Ships & Modules

Double post.


TD;DR :
dp.

edit : why the f*** is there someone's signature in my posts ?

Huuurrr me sorry me mistake retar-getting delay and scan res penalty.

/engages covert ops cloaking to lurk moar.

See, the thing is, I have tested this. Breaking cloak and re-cloaking leave you visible on the overview / Dscan for about 2-5seconds, depending on factors server-side. More often than not, it is 2 or 3 seconds.

You have to be spamming that button like an insane ************ to catch it.

This also assumes, said man of evil intent didn't just spawn his C(x) static, insert cloaky alt, then check back every 15 minutes.

On a long enough timeline, your survival rate is 0%, no matter what steps you take.

Also the rest of my post is perfectly legit. Unless you're on a Red Bull IV and staring at your overview with matchsticks under your eyelids, you WILL fail to react in time to a bump tackle.

I guess the final comment to make: of COURSE every hostile WH spawning into your system is within DScan range of your anom. That's how it works

Not really, no.

Ultimately the measures you are taking would mean that you are safe from attackers nearly all of the time but there are many variables you cannot control (such as you being someone elses static).

Anything other than INSANE Dscan mashing, and you don't even need to be that good to pull off a gank. You can combat probe leaving the probes on Dscan for less than 5 seconds. You can enter into a WH from a K162 that is offscan. You can enter ON SCAN and simply not be noticed for the 2seconds you were visible.* You can be pre-camped. Dozens of other things, too.

TBH the best way to stay safe, is the method least used. Deep space probes.

Set one to 256AU, ping, ignore all results.

Re-ping as often as you like. As soon as you see something, stop your ****. It's liable to be a K162 spawning.

The DSP (or combat, if less than 64au wide) technique will catch the WH spawning, and will almost never give the gankers time to form up and get you.

TBQFH ... it would be a lot more fun in Wspace if more people had a clue as to how to stay safe. Our (small) corp must gank something like 5 Tengu's a month, and I honestly can't think of a single time that one has escaped.

You also have to look at this systemically. Would I bother to camp a WH if I knew the occupants were using T2 fit drakes? Would I be more likely to camp the same WH if I had an idea they ran sites in Tengus?

A Tengu in a C1/C2 is a gank magnet that barely does the job any better - which is why they're a poor choice IMO.

* advanced tip for gankers: rename your ship such that it's name matches the name of a celestial body. "J123456 Star" gets glossed over pretty damn easily if they're weary from mashing the DScan.

Personally, I sort d-scan by type, for just this reason. But, I suppose there are some people out there who either don't even know you can designate how to sort the list or just like to live on the wild side and sort it by name.

Also, rather than scrolling the list looking for new items, I would assume most people just watch the scroll bar itself. If that moves, changes, size, etc. there is something new and you need to be warping. Can worry about what that new stuff is after you land are safe.

On this note, if the wormhole you're in is occupied by a different corp that uses a naming pattern in their ships (many do for dscan reasons), copying it, especially if it contains special characters they don't expect someone else to copy, can work wonders. It's not as reliable as celestials ofc, but it works where it counts.