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Lutz Major

Austriae Est Imperare Orbi Universo

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#21 - 2011-11-10 05:02:49 UTC

Nerath Naaris wrote:

Vicker Lahn'se wrote:

I'm not sure if I would consider this plagiarism. It's embarrassing, but it doesn't seem like it would actually be illegal. Did CCP copyright their TOS? That would be kind of like trying to trademark the little symbol people put next to trademarked things.

I am pretty sure you cannot copyright such things as Terms of Service.
Assume, for example, a copyrighted account sharing clause: That would mean that other games cannot legally forbid this? That would be ridiculous.

But yes, it is embarassing.
But not uncommon. I know of one corp that has copypasted their Code of Conduct directly from another corp to the point where the original corp is still mentioned in the text......

You are mixing terms like copyrights and patents.

The TOS is intellectual property. The originator (I hope CCP) put effort and money into creating these terms and probably hired lawyers to check them out.
Only CCP has the right to use and copy (distribute) these specific terms.

Now someone comes along and steals those TOS. This is called plagiarism ... and is a crime in most parts of the world.

CCP Manifest

CCP Retirement Home

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#22 - 2011-11-10 15:15:56 UTC

We shot them (the company that makes it) this message.

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Star Vault:

We here at CCP couldn’t help but notice that our expert wordsmithing, legal poetry and cunning turns of phrase have been emulated with sincerest flattery by your technical writing and/or legal staff. In fact, ardent fans of our EULA have surfaced, themselves noticing your homage to our work. See their assessment here: http://massively.joystiq.com/2011/11/09/mortal-online-plagiarizes-eve-onlines-terms-of-service/

EVE Online is a notoriously dangerous universe. So we have to caution you -- in fact, we demand that you don’t follow our footsteps or use our copyrighted work. After all, internet spaceships are serious business, so probably best to keep our internet spaceship business out of your business language. Please stop using our legal agreements, and kindly remove our name from your website.

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What are people going to copy next... our spreadsheets?! Bear

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M1AU

Zappenduster Inc.

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#23 - 2011-11-10 16:57:52 UTC

CCP Manifest wrote:

This is a kind way of letting them know, way better than rushing in with the legal fist first! And it's good entertainment. Smile

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Renan Ruivo Forcas armadas Brave Collective Likes received: 1,019	#24 - 2011-11-10 17:29:23 UTC 1 BS you haven't spoke to them using those words. You are only allowed to be that witty with us! The world is a community of idiots doing a series of things until it explodes and we all die.

Barakkus

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#25 - 2011-11-10 17:42:36 UTC

CCP Manifest wrote:

But Battle for Serios or whatever makes me wince! Please nuke website from orbit :)

http://youtu.be/yytbDZrw1jc

Cpt Syrinx

Jovian Labs

Jovian Enterprises

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#26 - 2011-11-11 00:04:47 UTC

CCP Manifest wrote:

lmao

I would love to see more of these CCP-first-shot-across-the-bow shenanigans Smile

vs. this Battle for Serios debacle, for instance

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Greygal Redemption Road Affirmative. Likes received: 508	#27 - 2011-11-11 01:06:53 UTC 1 CCP Manifest wrote: What are people going to copy next... our spreadsheets?! Oh perish the thought! What you do for yourself dies with you, what you do for others is immortal. Free weekly public roams & monthly NewBro new player roams! Visit Redemption Road or join mailing list REDEMPTION ROAMS for information

Endeavour Starfleet

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#28 - 2011-11-11 02:45:31 UTC

CCP Manifest wrote:

OOOOh SNAP! Big smile

CCP and these fools at WrestleMania?

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Uskos New Ceres Economics and Logsitcs Likes received: 9	#29 - 2011-11-11 23:55:37 UTC 2 I suggest a hilmar vs "who ever is their ceo" rifter fight. If hilmar wins they need to change their TOS and if the other guy wins they get to keep it.

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Palovana Inner Fire Inc. Likes received: 360	#30 - 2011-11-12 02:51:01 UTC 1 How hard is it to :%s/EVE/Mortal/g anyway? Please support: export of settings in editable format Your stuff goes here.


Endeavour Starfleet Likes received: 968	#31 - 2011-11-12 05:22:02 UTC 1 Uskos wrote: I suggest a hilmar vs "who ever is their ceo" rifter fight. If hilmar wins they need to change their TOS and if the other guy wins they get to keep it. Hell no! Tag team match in a WWE ring. Hillmar and Sin Cara against those guys and Christian

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MotherMoon Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic Likes received: 1,517	#32 - 2011-11-12 08:57:51 UTC 1 Chess boxing match in order. http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1206/scimi.jpg

Logan LaMort

Screaming Hayabusa

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#33 - 2011-11-12 13:16:01 UTC

Uskos wrote:

I suggest a hilmar vs "who ever is their ceo" rifter fight. If hilmar wins they need to change their TOS and if the other guy wins they get to keep it.

It's kinda funny because EVE is what inspired Mortal Online in the first place, huge open world on one server, time based skills (that would train faster if you used them, so a hybrid, which to be honest is pretty nice), harsh consequences, a kind of concord in towns, similar PVP, when you die you lose all your stuff you're carrying etc.

It's also made by an Icelandic indie company... but if you've ever been on their forums and read their dev posts, this TOS ripoff wouldn't surprise you.

Shame because MO could be a really cool game, like EVE + Morrowind if it was made with a company that really knew what it was doing.

But in response to quoting you, it could actually be an interesting fight, in fact I bet the CEO of their company plays EVE more than Hilmar... afterall, it's not like they're busy writing their own TOS or anything Lol

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Drifterin Thedark Likes received: 51	#34 - 2011-11-12 20:58:41 UTC 1 As punishment they should be forced to work for CCP free.

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Grideris The Scope Gallente Federation Likes received: 763	#35 - 2011-11-13 15:06:10 UTC 1 MotherMoon wrote: Chess boxing match in order. This is the only proper way to settle this matter. Precedent has already been set. http://www.dust514.org - *the* unofficial forum for everything DUST 514 http://www.dust514base.com - the blog site with everything else DUST 514 you need