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Oneida Inc. 79
Tuggboat Oneida Inc. Likes received: 79	#121 - 2013-10-05 09:02:20 UTC 1 How much more crying will we see as the rentals and moon spoils cluster like cottage cheese on an old ladies thighs

Tech Builds Pandemic Horde 8
Samantha Seraya Tech Builds Pandemic Horde Likes received: 8	#122 - 2013-10-05 09:02:56 UTC I think it would ok if CCP would ask for ISK in exchange for these ships but just to gift them stuff is not ok.

Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic 1,411
Jada Maroo Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic Likes received: 1,411	#123 - 2013-10-05 09:05:09 UTC \| Edited by: Jada Maroo For some reason, I'm not very offended by this. But I would be even less offended if I found a free Ishukone Scorpion waiting for me as a gift to soften the slight offense I feel.

Red Templar

Viziam

Amarr Empire

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#124 - 2013-10-05 09:07:13 UTC

Silvetica Dian wrote:

James Amril-Kesh wrote:

http://themittani.com/news/ccp-secretly-gifted-somer-blink-ishukone-scorpions

There are no words for how incredibly low you've sunk, CCP.

CCP rewards a site that is incredibly popular with players (i have never played on the site but i hear people discussing their wins daily) and presumably makes CCP a lot of money via plex sales. Some of these plex would probably not have been bought had it not been for gambling losses.
So what we have here is a business paying a bonus to another business both of which are popular with a community that buy their products.
Everything beyond that is jealousy as we can see from the "why can't i have one too" comments everywhere.

As i said, its not rewarding that is a problem. Its how it was done.

I would prefer this kind of things would be known to everyone. Preferably on official site. Make a section on website and mention ALL the rewards given out to such organizations. After all, CCp is not doing anything wrong, so why not use publicity out of this. Game company rewards game fansites, it should be good for them. Bug giving out rewards in secret is not good, its quite opposite.

[b]For Love. For Peace. For Honor.

For None of the Above.

For Pony![/b]

E6o5

Sebiestor Tribe

Minmatar Republic

Likes received: 357

#125 - 2013-10-05 09:07:49 UTC

LarcatOfZion wrote:

If anyone should be given free items from CCP it should be the FC's and alliance leaders who create content, Not some rubbish gamblng website, which makes more than enough isk as it is im sure.

Bullshit, without the grunt players FC alliance leaders would be nothing. So no usable items to any individual one. I would if feel concerned about medals or other decorations as they would give that person a kind of CCP approved sign which could be misused for scamming (nothing against scamming - but I want to show all this kind of thing can fire back in several ways)

Caldari Provisions Caldari State 1,268
dexington Caldari Provisions Caldari State Likes received: 1,268	#126 - 2013-10-05 09:11:48 UTC 12 all animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others. I'm a relatively respectable citizen. Multiple felon perhaps, but certainly not dangerous.

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Prince Kobol Likes received: 2,558	#127 - 2013-10-05 09:15:08 UTC 1 James Amril-Kesh wrote: Prince Kobol wrote: Yes, your problem is that their supposedly favoritism isn't aimed at you Of course, we can't possibly be angry about a ******* dumb change in CCP policy. It has to be that we're upset about not getting spaceship Thanks for making it clear to all why your upset :)

Anthony Blunt

Appenzeller Kantonal Bank

Likes received: 28

#128 - 2013-10-05 09:15:31 UTC

Prince Kobol wrote:

Out of curiosity, if the goonies are successful in their little mission to destroy Somer, will they replace the isk Somer provides in sponsoring player driven events?

Who stands to profit? Who is orchestrating the timing of these revelations. The mittani.com has revealed it's hand. I doubt that the goons want to run the lottery although it is not impossible. To me it seems more like an orchestrated attack on CCP in order to win some concessions somewhere else.

"Its all bout the money" or to quote "the Wire" "You follow the money you never know where it is going to lead"

"if you're not having fun in a sandbox, it's not the Sands fault" Jenn aSide

Prince Kobol

Likes received: 2,558

#129 - 2013-10-05 09:17:18 UTC

Kate stark wrote:

Prince Kobol wrote:

Kate stark wrote:

Jaun Pacht-Feng wrote:

Oh look!

More Goons upset with CCP Favouritism towards a group that isn't them.

Surprised!

how about you hop down from the "grr goons" bandwagon and actually look at the topic you're posting about?

Problem is, all this is just a goonies, well when I say goonies what I mean is Kittens being pissed that CCP have yet to create a statue in his honor in every system and have yet to rename Eve Online to "The Mittani is God Online"

The only reason they are going after Somer is because they can use the "They make a Profit" line and depict Somer as some Evil Organisation and make unproven accusations that its a cover for RMT.

The fact that Somer has donate hundreds of billions of isk to player sponsored events (more then any other entity in the history of Eve) is irreverent apparently.

except they aren't going after somer, so i direct you back to the whole "look at the topic you're posting about" part.

Lol... of course not

So the numerous posts from goonies saying how Evil somer is, how they are a cover for RMT and how anybody who supports them is a shrill on numerous threads is not going after somer...

Of course :)

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Rob Crowley State War Academy Likes received: 312	#130 - 2013-10-05 09:19:42 UTC 3 Anthony Blunt wrote: Who stands to profit? The game and all of its players. Quote: To me it seems more like an orchestrated attack on CCP in order to win some concessions somewhere else. Exactly. The concession being that they keep their fingers out of the sandbox and stop meddling with ingame competition.

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Arec Bardwin Likes received: 1,915	#131 - 2013-10-05 09:20:45 UTC 3 Nobody can dig a hole and bury themselves in as CCP

Lord Valian

Center for Advanced Studies

Gallente Federation

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#132 - 2013-10-05 09:21:29 UTC

Its completly unacceptable that you interfere like this in a PVP game. If it had been F2P - fine, do whatever you want, but in a game where everyone should be on equal terms as far as help from the developers goes, well if you cant see how this is insane then its just sad.

We need to protest this with something CCP will feel the consequences from, because this is overstepping their role far too much.

A 'NO-PLEX" week, where no one buys plex or renews their subscriptions with real money for a week or something like that would surely be felt.

James Amril-Kesh

Viziam

Amarr Empire

Likes received: 11,532

#133 - 2013-10-05 09:21:48 UTC

Prince Kobol wrote:

James Amril-Kesh wrote:

Prince Kobol wrote:

Yes, your problem is that their supposedly favoritism isn't aimed at you Blink

Of course, we can't possibly be angry about a ******* dumb change in CCP policy.
It has to be that we're upset about not getting spaceship

Thanks for making it clear to all why your upset :)

Thanks for playing dumb, that really progresses the discussion.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)

Red Templar

Viziam

Amarr Empire

Likes received: 348

#134 - 2013-10-05 09:22:16 UTC

Prince Kobol wrote:

And you are ofc not after "goonies" in your campaign Cool

You are defender of justice and freedom and truth. And not at all touched by evil goons in delicate places :)

[b]For Love. For Peace. For Honor.

For None of the Above.

For Pony![/b]

Tao Dolcino

Garoun Investment Bank

Gallente Federation

Likes received: 624

#135 - 2013-10-05 09:23:16 UTC

James Arget wrote:

Since apparently I'm the only CSM left awake, I'll share my personal thoughts on the matter. Keep in mind, we've yet to hear anything from CCP on this, so I'm pretty much shooting from the hip with the same knowledge you all have.

First off, let's look at the joint CSM statement which was recently released, which I agree with: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=281879&find=unread

In particular,

Quote:

2. Favoring one community fan site over others.

Issues (2) and (5) are business decisions that CCP has the right to make. We think they are a mistake, and hope that the uproar over this issue will cause CCP to re-evaluate these policies for future promotions. Supporting groups that have a clear educational/public service focus in-game is one thing; supporting a group that is distinctly for-profit -- and one that can use the ISK it generates to secretly support in-game groups -- breeds distrust for CCP in the community.

The Ishukone Watch Scorpion pretty much exists to be given away to community site. While it does have an in-game value, I think that for most recipients it's much more valuable to them as a token of the work they've invested in the EVE Community. Thus, I'm not bothered that people who help to run a far-reaching organization received them.

What I am bothered by is the number of people who didn't receive them. While many different entities have been named by players in this thread and via other media, CCP has a very nice list already made up that I can refer to:

Quote:

SOMER is on that list, and so is the SCL, both of whom have received their Ish Scorps. I think everyone else is long overdue. Getting a limited gift directly from CCP is a big deal, and giving it out so selectively cheapens the contributions of everyone else who has been otherwise acknowledged.

Edit: Let me tack this little gem from the original SOMER Community Spotlight in while I'm at it: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2286976#post2286976

You don't get it eh ?
WE DON'T WANT ANY FAVOURITISM !!!

Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel 700
Helicity Boson Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel Likes received: 700	#136 - 2013-10-05 09:28:17 UTC I'm very confused by this. Though we sometimes butt heads, Navigator normally strikes me as a somewhat reasonable human being. I can't imagine that no one at CCP realized that this would end up in a poostorm before they went ahead and gave these out.

knobber Jobbler

State War Academy

Caldari State

Likes received: 609

#137 - 2013-10-05 09:31:17 UTC

Anthony Blunt wrote:

Prince Kobol wrote:

Out of curiosity, if the goonies are successful in their little mission to destroy Somer, will they replace the isk Somer provides in sponsoring player driven events?

Remove the tin foil hat. TMC is a news site, this story gets hits because it's interesting news. Hits equals ad revenue, all the time CCP goes full ****** and provides a news site with worthy content it will get posted - oddly enough that is how news sites work. The only conspiracy here is the one of CCP's own creation.

Zloco Crendraven

BALKAN EXPRESS

Shadow Cartel

Likes received: 700

#138 - 2013-10-05 09:32:24 UTC

Quote:

Wait. Goons didn't get a spotlight? Aaaa that's why all this butthurt :D

BALEX, bringing piracy on a whole new level.

Prince Kobol

Likes received: 2,558

#139 - 2013-10-05 09:33:09 UTC | Edited by: Prince Kobol

Red Templar wrote:

Prince Kobol wrote:

And you are ofc not after "goonies" in your campaign Cool

You are defender of justice and freedom and truth. And not at all touched by evil goons in delicate places :)

Not at all, but then again I didn't start a personal crusade against SomerBlink because I feel I am a special bunny and I am angry and jealous that CCP haven't erected monuments in every system depicting me as a god :)

Also when I call you all "goonies" its more out of affection then anything malicious.

You just remind me of when my daughter was at playgroup, how all the kids used to hang on the coat tails of their playgroup leader

Was actually quite cute :)

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Kate stark Likes received: 1,564	#140 - 2013-10-05 09:34:06 UTC 4 Prince Kobol wrote: I didn't start a personal crusade against SomerBlink nor has any one else. Yay, this account hasn't had its signature banned. or its account, if you're reading this.

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