EVE General Discussion

Would this be counterbalanced by letting the criminal element bribe CONCORD to *not* respond?

I mean, as amusing as the idea of filling my cargohold with doughnuts and coffee to keep the local law enforcement hanging out with me in my mining belt is... and I am amused... this seems a bit unbalanced if it's just allowing folks to essentially buy immunity. It kind of crosses the line from "ISK sink" to "P2W".

Why not hire player groups to protect you?

Seriously, this is an mmo. One about conflicting interests. Without any safety zones. And you are asking for a paid NPC intervention to help you with your tasks?

The Concord you are paying for will not be the one, that is coming when a gank happens. It cannot be. What you will get is a nerfed version. One that can be overcome by the gankers in some way. Anything else would be completely unbalanced.

Edit: I shouldn't post early in the morning :/

I may be an industrialist, but after playing as long as I have you inevitably get to the "death to high sec mentality" and just kinda laugh when people want to not be ganked in high sec because they think high sec is supposed to be safe. I suppose you want constructive criticism though, so I guess I will pass this little trick on from back in my carebear days . . .

Pick a belt (or ice anom) you want to mine at and put a single barge there. Then get an alt, or person with a high sec status that doesn't mind waiting 15 mins, and have said alt, or person, get in a noobship and fire a volley at the barge. Concord will show up and do their thing and not leave for a good while. Then either continue on mining solo or bring in the rest of your barges if you happen to be doing an op.

For the duration of your mining you have concord at the belt and ready to fire upon any person with a bad sec status or fire on anyone that shoots you. Bear in mid that even this isn't a 100% foolproof idea because you can still be taken out by enough gankers because (as far as I know) concord only focuses on one target at a time, so 3-4 catalysts can still take out a barge even though concord is in the belt already.

Lol...who ever said high sec was safe? It's the most dangerous space in EVE.

Reducing the spawn time is probably more interesting...and reversing the idea for the ganker raises more eyebrows.

CONCORD is not there to bring you safety, only consequences of doing 'nasty' things in high sec. If you want safety, go to a dead end low/null system, put scouts/bubbles/defence force in the system leading to it and mine there.
As soon as bad people show up, you warp to your POS and put away your mining ships, grab your pew pew ship and send them home packing. THAT is how you properly defend against gankers.

In the past, our corp has done this in high sec as well, when we were wardecced and had a mining op scheduled, we'd have eyes in the systems that lead to the place where our mining fleet was operating, at some point a scout alt from the enemy corp showed up and went into our mining system, saw us mining, and ofc alerted his buddies before leaving again.
We continued mining, knowing they were probably on their way, and when they showed up 2 jumps out, we docked up, grabbed our guns and set up a camp on the only gate in system.
Without further scouting they jumped into the system where we were mining, and were very surprised to find not 20 innocent miners, but instead a 20 man cruiser/frigate gang on the gate waiting for them to show.
Meanwhile, our 'mission' fleet who had been doing missions 4 jumps out with a pvp fleet closed the net around them on the other side so the ones that made it back to the gate and jumped found them waiting for them on the other side.

having an npc mechanic for something players should be doing for themselves? oh, hell no. undock a blackbird, stay at the keyboard and buy a mining permit.

I admit I may not be the best one to respond, but my understanding, most highsec corps who attack miners typically wardec them for which Concord probably wont get involved anyways, right? Or, they are lowsec Corps who get bored and plan HighSec ops, which case Concord wont even go down there, so it would do not good to hire them.

Then again, most highsec miners hire mercenary corps to wardec the lowsec Pirate groups who come up to target them, even though the merc corps are too chicken to go down to lowsec.

Yet, Aside from all of this, if you attack someone in HighSec, Concord will respond, so in a way, they sort of already protect you…. For free, right?

I think I am confusing myself, I will leave now.

LOL...so, what about allowing the gankers the reduce the spawn time for ganking in 1.0 system? Imagine how much fun would be had lmao.

Risk vs Benefit...what EVE is all about...and spreadsheets.

Generally it's "Hi [group of players], I/we will pay you XXX million ISK per [op|hour|week|month] to sit and watch over our miners. "

Optional addition "We will also provide you with the (fitted) T1 ships of your choice, ammo, modules, etc. that you require for this post. Other special-order equipment [can|will] be provided at [price]"

Where [price] would be something like "5% below local market" or "Build Cost" or a fixed price for ship class (e.g. frigates = 250k, dessies = 1m, cruisers = 5m, etc" [I'm just making up numbers here] )

EVE is fun because of player interaction. Hire some peeps to protect your ships. Job done.