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[MERC] Forsaken Asylum - Mercenary Alliance for Hire!
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Sykaotic
Doomheim
#41 - 2013-09-27 09:09:32 UTC
If I need a Merc in the future these guys are #1 on my list - Hell, there is not even a 2 or 3.



Thank you for your recent help,

Sy
AndromacheDarkstar
Integrated Insterstellar Holdings
#42 - 2013-09-27 11:41:39 UTC
Thanks for the recommendations guys
Yendaj
THE FINAL STAND
The Final Stand.
#43 - 2013-09-28 00:15:30 UTC


:) Finally!!!

<3 Star & Scandor
Starrakatt
Empire Assault Corp
Dead Terrorists
#44 - 2013-09-28 02:13:57 UTC
Yendaj wrote:


:) Finally!!!

<3 Star & Scandor

Together, he and I, we form chocolate sandwiches.

Sometimes, we even mash up some WT corpse meat to spread on, for variety.

We just LOVE IT.Big smile

Join Celtic Anarchy!

Sneaky bastard.
Ethan Argoin
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#45 - 2013-09-29 09:18:13 UTC
Bump!! Twisted
Ethan Argoin
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#46 - 2013-10-01 17:29:45 UTC
Bump!
Vixanda Alzae
Hi-Sec Heroes
#47 - 2013-10-02 13:57:34 UTC
How did these guys get Break-A-Wish Foundation to endorse them?

I like the story about how they came to Break-A-Wish Foundation's home system to fight them, even though they were out-classed and could have escaped - but they kept fighting. Awesome tale! It's probably not true, however, because there are no losses associated with such an action. Forsaken Asylum didn't lose anything there, EVER, and, while Break-A-Wish guys do occasionally lose ships in their home system - they didn't take any losses there against Forsaken Asylum. Of course, they might have had an agreement to fight only to hull, I guess, but that kind of ruins the entire thing . It isn't gutsy to throw ammo at someone who isn't going to take down your ship.

But even if they did that - take on a bigger, badder fleet and decline opportunities to escape with light losses - does that say anything good about them? Seems to me, that's a really stupid thing to do.

Forsaken Asylum's killboard tells a different story. They're pipe campers and trade hub campers - just like the Whores in Space they used to be. Hatakani, Sivala, Uedama, Jita, Perimeter, Amarr, Dodixie - some kills up in the Minmatar pipe. They sit on a gate and just wait for one of their war targets to come through in something big enough to catch -- I've seen Sovereign Infinity slide through in frigates more than once. Another of their targets uses shuttles to travel the pipe - so far they haven't had any losses to these guys - even though they are mining and missioning in their own system every day.

The only thing these guys have going for them is numbers - they can field a pretty nice fleet when they want. But that fleet sat on the Dodixie undock for half an hour while their targets sat in station and laughed at them in local. 21 ships against 6 targets and they seemed to expect their targets to fight. Sorry guys, but that isn't the way to get fights - go back to camping the gates and hoping one of yo
Vixanda Alzae
Hi-Sec Heroes
#48 - 2013-10-02 13:59:54 UTC
one of your targets wants to travel today.

(don't know why that got cut off!)
Ethan Argoin
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#49 - 2013-10-02 15:50:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Ethan Argoin
Thank you for your observations Vixanda Alzae - however, I must point our that you are indeed wrong and have not fully researched before trolling (I mean posting) Shocked

The fight referenced to by Break-A-Wish and Pendulum of Doom was one that happened in the transition between Wh0res in Space and Forsaken Asylum.

Anyone who understands Eve's mechanics will know that when a corporation leaves an alliance, it takes its wars with it.

You can see Red Dawn Mercenaries portion of this fight here: http://reddawn.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=19519796

Templar and Hunter Killers also took part in this engagement, I will let you take the time to find the kills on their respective killboards.

Please be more sensible with your information in future before trolling, otherwise you could look quite the pillock!

I would also like to point out that yes, quite a few of our kills are on trade routes (where else would you expect to find the most war targets ) - However, as most of our contractors will tell you, when the need arises we do indeed roam.

We also tend to have AT LEAST one alliance roam a day. Perhaps you cant see those kills in the forest of kills we have on our killboard.

Also, we dont camp trade hub stations, we may have gone through them and killed on the fly, but you will hardly every see a Forsaken fleet on a trade hub undock, unless the contractor has specifically stated. I am happy to back this claim as one of our alliance rules is to NOT camp trade hub undocks :)

Also, thanks for the free bump mate!

Ethan
Eva Alleile
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#50 - 2013-10-02 18:24:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Eva Alleile
Vixanda Alzae wrote:
How did these guys get Break-A-Wish Foundation to endorse them?

I like the story about how they came to Break-A-Wish Foundation's home system to fight them, even though they were out-classed and could have escaped - but they kept fighting. Awesome tale! It's probably not true, however, because there are no losses associated with such an action. Forsaken Asylum didn't lose anything there, EVER, and, while Break-A-Wish guys do occasionally lose ships in their home system - they didn't take any losses there against Forsaken Asylum. Of course, they might have had an agreement to fight only to hull, I guess, but that kind of ruins the entire thing . It isn't gutsy to throw ammo at someone who isn't going to take down your ship.

But even if they did that - take on a bigger, badder fleet and decline opportunities to escape with light losses - does that say anything good about them? Seems to me, that's a really stupid thing to do.

Forsaken Asylum's killboard tells a different story. They're pipe campers and trade hub campers - just like the Whores in Space they used to be. Hatakani, Sivala, Uedama, Jita, Perimeter, Amarr, Dodixie - some kills up in the Minmatar pipe. They sit on a gate and just wait for one of their war targets to come through in something big enough to catch -- I've seen Sovereign Infinity slide through in frigates more than once. Another of their targets uses shuttles to travel the pipe - so far they haven't had any losses to these guys - even though they are mining and missioning in their own system every day.

The only thing these guys have going for them is numbers - they can field a pretty nice fleet when they want. But that fleet sat on the Dodixie undock for half an hour while their targets sat in station and laughed at them in local. 21 ships against 6 targets and they seemed to expect their targets to fight. Sorry guys, but that isn't the way to get fights - go back to camping the gates and hoping one of yo



Funny since we keep accepting contracts against merc corps and assisting in wars hoping for a fight , We actually had a pritty fun fight against Quebec United Legions and lost a couple of ships to them , props for bringing a fight lads.

We organise plenty of roams all around highsec every day... the fact most of out targets are caught in pipes is just a sign of the stupidy of the war targets to be quite honest.

As for the so called "Mercanary" alliance Soverign Infinity ever since we decced these guys they dont ever undock in anything worth killing , Frigs with Stabs and shuttles are hardly catchable in highsec unless they mess up....

We are not Whores in Space and we actively chase and catch war targets who think that we are on a regular basis , We got backing from BAW because we are not station camping indy killers .... the fact most contracts are against industrial corps is because industry corps generally have problems with other industry corps... for non pvpers they are a vicious lot.
Nikita Tsukino
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#51 - 2013-10-02 19:47:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Nikita Tsukino
I saw these guys fly through Tsuguwa earlier in a 30 man T3 fleet with some other various things. Nearly poop'd myself

Nice fleet though boyz Evil

Also hired them over the last week and was more than impressed with the service they offered and the result

They came to assistance when asked

+1 for a great merc alliance with leadership that has time to talk and listen to its clients
AndromacheDarkstar
Integrated Insterstellar Holdings
#52 - 2013-10-02 23:12:03 UTC
Nikita Tsukino wrote:
I saw these guys fly through Tsuguwa earlier in a 30 man T3 fleet with some other various things. Nearly poop'd myself

Nice fleet though boyz Evil

Also hired them over the last week and was more than impressed with the service they offered and the result

They came to assistance when asked

+1 for a great merc alliance with leadership that has time to talk and listen to its clients


Thankyou for the endorsement
Vixanda Alzae
Hi-Sec Heroes
#53 - 2013-10-03 02:46:10 UTC
Oh, yes, troll some more!!

Okay, first I didn't look at Red Dawn Mercenaries board for the losses against Break-A-Wish because Break-A-Wish wasn't endorsing Red Dawn Mercenaries (they were endorsing the entirety of the alliance - which you probably couldn't actually join until the wars where Whores was the aggressor ended - so my bad there.)

But as for the fight against Break-A-Wish, my point still stands. Going up against a superior fleet is a pretty stupid thing to do - especially if you're trying to build up a mercenary rep. So you lost 3 battlecruisers for no good reason except that you were spoiling for a fight.

The station camp I watched in Dodixie was another sign of Whore behavior, though, bringing an immense fleet and complaining that your targets aren't fighting. I guess, they aren't of the same meld as someone who happily takes 3 losses just so they can say they attacked Break-A-Wish. Why didn't you guys just show up in 6 ships for Mastercard (there were 6 of them in system)? Without a fleet on any of the gates? Can't do the fair fight thing, I guess. Or, hey, you went up against a superior fleet against Break-A-Wish - why not show up in even lower numbers than your opponent?

Oh, and if Sovereign Infinity is such a poor target, why do you keep spending money on keeping them decced? From what I understand from reading their forum thread, they don't care about killing you since you decced them (and are therefore not one of their real targets.) They're still getting kills on both sides of your pipe camp so I don't think you're even affecting their ability to carry out their contracts. And the only kills you're getting against them are from their Training corp and only a single ship/pod to show for at least 2 weeks of war. I guess you must have a contract against them, because otherwise it's showing a lack of good isk management.
Eva Alleile
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#54 - 2013-10-03 05:55:05 UTC
Vixanda Alzae wrote:
Oh, yes, troll some more!!

Okay, first I didn't look at Red Dawn Mercenaries board for the losses against Break-A-Wish because Break-A-Wish wasn't endorsing Red Dawn Mercenaries (they were endorsing the entirety of the alliance - which you probably couldn't actually join until the wars where Whores was the aggressor ended - so my bad there.)

But as for the fight against Break-A-Wish, my point still stands. Going up against a superior fleet is a pretty stupid thing to do - especially if you're trying to build up a mercenary rep. So you lost 3 battlecruisers for no good reason except that you were spoiling for a fight.

The station camp I watched in Dodixie was another sign of ***** behavior, though, bringing an immense fleet and complaining that your targets aren't fighting. I guess, they aren't of the same meld as someone who happily takes 3 losses just so they can say they attacked Break-A-Wish. Why didn't you guys just show up in 6 ships for Mastercard (there were 6 of them in system)? Without a fleet on any of the gates? Can't do the fair fight thing, I guess. Or, hey, you went up against a superior fleet against Break-A-Wish - why not show up in even lower numbers than your opponent?

Oh, and if Sovereign Infinity is such a poor target, why do you keep spending money on keeping them decced? From what I understand from reading their forum thread, they don't care about killing you since you decced them (and are therefore not one of their real targets.) They're still getting kills on both sides of your pipe camp so I don't think you're even affecting their ability to carry out their contracts. And the only kills you're getting against them are from their Training corp and only a single ship/pod to show for at least 2 weeks of war. I guess you must have a contract against them, because otherwise it's showing a lack of good isk management.

Sovereign infinity are under perma Dec at request of a client , sure they get kills but a hell of a lot less than if they where not decced , as for engaging break a wish in a superior fleet do you think just because the odds are against you that you should tuck tail and run every time? Or do you fight and do the best you can?
Ethan Argoin
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#55 - 2013-10-03 06:01:06 UTC
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Sovereign infinity are under perma Dec at request of a client , sure they get kills but a hell of a lot less than if they where not decced , as for engaging break a wish in a superior fleet do you think just because the odds are against you that you should tuck tail and run every time? Or do you fight and do the best you can?


This...

You know your actually kinda giving us a good rep here man, even though I am sure your intention was otherwise.

Your posts only go to prove we will happily stand and fight a fleet larger than our own and take losses, yawn oh noes we lost some internet pixels.

Thanks for the endorsement I guess. Now post on your main so we can have some real fun Roll
VegasMirage
Blank-Space
Northern Coalition.
#56 - 2013-10-03 06:17:34 UTC  |  Edited by: VegasMirage
If you want tears, no need to war dec these guys just send emails lololol... enjoy

http://pastebin.com/pG5weXsz

no more games... it's real this time!!!
Jove Death
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#57 - 2013-10-03 06:24:28 UTC
Vixanda Alzae wrote:
Oh, yes, troll some more!!

Okay, first I didn't look at Red Dawn Mercenaries board for the losses against Break-A-Wish because Break-A-Wish wasn't endorsing Red Dawn Mercenaries (they were endorsing the entirety of the alliance - which you probably couldn't actually join until the wars where Whores was the aggressor ended - so my bad there.)

But as for the fight against Break-A-Wish, my point still stands. Going up against a superior fleet is a pretty stupid thing to do - especially if you're trying to build up a mercenary rep. So you lost 3 battlecruisers for no good reason except that you were spoiling for a fight.

The station camp I watched in Dodixie was another sign of ***** behavior, though, bringing an immense fleet and complaining that your targets aren't fighting. I guess, they aren't of the same meld as someone who happily takes 3 losses just so they can say they attacked Break-A-Wish. Why didn't you guys just show up in 6 ships for Mastercard (there were 6 of them in system)? Without a fleet on any of the gates? Can't do the fair fight thing, I guess. Or, hey, you went up against a superior fleet against Break-A-Wish - why not show up in even lower numbers than your opponent?

Oh, and if Sovereign Infinity is such a poor target, why do you keep spending money on keeping them decced? From what I understand from reading their forum thread, they don't care about killing you since you decced them (and are therefore not one of their real targets.) They're still getting kills on both sides of your pipe camp so I don't think you're even affecting their ability to carry out their contracts. And the only kills you're getting against them are from their Training corp and only a single ship/pod to show for at least 2 weeks of war. I guess you must have a contract against them, because otherwise it's showing a lack of good isk management.




From an outside point of view.....

Red Dawn in whores in space had grown annoyed to the fact they were constantly classed as station huggers and didnt bring the fight.

Break a wish endorsed them because leaving Whores gave them a new incentive, "to hunt" the best way they could at the time. They did not need to man up or anything. They just went there to show they were more than station huggers and tbh they prob new they were going to die but they went in trying and took a fight to there home system. Its not a stupid thing to do its actually quite clever.

TBH thats balzy and proved to chars in eve they were not what everyone thought they were.

As for Dodixie Mastercard have srsly tanked ships and you do actually need a fleet that big to crack some of there tanks.





Quoting "you will die" in EvE is fail Chars dont die in EvE. Unless you have a heart attack eek.
AndromacheDarkstar
Integrated Insterstellar Holdings
#58 - 2013-10-03 11:18:13 UTC
Vixanda Alzae wrote:
Oh, yes, troll some more!!

Okay, first I didn't look at Red Dawn Mercenaries board for the losses against Break-A-Wish because Break-A-Wish wasn't endorsing Red Dawn Mercenaries (they were endorsing the entirety of the alliance - which you probably couldn't actually join until the wars where Whores was the aggressor ended - so my bad there.)

But as for the fight against Break-A-Wish, my point still stands. Going up against a superior fleet is a pretty stupid thing to do - especially if you're trying to build up a mercenary rep. So you lost 3 battlecruisers for no good reason except that you were spoiling for a fight.

The station camp I watched in Dodixie was another sign of ***** behavior, though, bringing an immense fleet and complaining that your targets aren't fighting. I guess, they aren't of the same meld as someone who happily takes 3 losses just so they can say they attacked Break-A-Wish. Why didn't you guys just show up in 6 ships for Mastercard (there were 6 of them in system)? Without a fleet on any of the gates? Can't do the fair fight thing, I guess. Or, hey, you went up against a superior fleet against Break-A-Wish - why not show up in even lower numbers than your opponent?

Oh, and if Sovereign Infinity is such a poor target, why do you keep spending money on keeping them decced? From what I understand from reading their forum thread, they don't care about killing you since you decced them (and are therefore not one of their real targets.) They're still getting kills on both sides of your pipe camp so I don't think you're even affecting their ability to carry out their contracts. And the only kills you're getting against them are from their Training corp and only a single ship/pod to show for at least 2 weeks of war. I guess you must have a contract against them, because otherwise it's showing a lack of good isk management.


So i was going to stay out of this but i do feel the need to chip in. Im guessing you are either a soveriegn alt or a mastercard alt. The irony of accusing people of being station huggers whilst having any relationship with either of those groups blows my mind.

Now onto the accusations of blobbing, we happen to have a healthy and active allaince with a reasonable amount of people, im not one for telling people that they have to stay out of a fight so everyone can claim E-Honour. We took what we had online to fight some guys who dont leave the dod undock ring and unsurprisingly they docked all the pretty faction battleships and proceeded to moan in local. Since then we havent bothered with them and have left them to their own devices.

As for our friends over in Sovereign Infinity, thats now a perma dec. The cost is next to nothing and i think due to time zones we barely see them (not that they ever really leave their home system) They are as far as i can tell prety useless and i look forward to them folding in the near future.

Now lets quickly revisit the break a wish situation, whilst in whores we were encouraged not to fight them, to avoid them if we could. That was not our style as a corp so we decided to go our seperate way and some of the other corps felt the same. After leaving whore the dec was still ative so we all decided one night we wanted a fight and they would probably give it to us. We lost that fight but we learnt allot from it and ultimately i think it was a good experiance for all of us. The point we had to prove is that we will take fights, we will move through space and we wil not just hug stations. We do spend allot of time in trade routes because shockingly enough thats where a large amount of targets move through. If you look however you will see kills all over. You will see our fleets moving throughout hi sec actively chasing targets every night.

I will happily back up everything here with evidence. Here is a link to our killboards,

http://kraze.eve-kill.net/

Now as much as i appreciate the free bumps please dont bother coming back unlesss you actually have a genuine complaint you can back up, and when you do please make sure you post with you main.
Vixanda Alzae
Hi-Sec Heroes
#59 - 2013-10-03 13:30:42 UTC
Jove Death said
Quote:
As for Dodixie Mastercard have srsly tanked ships and you do actually need a fleet that big to crack some of there (sic) tanks


This is precious. You come with 21 ships because Mastercard have srsly tanked ships and you need a fleet that big to crack them? No you don't - you only need to keep them in the fight long enough to crack their tank. And if you have 21 ships, you aren't going to see a chance of that fight.

You can't really camp the Dodixie gate in Botane and expect no one to notice. I saw at least 2 reports of your fleet sitting there before you came in. Surely, you don't think that you could bait Mastercard into firing on you so you could warp in your massive fleet and kill them in the 1 minute to de-aggress and dock. They know the game and they knew where your fleet was waiting.

It is clear that you don't really want fights - at least not with Mastercard - you want kills. Sad that Mastercard doesn't rate the same as Break-A-Wish and that you wouldn't bring something they would actually fight. Tell me, have you even had a real 'fight' since the Break-A-Wish thing, or have you merely blobbed everyone? Active memberships don't need to go out in 1 fleet (or hang around the gates in the pipe) they could go on roams of half a dozen each - cover more of EVE with your presence that way too. And you'd get more fights (though probably also more losses and fewer kills - but isn't it the fight you want - isn't that why you left the Whores In Space?)

By the way, Break-A-Wish doesn't undock to fights they can't win for the most part. That's how they maintain a 70:1 success ratio on Battleclinic. So they knew they could take you guys down without losses before they engaged.

And this IS my main, though I do appreciate the compliment that I might be a Mastercard or Sovereign alt because I mention them. But I could also be on here talking about The Marmite Collective, The Devil's Warrior Alliance (who does get kills on Break-A-Wish) , Pandemic Legion, General Tso's Alliance or any of a dozen others with whom I have relationships. Your obsession with Sovereign Infinity is why I bring them into it and the Dodixie thing because I was there watching it all.
Jove Death
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#60 - 2013-10-03 14:22:08 UTC
Vixanda Alzae wrote:
Jove Death said
Quote:
As for Dodixie Mastercard have srsly tanked ships and you do actually need a fleet that big to crack some of there (sic) tanks


This is precious. You come with 21 ships because Mastercard have srsly tanked ships and you need a fleet that big to crack them? No you don't - you only need to keep them in the fight long enough to crack their tank. And if you have 21 ships, you aren't going to see a chance of that fight.





OK you totally lost me there when did I come with a 21 ship fleet?. the most ive travelled in to dod was about 10.

Anyway not going to continue to derail this thread.

Have fun out there Big smile

Quoting "you will die" in EvE is fail Chars dont die in EvE. Unless you have a heart attack eek.