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Tom Clancy dead at 66

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Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
#1 - 2013-10-02 16:00:05 UTC
MSN Article

The man behind so many Espionage and military bestsellers died yesterday at a Baltimore hospital. However I don't see anything on how he died so /tinfoil hat.

Never been much of a reader but when I do it's usually either him or Stephen King.

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Graygor
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2013-10-02 16:02:16 UTC
A sad day for military fiction.

Im too to fully understand the cold war dynamics but my father loved and i guess still loves his books.

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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#3 - 2013-10-02 16:40:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Krixtal Icefluxor
I've never read a word by him, but he sure had an appreciation for SF authors. He is in 'high praise blurbs' on a lot of really great ones that I like. ed: even more obscure ones like John Varley.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882

Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#4 - 2013-10-02 17:00:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Khergit Deserters
He did pretty well, considering he started writing in middle age while working as an insurance agent. I believe his first book was The Hunt for Red October, and that one was directly based on the wargame Harpoon. He and his wargaming buddies simmed a Soviet sub defecting to the U.S. and being hunted by both sides. Tom wrote the action up as a novel, and the next thing you know he's a bestselling author.

Hmm, opinionated right wing guy, critic of the CIA, military tech expert, no cause of death listed.... Breaking out the tinfoil too.
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#5 - 2013-10-02 17:15:32 UTC
You can have mine, Khergit.

I'm producing them now until details are released.

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Baby ChuChu
Ice Cream Asylum
#6 - 2013-10-02 17:16:35 UTC
Khergit Deserters wrote:


Hmm, opinionated right wing guy, critic of the CIA, military tech expert, no cause of death listed.... Breaking out the tinfoil too.


And it just so happened on the day the government shutdown. Make me one of those hats.
Random McNally
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#7 - 2013-10-02 17:18:48 UTC
Baby ChuChu wrote:
Khergit Deserters wrote:


Hmm, opinionated right wing guy, critic of the CIA, military tech expert, no cause of death listed.... Breaking out the tinfoil too.


And it just so happened on the day the government shutdown. Make me one of those hats.

With or without duct tape accessories?

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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#8 - 2013-10-02 17:21:37 UTC
So it turns out he was actually a dummy front and pseudonym for Judy Blume, you betcha. Lol

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Eli Green
The Arrow Project
#9 - 2013-10-02 17:28:22 UTC
Baby ChuChu wrote:
Khergit Deserters wrote:


Hmm, opinionated right wing guy, critic of the CIA, military tech expert, no cause of death listed.... Breaking out the tinfoil too.


And it just so happened on the day the government shutdown. Make me one of those hats.


I'll take 20.

wumbo

Commissar Kate
NulzSec
#10 - 2013-10-02 17:39:53 UTC
Khergit Deserters wrote:
He did pretty well, considering he started writing in middle age while working as an insurance agent. I believe his first book was The Hunt for Red October, and that one was directly based on the wargame Harpoon. He and his wargaming buddies simmed a Soviet sub defecting to the U.S. and being hunted by both sides. Tom wrote the action up as a novel, and the next thing you know he's a bestselling author.

Hmm, opinionated right wing guy, critic of the CIA, military tech expert, no cause of death listed.... Breaking out the tinfoil too.



Oh, cool. I did not know that about him.

I used to play Harpoon back in the day too. It was an amazing wargame.
Plastic Psycho
Necro-Economics
#11 - 2013-10-02 17:57:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Plastic Psycho
Khergit Deserters wrote:
He did pretty well, considering he started writing in middle age while working as an insurance agent. I believe his first book was The Hunt for Red October, and that one was directly based on the wargame Harpoon. He and his wargaming buddies simmed a Soviet sub defecting to the U.S. and being hunted by both sides. Tom wrote the action up as a novel, and the next thing you know he's a bestselling author.

Hmm, opinionated right wing guy, critic of the CIA, military tech expert, no cause of death listed.... Breaking out the tinfoil too.

He got some inside help on the Red October book. And a LOT of inside help on the movie. If you look at the right time, you can get ten seconds of the back of my head (two of my shipmates have speaking roles, even). Lol

With a bit of training, he'd have made a pretty decent intelligence analyst. His ability to write people wasn't up to his affinity for technology, though - Indeed, Jack Ryan became quite the "Harvey Stu" character before I became disenchanted with Clancy's writing. In the end, he ended up alienating a lot of the insiders that used to willingly help him.

OTOH, he completely revitalized the military fiction market, and was a rather prolific writer. Dunno why he's passed at such a young age, but he absolutely left an indelible mark on the literarty world.

Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
...even more obscure ones like John Varley.

HERESY!

John Varley is NOT obscure!
Evil
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#12 - 2013-10-02 18:04:50 UTC
""I'll never decide for commercial reasons to put something in that endangers our national security. You just can't do that," he said in a 2003 CNN interview. "There was one thing, I discussed with a friend of mine in the Royal Navy. I told him a story I knew, and he said, 'Well, Tom, you may never repeat that, as long as you live.' And I haven't.""

Shocked


CNN story

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Micheal Dietrich
Kings Gambit Black
#13 - 2013-10-02 18:16:07 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
""I'll never decide for commercial reasons to put something in that endangers our national security. You just can't do that," he said in a 2003 CNN interview. "There was one thing, I discussed with a friend of mine in the Royal Navy. I told him a story I knew, and he said, 'Well, Tom, you may never repeat that, as long as you live.' And I haven't.""

Shocked


CNN story



Gonna need a tinfoil chest piece to go with this hat.

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Plastic Psycho
Necro-Economics
#14 - 2013-10-02 18:23:44 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
""I'll never decide for commercial reasons to put something in that endangers our national security. You just can't do that," he said in a 2003 CNN interview. "There was one thing, I discussed with a friend of mine in the Royal Navy. I told him a story I knew, and he said, 'Well, Tom, you may never repeat that, as long as you live.' And I haven't.""

Shocked


CNN story

Yeah, he was a bit of a braggart - which is one of the ways he alienated folks.
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#15 - 2013-10-02 19:33:48 UTC
im sad to hear that.


but im also glad because now my US naval institute first edition Hunt For Red October will be worth lots more.


Im very conflicted.

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?

Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#16 - 2013-10-02 19:51:55 UTC
Plastic Psycho wrote:


Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
...even more obscure ones like John Varley.

HERESY!

John Varley is NOT obscure!
Evil


I know I know. But nobody outside of SF fandom knows who he is. He ain't exactly Ray Bradbury, or OS Card Big smile

I finally met him in 2008, 30 years after reading "Titan". That was a long wait.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882

Berendas
EVE University
Ivy League
#17 - 2013-10-02 20:10:10 UTC
HBO should make a series out of Red Storm Rising. I can't claim to have read even half of Clancy's work, but of what I have read, that one is my favorite by far.


But then again, I grew up playing Red Alert...
Plastic Psycho
Necro-Economics
#18 - 2013-10-02 20:31:37 UTC
Berendas wrote:
HBO should make a series out of Red Storm Rising. I can't claim to have read even half of Clancy's work, but of what I have read, that one is my favorite by far.


Shocked
That'd be a bloody expensive movie or mini-series.
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#19 - 2013-10-02 20:56:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Khergit Deserters
OT, but here's another civilian outsider in the military complex story. Jeff "Skunk" Baxter, guitarist for Steely Dan and the Doobie Brothers, is now a defense and counterterrorism contractor. Initially he was interested in how early military IT systems could be adapted for music recording/production. He got really interested in military technology, and eventually wrote a paper proposing that the Aegis anti-aircraft system could be used for anti-missile defense on ships. The Navy ended up doing it. Now he's a full-time consultant to the Pentagon and private weapons contractors. They show him new military tech developments, and he thinks of ways they could be used for other applications. Or what a terrorist would do to counter them.

The guy has a lot of classified security clearances. Apparently the Pentagon is willing to overlook a few "doobies" in somebody's past. Ugh Sorry
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voetius
Grundrisse
#20 - 2013-10-02 21:06:53 UTC

Hunt for Red October was ok at the time but I much preferred Red Storm Rising, that was a classic Cold War / WW III novel and I think was based on Harpoon as well.
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