of this revelation comes when an Amarrian capsuleer claims they are a representative of the Theology Council, then one thinks indeed why not? There is little apparent difference to me with such a claim given, with just the Amarrian capsuleers on the IGS, the different titles and claims of nobility such as all these Earls, Barons, Dukes, Viscounts in addition to their attached status Holder status with lands and slaves owned -- even Godsflesh can be damned, why should it apply if it can be conveniently ignored? Just as much as it's simple enough to promote whatever brand of religious fundamentalism or sectarianism on the power of ones word of claim alone. No different indeed to anything else that is presented in the public domain even recently on the IGS: Dust mercenaries assassinating capsuleers. Single capsuleers having complete and total control over entire planetary governments and populations. Entire cities being devastated with populations in the millions in mere moments. Commanding vessels from a bridge without a pod or managing to survive their destruction without a neural burn.

Not the first time indeed an capsuleer has claimed special NGO status to explain their claim how they can manage to contravene State laws due to their summoned powers of attorney -- one known case for a Gallentean and now another for an Amarrian. The list really can go on for me, but the the important point I've come to realize is that there is no need to disabuse others of the fact they appear as Emperors with no Clothes with reason, skepticism, or rationality for most others wear equally fine raiments of grandiose delusions to cloak themselves in. What use is debate, discourse or discussion when it is predicated upon the foundations of what is essentially tabloid journalism where any claim becomes true through the use of an anonymous or unverified source, and if contrary facts are presented well, simply deny they exist, assert they aren't facts at all or simply ignore them when all else fails by proclaiming assertions louder.

The error to me, and to which I believe I have made, is to have accepted the continued denigration and assault upon the faculties of my own reason, intellect and rationality for so long. Far greater the fool I am for having believed there can exist any value in a venue when the parties involved appear to accept the devices of the charlatan, confidence-trickster, and propagandist as the norm in complement to that of the asylum where those belong who have come to actually truly believe the lies they have conjured in their own minds. If dishonesty and delusion are the only recourses left in a discussion; then far better to step away if only to retain a semblance of truth and sanity.

However it seems it is the capsuleers of the Amarr Empire most prone to making dishonest and delusional claims for nothing more than to affect how important they are in comparison to each other. Indeed, all that I see when Amarr discuss in public is the prolific exposition of claims to titular nobility, or any position of authority at all within the Empire. There is such irony that the very same Empire that professes to seek to bring unity to mankind is the one whose capsuleers appear to spend more time talking about their own self-importance than delivering any real message of worth, too busy arguing with each other not on the basis of fact or reason but rather whose unverified titles of authority make their unsubstantiated claims supposedly more believable.

If Amarr capsuleers on the IGS are to be taken as indicative of Imperial society it's no wonder to me how the Matari managed to push into the very heart of the Empire above Mekhios. I can just imagine the snippets from the Imperial Navy Command transcript logs:

"Who will command the fleet against these Matari?"

"I am the Admiral!"

"No, I am the Admiral!"

"I'm aware, but I have more years than you in the Navy. I will command."

"But are you not only an Earl?"

"Yes, what does that have to do with anything?"

"Well, I'm a Duke."

"I didn't know that, do you have any evidence that you are in fact a Duke?"

"You dare call me, the Duke Lord Admiral of the Fleet a liar? I find that offensive coming from a lowly Earl Lord Admiral of the Fleet."

"Sirs!, the Matari are destroying us we require leadership!"

"Silence! We must solve this matter of who is more important between us Admirals!"

"Chaplain, what do the Scriptures say of this leadership condundrum?"

"Actually, I'm not a chaplain, I'm the Viscount-Cardinal of the Theology Council."

"Is there even such a thing as a Viscount-Cardinal of the Theology Council?"

"You dare doubt the word of a Viscount-Cardinal and Grand Holy Inquisitor?"

"You're a Grand Holy Inquisitor, now too? I have not even heard of such a position!"

"Well you're not in the Theology Council now are you?"

[Continued]

So the Amarr culture adds great emphasis on titles and social status in a nutshell, and translates it on the IGS level too ? I am not sure what you are trying to hint at ?

It seems I've touched a nerve. I can only apologize if the presence of my ministry has made you uncomfortable. I've enumerated, several times elsewhere how to ascertain my credentials, however I suppose there are other logical methods to proving I who I am. I do thank you for moving this thread to its own thread, as it had quite taken over the one I use to enumerate doctrinal work.

It's been a strange ride, and this is not the first time my official status has been scrutinized. As a logical experiment, though, I do think questioning my official status is a somewhat remarkable reason for disbelieving me. I am, as anyone on the IGS can see, often in Caldari space while I preach on here. Surely, when I am not in my capsule, I would be killed or arrested regardless of my job title if that were so antithetical to the State's well-being. One would think that, if that is the case, I would be dead or arrested by now. I'm obviously not a soldier or hiding what I preach, so it would go to reason that I am obviously not going to be much of a physical threat or a covert operative.

I suppose I'm not entirely certain why, after hearing my methods and views here, the thing certain others (trust me that you are not alone) have found most questionable is my ordainment. Surely, that would not only be the least unbelievable thing about my work( that this is my actual job) and more than that, the least important thing about it (I don't think the Caldari would care about my ordainment if I broke their law on their space). One would assume that even if I were not a bishop, my ministry should have me killed in Caldari space if I were offending the local authorities with my message. Also, it isn't as if there are no officials of the Amarr government in Caldari space. We have diplomatic and joint industrial outposts.

I think, perhaps, you have somewhat attempted to avoid attacking my message and pointed towards something a bit more corporeal and then relating it to my message. That is something of a logical fallacy, that even if you were correct about me that it would go to show that I would then not represent Amarrian society, not perfectly represent it. Your distaste for my ministry is not something entire new, as I've faced in the past from others, most of whom do at some point begin attacking me personally rather than the ministry and then extrapolate from there.

It is not unexpected, really; it is human nature to lash out at things we initially despise. Rather than simply letting the faithful and I have our conversations, it is the nature of those who become angry at the concept to attack the perceived source of their hostility. If you'd really thought I was a worthless charlatan, it would be fair to assume you would have left me well enough alone with my ramblings to the people you would likewise obviously not believe existed.. I have only assumed, given the response I've engendered from you, that you must see me as some sort of legitimate representative of the Amarr Empire. Why be angry at our Empire because of people like me if I am simply some capsuleer with delusions?

As to, what I assume, is your likewise agitation with people such as Lady Odelya d'Hanguest, let me absolutely and irrevocably assure you that, given everything she has said so far, I have absolutely no reason whatsoever to doubt that she is a noble of the Khanid Kingdom. Indeed, she is exactly what I would imagine a Khanid noble would be. Almost stereotypically so.

Veikitamo, if you do still have questions about my veracity, I think I can assure you in this manner. I am presently heading towards Amarr Prime, where I will be at my family residence for three days. After that time, I will spend a day hopping around between Ikuchi and Niyabainen, then I will be at Jita for a further three days. At least three days in both our empires' spaces, largely spent out of the pod, should be enough that if either government found me to be falsifying or abusing my position, or even engendering the ill will of civil authorities, will be more than enough time to have me killed or arrested. I'll even leave the wooden sword at home.

Hopefully, that will give you some measure of assurance. Certainly, local authorities would have no problem arresting me if that was their intention. You will simply have to trust that the Caldari State should be efficient at being able to follow my flightplan and to be able to get a non-military capsuleer into captivity if they find my ministry harmful. Trust me when I say that, if I'd actually thought that would happen, I certainly would think them capable. Caldari police are exceptionally effective at their jobs.

I find it to be rather amusing and humorous. Add in the fact that there is certainly some truth to her words. In any case, Gesakaarin-haani should be the last person on this thread who should be called "traitorous scum." By the way, how is Heth doing these days?


As for the original content of this message, I would like to extend my thanks Gesakaarin-haani for allowing me to start my day off with an interesting perspective.

I guess this would be a poor time to declare myself Princess of Syndicate.

While I don't follow the Amarr religion, I am moved to say "AMEN SISTER!!!"

It has struck me for a long time that the ISG is often full of Amarrians having a big ol' pissing contest with each other and trying to prove that their wang is bigger that everyone elses.

That reminds me, did you want white flower petal confetti or dark-gold leaf confetti for the coronation ceremony?

I think you're going to have to claw that title from Ben Booley's cold, dead hands.

Yes it would, particularly since I've held that title for at least the last three and a half minutes.

nah, pink's not his color. A nice dark verdigris with silver highlights, maybe. Feminine, without being girlish.