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Making a null sec scout alt
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Scorth Aumer
Nova Wolves
#1 - 2013-10-03 15:11:15 UTC
As the title says how long would it take to make a scout alt that can survive in null sec (mostly due to not being seen :p) what ship and skills would you guys say I should build for? this alt is a completely clean slate no skills at all and is Minmartar. I understand a cloaked ship would be best but that takes at least a month and was wondering if there was anything I could train for quickly.
Abdiel Kavash
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#2 - 2013-10-03 15:29:50 UTC
In order of skill training required:

Shuttle < TI frigate with a MWD < covops frigate < interdiction nullified TIII cruiser
RavenPaine
RaVeN Alliance
#3 - 2013-10-03 15:34:53 UTC
I'm not sure *exactly*, but I think you can do a covert ops pilot in about a month.
I just did 1... but I didn't keep track of the time-span.

My thinking is: 1 month or 2.. who cares. What's more important is that you end up with a useful, helpful alt, that might save your main. Train it to scan or light cyno's. Give it some weapons too.
Scorth Aumer
Nova Wolves
#4 - 2013-10-03 15:43:36 UTC
Thanks for replying it seems ill have to try and get a month of training in Shocked but oh well could i ask that someone links some fits for a covert op ships that would make it fast and easy to get in and out of null sec. (Im not expecting to survive well placed gate camps with only a month training but i want to atleast out run the sloppy ones :p
Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
#5 - 2013-10-03 15:54:44 UTC

Standard Helios Fit:

[Helios, Battle Helios]
Damage Control II
Micro Auxiliary Power Core I
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II

1MN Afterburner II
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Balmer Series Tracking Disruptor I, Optimal Range Disruption Script
Balmer Series Tracking Disruptor I, Optimal Range Disruption Script
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I

150mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
150mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S

Small Hybrid Burst Aerator I
Small Hybrid Collision Accelerator I

Hobgoblin II x1
RavenPaine
RaVeN Alliance
#6 - 2013-10-03 15:58:53 UTC
If you don't have evemon, load it up and start playing with it. It's an awesome EVE-App. Find it somewhere in this forum. Most pilots will look at it daily if they have it.

Go to the cov-ops ship you like, add all to the plan, then go to the cov-ops cloak, add to plan.

add nav skills, cyno skills, missile skills, whatever you like to make your ship better.
Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
#7 - 2013-10-03 16:02:49 UTC

More seriously, this would be a pretty reasonable cheetah fit. The covert cyno has a long training time, and if you don't need/want that you can be in this ship much quicker. There is also a lot of personal preferences for fitting covops depending on what you plan to do with it. (tackle, scan only, plex, whatever)

[Cheetah, Scanner]
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Micro Auxiliary Power Core I
Nanofiber Internal Structure II

Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I
Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
Upgraded EM Ward Amplifier I
Upgraded Thermic Dissipation Amplifier I

Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
Sisters Expanded Probe Launcher, Core Scanner Probe I
Covert Cynosural Field Generator I /OFFLINE

Small Gravity Capacitor Upgrade I
Small Gravity Capacitor Upgrade I
Scorth Aumer
Nova Wolves
#8 - 2013-10-03 16:04:50 UTC
That would be perfect ^^ i just want to make a out of corp alt for scouting dosent need guns or anything just needs to be quick and hard to spot.
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#9 - 2013-10-03 17:43:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Tau Cabalander
Seems like Interceptors will be added to the list for the Rubicon expansion Nov 19. Extremely fast, plus bubble immune.

That's only one additional skill to train from Covert Ops.
Mocam
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2013-10-05 00:25:43 UTC
Abdiel Kavash wrote:
In order of skill training required:

Shuttle < TI frigate with a MWD < covops frigate < interdiction nullified TIII cruiser


T3 for point scout? ... Ok maybe I'm just a cheap bugger but a T3 to run camps first?

Cov Ops or interceptor as the capstone. (rubicon won't change an inty being good for this - it just makes it better).
Zappity
New Eden Tank Testing Services
#11 - 2013-10-09 07:58:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Zappity
Covops/inty or an alpha grade clone alt if you stay local to your base for when he's podded.

Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec and nullsec.
Andrew Indy
Cleaning Crew
#12 - 2013-10-10 02:01:53 UTC
Also try and stay away from Bling like that Sister probe launcher. Turns a 30Mil KM into a 70-80Mil one and it only adds a small amount of extra strength . With the new scanning upgrades you can just stick a few of those on and be a great scanner with very few skills.

This is what I use to scan and scout, Its cheapish and hard to catch while scanning like a boss. With lvl3-4 skills you can reliably do a double shrink on every scan and with Max and T2 fit I would hazard a guess that you could do a triple shrink.

[Helios, Scanning]
'Repose' Core Compensation
'Repose' Core Compensation
Damage Control II

Scan Pinpointing Array I
Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I
Scan Pinpointing Array I
Scan Rangefinding Array I
Scan Rangefinding Array I

Core Probe Launcher I, Core Scanner Probe I
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II

Small Polycarbon Engine Housing I
Small Gravity Capacitor Upgrade I

Hobgoblin II x1


I have also been known to put Nanos and MWD on a Noob ship to scout (like 50k cost) and it scouts pretty well. Even went through Rancer a few times and lived to tell the tail (bounced off planets ect to avoid smarties).