Player Features and Ideas Discussion

From looking at the numbers freighter runs are going to be an even greater pain... especially at the short and medium warp distances. dont like that. while the speeding up of the small stuff is pretty cool.

Heh, and they thought I was fast before.... mwwwahahahahahahahaha!

My poor slow-ass freighter

The thing's slow enough as it is, is it really necessary to add about another 1/3 to average gate-gate warps? Watching a freighter fly is already less entertaining than watching grass grow (the grass is faster), making it even slower to move ore/minerals/manufactured goods to a trade hub is not going to do anything to make the game more engaging or fun.

The miners isn't as much of an issue as the hauler, any mid sized to large scale mining operation use freighters and rorq/orcas for hauling ore. Which incidently became alot more dangerous in the patch when grav sites can be scanned down with the normal system scanner.

Now you get a ceptor that can blitz through systems in seconds, open up system scanner and warp to the grave site, and ontop of that, the freighters and rorqs/orcas are even slower. It already takes a freighter some where between 2-3 mins from it enters warp from the station / Pos until it lands on the grav site and have aligned out. Even if you have a scout next door you have no chance of saving the freighter when a ceptor can fly trough how many systems in 3 mins? And you can't even bubble the gates to slow it down..

I am not saying the warp speed changes are a bad idea, but if this is to be implemented without completely rendering null sec mining useless you have to do some adjustments to mining.

I would suggest making it so you have to scan down grav sites again and possibly increasing the ore bay on the orca / rorqual to lessen their exposure and maybe giving them a sensor strenght bonus so they can't be scanned down that easily when they are in the grav.

Not sure if it's already been asked or if it even matters, but will these changes also affect warping for probes as well?

Aw man, that sucks. Are these changes not coming to low sec?

Not really. A RL freighter is designed for cargo capacity and fuel efficiency, not speed. This applies to transport by sea, air and ground. If you need to move something faster, you don't use a freighter.

Warp speed changes, thumbs up!

Will dropping out of warp be instant? Edit: How will these changes effect acceleration and deceleration?
Will rancer cease to smartbomb? <-- lol

Also some ideas for rigs...
Increase MJD range or decrease minimum warp distance. Can't think of much more than that other than the already completed rigs to increase warp speed...

Blockade runnners will be faster than everything except an interceptor/cov ops.

Just like they were before.

A couple related thoughts:

Reduce warp speed by 50%+ on all ships in addition to this change you have proposed because travel is too easy and quick overall and trivializes locality a great deal.

I do not see a reason why craft other than Interceptors need to be very fast at warping, subtle differences in the rest of the ships is adequate, interceptors being the one class which can have quite good burst warp properties because it is essentially their role.

Increase the initial capacitor cost for warping significantly, we want ships to take a breather sometimes and not be able to zip around like the roadrunner indefinitely by default.

- Not only does this increase the chance for interaction and conflict anywhere in space but it also increases the use for stations and provides a way to increase interaction there as well, promoting PvP.
- This change also reduces the possibility of just warping off mid combat and increases the need to competently manage your capacitor for any ship and your location in space, you can't just trust on warping out to safety when you recklessly zip through gates and ignore your capacitor.

Add a capacitor cost to propulsion of any kind 0 GJ/s(stationary) -10 GJ/s(max standard propulsion) BS propulsion cost, 0 GJ/s(no warp) -100GJ/s(max warp) BS warp cost. Not kidding.

- This would increase the value in capacitor management and the value of capacitor enhanced/durable fits as well as balance mobility with endurance.


This is all about consequences of locality of which there is little at the moment and prolonged mobility of which there is too much of, travel is quite trivial and just jumping/flying around like a headless chicken will avoid most combat with ease, you should be able to avoid combat initially through mobility but not permanently unless specifically fitting for endurance.


Yes, making the game a bit more difficult will most certainly make the game feel more significant(read: better), at least that is how I feel.

I won't go into the warp trail/warp combat part because we all know that's not going to happen... in a while... but I feel in warp battles/warp trail capacitor economy and warp trail breaking would prove invaluable as an addition to interaction in EVE.