Player Features and Ideas Discussion

The problem with WiS is the crowd that wants it will not be happy with just WiS. They want a skill tree for it and combat for it and boarding actions for it and exploration content for it and all of that will have impact on eve play on server loads on players not fighting in space ships anymore etc...

It is not enough to simply have WiS they will not stand for it just like you will not stand for not having WiS in the first place.
You just keep pushing for more. It is not going to happen ever. And yet you are still here after what 8 years?
So I guess eve is working for you just fine the way it is.

Like anything, you're going to get varied opinions on it, but I don't really think that most players looking for WiS are expecting it to include combat, etc. Interaction with station features and social interactions with other players, yes. Exploration, maybe; tactical displays of space combat/Dust514 activities could be good, but that's about it. I'm not expecting it to be anything that intrudes upon or overshadows EVE as it stands, but maybe that's just me.

Yes, I am still here after 8 years - sort of. In that time, I have unsubbed and resubbed a number of times. I'd have to do the math, but I'm sure I've spent less time over those years with an active subscription than I have without. Features like WiS would probably have kept me subbed in more consistently. So is it working fine for me as is? Not really; it's been enough to keep me coming back now and then, but eventually it loses my interest.

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WiS =/= unicorns and guitar hero

also, no matter how you look at it (a correctly implemented WiS) would = more players = more money from subs, CCP likey

CQ is out, but i don't rage quit because someone else is in CQ, since it doesn't affect my space pew pew

as long as WiS wouldn't affect me, why should i care if someone else is getting a hard on from it?

you can do silly things like play market (playing market on a pvp space pixels game? who knew!) on eve, but i don't go and rage since it doesn't involve explosions, to each their own




i think the combat thing was brought up cause it would be silly if, in space player A and B were in a war, yet in station, they would be chill, and you know lore and ****

i'd have a problem if say, WiS were introduced and flipping stations/killing POS'/etc required an alliance/corp to then dock up and continue leet pvp in a 1st/3rd person shooter eve style

because #1 that would be ******** and #2 i suck at shooters that don't simply require me to press F1

am i doin it rite?

Well now, you are in luck as it turns out when you want to do your first person style game play you can just log onto Dust.
Play that til you want back into spaceships then come back to eve. You can have it all right now today. You can even shoot at other people in dust complete with a skill tree even! How awesome is that! CCP even has its own servers just to support it!

Only apparent to those who can't reason well.

EVE needs new players. The right kind of new players. For purposes of this discussion, that means players who like big spaceships (thelittle spaceship guys will have to wait for EVE: Valkyrie or SC lol). The people who like Feet (foot fetish freak bastids) can play any othe the thousands of games that are about walking/running.

That's a lot of excuse making. The point is that if E&B was so great, you wouldn't have to have fans propping up it's shattered remains lol. Someone would be making money off it....like CCP is with EvE.

One of the things that makes EvE great is it's laser focus on Spaceships and the Captains of Spaceships. When they started to lose that focus, we the community of imaginary space captains gently nudged them back to the holy path.

And we'll do it again if we have to.

The people that want that don't want EvE.



But it's this part that is the most important thing you've said, because it speaks to the real truth.

I haven't been playing for 8 years. I started playing EvE in June of 2007. With the exception of a few vacations, a few internt outages, a couple house moves and unaviodable family obligations (grrr don't women know that Valentines day is a made up holiday???) I've played EvE every single day, not one unsub, hell, I maintain 4 accounts now.

And I've spent all of 32 seconds in the captains quarters...

It's that way because I like what EvE has to offer (spaceships, if i want to play walking around, I get up and go outside and....walk around. Too muh sunlight though).
You said so yourself, most of you 8 years has actually been unsubbed. Does it ever strike you (and folks like you) that maybe EvE isn't the game you're looking for? Many us who are actual practicing EvE fanatics like our spaceship only game. CCP devoting time and manpower to making game content for people who don't like the core spaceship theme of the game is just a dumb idea.

Somehow there are people like this in every game (the never satisfied/want more people). Hell, some of the World of Tanks boards I frequnet have people calling for bloody freaking INFANTRY...it's World of TANKS for jebus cripe's sake.

I, for one, find that WiS would be nothing but a natural extension of game mechanics. It would essentially consist in transforming the already existing station-based player and game interactions into a "palpable", physical thing. Essentially, as it has been pointed out, it would be increasing the level of immersion of the game. Nothing stands to be lost in its implementation, specially considering that most of the heavy lifting has already been done, with the basic mechanics of WiS already in display in the form of Captain Quarters.
Personally, I find it perplexing that CCP would allow players to put a MASSIVE amount of effort and detail into creating their characters and then wouldn't provide a game environment in which that effort could be appreciated. After all, many people spend hours creating and refining every single aspect of their capsuleers (which the game allows, with a unique and extensive editing interface) only to have this effort reflected in nothing but a portrait other players can see. Captain Quarters hardly count, since only the character in question can access them.

Think what you will, but the idea of two individuals discussing the possibilities of a massive corporation merger, face to face in their characters, sitting next to a massive window overlooking space, practically gives me goosebumps. Immersion is everything. It's the reason we spend hours and hours of our time looking at a computer screen.

1. You don't wanna know.

2. Which is perfectly fine. Fits right in with the concept I had in mind. Being able to associate an actual body with a voice is increasing immersion. Sure, the lips not moving would be odd, but I'm sure a workaround could be found xD

If wasn't that 2011 was the best freaking year for CCP in terms of increased revenues (+5.9 million USD relative to 2010) and end of year profits (+3.5 million USD).

Or, put in other terms:

Incursion + Incarna = +5.9 million USD in revenues, +3.5 million comprehensive income
Crucible + Inferno = +1.1 million USD in revenues , +0.1 million comprehensive income (after accounting for increased development costs)

Where's the wrecking disaster now?