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[Rubicon] Command Ship Models

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Shamus en Divalone
The Clandestine Forge
#281 - 2013-10-04 07:21:42 UTC
If there is a new model for command ships then maybe you should wait to change them, tho I have always believed there should be a 2 models.

I'll carry on training to a command ship when the skills don't require me to train all the Link skills when I will only ever use 2 on a command ship.
Mr Floydy
Questionable Ethics.
Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
#282 - 2013-10-04 09:06:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Mr Floydy
Asbo, Hell yes. Myrm, oh yeaaaa. NIghthawk.... I kinda liked the Ferox with that paint job. I'll miss the Sleipnir :(

I'd rather new models, but if this change does go through, can we consider adding some extra bits to the models? Similar to how the HACs have extra boosters and such? The proposed Sleipnir model looks quite bland imo.
MisterNick
The Sagan Clan
#283 - 2013-10-04 09:46:39 UTC
Eos looks great, it's just a shame the CreoDron colours are so dull compared to the others. Abso looks good too.

"Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom."
alexi turov
Neutronium Alchemist's
#284 - 2013-10-04 11:00:22 UTC
Already swapped my space chicken for an Astarte based on the hull change.
To be honest, Absolution and Sleipnir models shouldn't be changed just for the sake of changing them.

Also; why does everything Minmatar have to be painted to look like a stick (or mossy stick, navy issue?) Some WWII Invasion stripes, battle markings or something bold just to break up the browny, brown camo.
Cassius Invictus
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#285 - 2013-10-04 11:01:39 UTC
MisterNick wrote:
Eos looks great, it's just a shame the CreoDron colours are so dull compared to the others. Abso looks good too.


No it doesn't. Red & gold looks good on Prophecy hull but not so much on Harbi. Besides Harbi hull is kinda strange looking (someone motioned helicopter without rotor...). I want new models. Besides what is the rationale behind this change? Like seriously...?
Kagura Nikon
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#286 - 2013-10-04 11:07:41 UTC
The sleipnir painting is HORRIBLE.



IAnd the hurricane does nto look like a ship with huge shield boostign bonus.

But i think its fair because now the nerfed sleipnir (because it was nerfed proportionally to other CS ) will be on same hull as the overnerfed hurricane (that went from most used BC to I never see any around since others are better on everything)

"If brute force does not solve your problem....  then you are  surely not using enough!"
Galmas
United System's Commonwealth
#287 - 2013-10-04 11:17:38 UTC
well...

i dont know guys, i always feel bad when i post like this... but don't you have anything better to do. Freshly painted models of ships we know since years... erm, ok.

why not invest that time in ... maybe... POS, yay! that would be a great idea, wouldnt it. I could imagine something like.... access lists... where... i could... just put character names in... just .. like .... in a ..... chat channel access list... nah... maybe not.... that sounds too easy... alrighty... freshly painted ship models then... cowl...


Regards
Gal
Katabrok First
Apukaray Security
#288 - 2013-10-04 11:24:45 UTC
So'Cari wrote:
The models are perfectly fine and whilst it's a shame to lose the iconic Sleipnir it's nothing game breaking.

That being said this is yet another case of having the wrong development priorities. New models aren't contributing to the illusive 'long term vision' (which increasingly sounds like a poor excuse for the complete lack of meaningful short-term development), they don't fit the model of 'themed expansions' and it goes without saying that they contribute nothing in the way of new gameplay options.

I would much prefer future dev time to be spent on balance (great work so far with ships), quality of life improvements and new gameplay features (silly mini-games need not apply).

Of course, and then we'd have graphical artists making balance changes. Let's all focus in this!
Galmas
United System's Commonwealth
#289 - 2013-10-04 11:27:22 UTC
Katabrok First wrote:
So'Cari wrote:
The models are perfectly fine and whilst it's a shame to lose the iconic Sleipnir it's nothing game breaking.

That being said this is yet another case of having the wrong development priorities. New models aren't contributing to the illusive 'long term vision' (which increasingly sounds like a poor excuse for the complete lack of meaningful short-term development), they don't fit the model of 'themed expansions' and it goes without saying that they contribute nothing in the way of new gameplay options.

I would much prefer future dev time to be spent on balance (great work so far with ships), quality of life improvements and new gameplay features (silly mini-games need not apply).

Of course, and then we'd have graphical artists making balance changes. Let's all focus in this!



well release some graphics artis, hire some game designers... or software developers... maybe?!
Lina Theist
Running out of Space
EDGE Alliance
#290 - 2013-10-04 12:00:35 UTC
[Want to trade] Nighthawk for Vulture

Perhaps it makes sense, but I do not like it. No sir
GREYBOBSASS
Doomheim
#291 - 2013-10-04 12:26:53 UTC
The sleip and drake are disgusting,
You ****** up my EOS
abso doesnt look like it should (not bulky enuff)
Rothwald
Inglourious Squirrels
That Escalated Quickly.
#292 - 2013-10-04 13:12:13 UTC
My poor Sleipnir...don't do that. That simple paintjob is not badass enough, it's just a spotted Hurricane.

Make the Hurricane black with blue lights, like the Claymore, i think i could settle with that. Cool
thoth rothschild
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#293 - 2013-10-04 13:41:25 UTC
I'm very mixed.

Eos = great
sleipnir = ok
absolution = no
nighthawk = DON'T
Kirith Kodachi
Stay Frosty.
A Band Apart.
#294 - 2013-10-04 13:45:18 UTC
Absolutely, do this, please.

DO IT NOW! Big smile
So'Cari
State War Academy
Caldari State
#295 - 2013-10-04 14:00:46 UTC
Katabrok First wrote:
So'Cari wrote:
Stuff.

Of course, and then we'd have graphical artists making balance changes. Let's all focus in this!

Balance changes are all crowd-sourced from F&I and/or "famous PvPers" anyway Lol.

Seriously though, I'm just making the point that - as with Incarna and walking in stations - there can be changes which are perfectly fine per se but aren't the best changes which could have been made. I think that's useful player feedback.

[Suppose you gave me a list of 100 possible changes. If all I do is sort them into 'like' and 'dislike' it will be pretty hard for you to decide which 10 or so to work on. But if I rank them 1 - 100 it's very easy to decide what to work on. So comparative feedback is useful.]

How CCP choose to treat that feeback, how they balance it with their own ideas on what changes to make, how they distribute their budget and who they hire and fire is all important but not really something many of us can have an informed opinion on.

Also I don't like the new Sleipnir Straight (+1 for a mocked-up Claymore version if that's possible)
Wes Vyvorant
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#296 - 2013-10-04 14:20:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Wes Vyvorant
WTS cyclone BPO. Don't think i'll bother with a huricane BPO. Some bored little brat at CCP might think of a new model next year.

Edit:
your new sleipnir will also be more expensive
Kane Fenris
NWP
#297 - 2013-10-04 14:38:56 UTC
thoth rothschild wrote:
I'm very mixed.

Eos = great
sleipnir = ok
absolution = no
nighthawk = DON'T


Eos = great
sleipnir = NO!!!!
absolution = cool
nighthawk = NO!!!
Ariesen Serenity
SRE Brotherhood
#298 - 2013-10-04 15:14:33 UTC
Rivr Luzade wrote:
Besides, CCP has no excuses for not introducing new models. Not only do they give us new ships with Rubicon, they (haux or not) also have plans to change other models. And they don't even have to create them themselves (lazy bums). I hope, I don't have to remember CCP of their Create A Starship contest from a couple of years ago? In case I have to: use the Stahlvogel, Evangelos, Precursor and Demora or just scroll through the tons of awesome designs there.


Thank you for linking those. They are beautiful, and would be awesome to fly! I think it would create a huge demand for these C-ships though. Before changing the hulls to those, I think 4 more would need to be chosen for the other C-ships. So to lessen the demand...just use the tier 3 until such time as you can change all 8 C-ships.
Jerick Ludhowe
Internet Tuff Guys
#299 - 2013-10-04 15:22:18 UTC
Fozzie, Any chance of getting some "unique" flare to these ships as well? As an example, kronos bridge is different than other megathron models. Can we expect to see small model variations like this for commands and other t2s in the future?
Ekaterina 'Ghetto' Thurn
Department 10
#300 - 2013-10-04 16:50:37 UTC
I have no position on the Absolution, Eos, & Nighthawk ship models as I probably won't fly them. As for the Sleipnir I am definitely NOT in favour of changing its model into a Hurricane. How adding a third type of Hurricane into the game in addition to the standard and fleet ones is beyond me. It would not in any way add 'variety' in terms of ship models to the game.

Your comments in the OP suggest that you are not necessarily in favour of desecrating the Sleipnir model so I'm not sure why you are pushing for this idea. Maybe the art department have run out of work to do?

I think CCP's guiding rule should be to fix things that are broken first. The Sleipnir is an iconic ship model rivalling the Rifter and should not be touched again. Making some of the Minmatar ships almost black in colour was enough damage to our ships. Please don't take the Sleipnir away from us. Cry

We all know things that are genuinely broken in the game *glances at Corp Roles & Permissions* so please consider fixing genuinely broken parts of the game first before wrecking unbroken parts on a whim.

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