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Rubicon Expansion - Personal Depot Question

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Adunh Slavy
#81 - 2013-09-30 15:17:02 UTC
Thought of a good name for these things. Junkyard Dawg (Deployable Automated Wreck Gatherer)

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#82 - 2013-09-30 15:43:09 UTC
CCP Paradox wrote:
Rylos Zathrasi wrote:
Will this structure allow T3 Strategic Cruisers to refit subsystems (inside or out of a wormhole)?

Subsystems is a different story, at the moment no the structure will not allow that. Once we do decide to do T3 subsystem refit though, it will affect all fitting services while in space.

Quick edit: We have decided to do T3 subsystem refits, it's just a matter of deciding when to do it.

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Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#83 - 2013-09-30 19:18:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Infinity Ziona
CCP Fozzie wrote:
Witchking Angmar wrote:
I understood the personal depot cannot be scanned by probes, but what about dscan?


Where did you get that idea from?

It would be good. There was a time where we found unmanned ships in safes without any probing system. That took skill not just a probing alt.

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Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#84 - 2013-10-03 22:10:35 UTC
Was just wondering regarding the scanning down of and destruction of these modules. Would it be possible to have an alt in a blockade runner or deep space transport deploy it, and then scoop it after refitting?

That would solve problem of them being destroyed, gonna need transport to carry fittings and ammo any way.

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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
#85 - 2013-10-04 20:37:25 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Was just wondering regarding the scanning down of and destruction of these modules. Would it be possible to have an alt in a blockade runner or deep space transport deploy it, and then scoop it after refitting?

That would solve problem of them being destroyed, gonna need transport to carry fittings and ammo any way.


CCP's way would be to make them 100 m3 larger than the largest stealth transport's hold, so you're forced to bring in a industrial... Twisted

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Kirryan
Steel Winters Stellar Enterprises
#86 - 2013-10-04 23:49:59 UTC
Just a very tenuous thought, but what if....

... if these are part of a modular POS system, *and* the future POS system will be similar to the concept of kinda space cities or towns or something, as was mentioned in some interview a long while ago then..

Combine with the idea of destructible stations. Not doable at the moment.

But if a staging POS becomes a large collection of personal arrays and hangars and whatnot, all individually anchorable + linked structures - *where people keep all of their stuff* .. then, if bits of it get blown up, and *people loose their stuff with it* .. That would create come awesome incentive to band together and defend these new POS amalgam's of individually owned bits and pieces..
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#87 - 2013-10-04 23:52:46 UTC
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Was just wondering regarding the scanning down of and destruction of these modules. Would it be possible to have an alt in a blockade runner or deep space transport deploy it, and then scoop it after refitting?

That would solve problem of them being destroyed, gonna need transport to carry fittings and ammo any way.


CCP's way would be to make them 100 m3 larger than the largest stealth transport's hold, so you're forced to bring in a industrial... Twisted

make it the size of a level 5 ihub upgrade

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Akrasjel Lanate
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Immemorial Coalescence
#88 - 2013-10-05 15:29:43 UTC
When we will get a DevBlog and/or a thread about the depot and other new structures with stats and stuff ? Blink

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SharkNado
#89 - 2013-10-05 15:39:39 UTC
I would just like to know if it will fit in a frigate hold. I hope it will.

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Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
#90 - 2013-10-05 16:32:30 UTC
Akrasjel Lanate wrote:
When we will get a DevBlog and/or a thread about the depot and other new structures with stats and stuff ? Blink


Later than you want, sooner than November 19th. Smile

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Udonor
Doomheim
#91 - 2013-10-05 17:55:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Udonor
Bubanni wrote:
will we be able to scan what is inside them?, to find out if they are worth reinforceing? and if yes? will there be loot dropped?



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Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#92 - 2013-10-05 19:25:18 UTC
Some of us are very interested to hear exactly how these things will work, all I can currently go on is a couple of sarcastic comments which is about par for the course, especially in terms of something that actually gives me a reason to keep playing.

For what its worth I have the following points to make:

I take it that CCP Fozzie's comment indicates that it can be scanned down, first of all I hope its a real pig to scan down. Next point, if you have made it scannable in anyway shape or form, please make it so it can fit packaged in a Giant Secure Container, which of course gives me options, however if you don't want to do this then make it fit in a base transport ship, if you do not do this then it will be another useless addition to the game.

I don't mind if you make it more challenging to transport as long as it cannot be scanned down.

So waiting for details with impatience... Sad

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Raely Reborn
State War Academy
Caldari State
#93 - 2013-10-07 15:33:59 UTC
RAGEEEEE that T3 subsystem refitting wont be fixed. A fitting service that doesn't allow the fitting of a certain class of ship. RIDICULOUS!!!!

Please fix the broken fitting tool instead of adding more broken fitting tools to the game.
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#94 - 2013-10-07 15:56:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Tau Cabalander
So a depot will have storage, but will it have storage for a few ships, like a SMA or just hangar space like a CHA / PHA?

I think it would be awesome if a depot had enough room for say 2 battleships (enough for 1 battleship and a few other smaller ships). More storage of course would be more awesome Bear
Arden Bastilla
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#95 - 2013-10-07 17:49:41 UTC
My question is when I deploy this do I have to bookmark it to find it again?
Does it show up somewhere like in Assets as it's own location?
When deployed can you have it ask you to auto bookmark it?

I'd hate to put a bunch of stuff in this and then lose it Shocked
Samuel Sachs
#96 - 2013-10-08 19:31:01 UTC
Hey, awesome item, but CCP, please give us DETAILs, im very intersted in the mass or capacity from the Personal Depot.

What we need ?
Anchoring LvL ?
How long i have to wait after launching and can fitt my ship ?
Only I can use or can also be someone else?

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Marsan
#97 - 2013-10-09 17:11:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Marsan
CCP Fozzie wrote:
The fitting service provided by the Depot will be similar to that provided by a SMA or Carrier.
The specific roadblock that has thus far prevented us from enabling Strategic Cruiser subsystem refitting at those services still exists, and thus the Depot will unfortunately not allow refitting of Strategic Cruiser subsystems at the time of Rubicon's launch.


Which basically makes the bloody thing more and more useless. Basically it's an easily scanable loot piñata. How exactly is this an improvement over using a container. My containers are unscanable, and protected in HS. All I'm really getting in exchange is the ability to refit my ship, which is of questionable value. It's pretty rare I want to refit a ship that is not a T3 as like most people I have a fit for a given ship and I stick with it. The only people I know who regularly refit are mission runners (who are in HS with stations), and people traveling in dangerous areas (traveling a lot make this useless).


Why not let us anchor a POS in deep space, and anchor containers inside POSes? Heck why not let us anchor this thing in a POS so we can actually have personal storage in wspace rather than a crappy shared module? Why not give us a smaller (than an Orca) ship with a hanger? Can we store and swap ship as that's the only thing that would make it better than a container. Of course that makes it just that much more of a loot piñata.

PS- Of course if you fix the T3 then you can likely fix for POS maintenance arrays which pushes this towards useless loot piñata.

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Marsan
#98 - 2013-10-09 17:18:19 UTC
CCP Paradox wrote:
Rylos Zathrasi wrote:
Will this structure allow T3 Strategic Cruisers to refit subsystems (inside or out of a wormhole)?

Subsystems is a different story, at the moment no the structure will not allow that. Once we do decide to do T3 subsystem refit though, it will affect all fitting services while in space.

Quick edit: We have decided to do T3 subsystem refits, it's just a matter of deciding when to do it.


Sorry Paradox, but that's just another way of saying never or in a couple years. I seem to remember something about personal ship storage at a POS whatever happened to that?

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Djana Libra
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#99 - 2013-10-09 17:22:49 UTC
Raely Reborn wrote:
RAGEEEEE that T3 subsystem refitting wont be fixed. A fitting service that doesn't allow the fitting of a certain class of ship. RIDICULOUS!!!!

Please fix the broken fitting tool instead of adding more broken fitting tools to the game.


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empyriosis Bheskagor
Black Crown Society
#100 - 2013-10-09 17:28:35 UTC
Marsan wrote:
Sorry Paradox, but that's just another way of saying never or in a couple years. I seem to remember something about personal ship storage at a POS whatever happened to that?


They, uh, added it. Ship Maintenance Array