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No missile love, naga is now a turd bucket.
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myFORUMalt alts
Doomheim
#1 - 2011-11-16 01:43:01 UTC
So, I was really excited about the new winter release, particularly for the naga, which was gunna be my new battleship killing pve ship. And then CCP through its infinite wisdom has killed my happiness and taken away the launcher slots from the naga. So i ask, wheres the missile love. What new battlecruiser can use missiles. The other ships can use hybrids, projectile, and lasers, but no missiles.

stupid

Yes, I complain about things I don't like.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#2 - 2011-11-16 01:49:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
myFORUMalt alts wrote:
which was gunna be my new battleship killing pve ship.
No. No it was not.
Might I suggest a Raven? It will do that job a whole lot better than the Naga ever would.
Or a Tengu?

Also, the Caldari have enough missile ships as it is — they can use a new one that makes use of their secondary weapon system.
Pattern Clarc
Citeregis
#3 - 2011-11-16 01:51:38 UTC
I'm happy caldari actually have a ship demonstrating what Hybrids could be. I hope they implement similar changes to the other rail boats tbh, they really need the damage...

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Kent Reeves
#4 - 2011-11-16 01:51:52 UTC
Train hybrids. No, seriously.
ACE McFACE
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2011-11-16 01:52:25 UTC
Even if they kept the missile hardpoints you would have lost it to NPCs, none of the t3 BCs are for PvE, unless maybe you ultra drake tank it and then it wouldnt do much damage

Now, more than ever, we need a dislike button.
myFORUMalt alts
Doomheim
#6 - 2011-11-16 01:52:44 UTC
Tippia wrote:
myFORUMalt alts wrote:
which was gunna be my new battleship killing pve ship.
No. No it was not.
Might I suggest a Raven? It will do that job a whole lot better than the Naga ever would.
Or a Tengu?

Also, the Caldari have enough missile ships as it is — they can use a new one that makes use of their secondary weapon system.




I fly a tengu now, but its a support vessel for the thanny. I wanted that 1000DPS to slice through rogue drone battleships more effectively. Especially since it could be 1000 dps of any damage type. So i could use the appropriate EM torps instead of my kinetic heavy missiles.

stoopid

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myFORUMalt alts
Doomheim
#7 - 2011-11-16 01:53:21 UTC
ACE McFACE wrote:
Even if they kept the missile hardpoints you would have lost it to NPCs, none of the t3 BCs are for PvE, unless maybe you ultra drake tank it and then it wouldnt do much damage


capital shield emission from thanny

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myFORUMalt alts
Doomheim
#8 - 2011-11-16 01:54:37 UTC
Kent Reeves wrote:
Train hybrids. No, seriously.



Why train hybrids when i could train projectile. Hybrids suck until proven otherwise

Yes, I complain about things I don't like.
Pattern Clarc
Citeregis
#9 - 2011-11-16 01:54:40 UTC
Also, IBTL.

Ex CSM member & Designer of the Tornado. Gallente - Pilot satisfaction
Nephilius
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#10 - 2011-11-16 01:56:16 UTC
If life gives you turd buckets, load them in your blasters and make a splash. P
"If."
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#11 - 2011-11-16 01:56:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
myFORUMalt alts wrote:
I fly a tengu now, but its a support vessel for the thanny.
…and a Tengu or Raven will serve that purpose better than the torp Naga would. In fact, the rail Naga will serve that purpose better than the torp Naga would (but like all the tier-3s, it's far too squishy and too reliant on support ships to make a good PvE boat).
Shivus Tao
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2011-11-16 02:05:27 UTC
What's this? You're mad they changed the naga so it can no longer fill a role it wasn't supposed to?

Shocking.

On the flip side, the talos is going to be the new ratter of choice against serpentis. Naga should be able to do exceptionally well against Guristas between its range, damage type, and low sig radius.
Ris Dnalor
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2011-11-16 02:05:59 UTC
I'd greatly prefer a torp naga... if i want to use hybrids, why not just fly the gallente ship?

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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#14 - 2011-11-16 02:08:31 UTC
Ris Dnalor wrote:
Iif i want to use hybrids, why not just fly the gallente ship?
Because you're Caldari / Shield-specced, not Gallente / Armour-specced.
Jenny Cameron
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#15 - 2011-11-16 02:11:12 UTC
Ris Dnalor wrote:
I'd greatly prefer a torp naga... if i want to use hybrids, why not just fly the gallente ship?

Very true, after all we didn't all train large hybrids. Too bad we get 2 hybrid boats and no missile ships now, it's disappointing. A lot of people can't really use any of the new tier 3 BCs now.
Ris Dnalor
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2011-11-16 02:20:00 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Ris Dnalor wrote:
Iif i want to use hybrids, why not just fly the gallente ship?
Because you're Caldari / Shield-specced, not Gallente / Armour-specced.


fair point, though I still don't understand the reasoning. Perhaps there's a very good reason that I simply don't see.

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IIIAsharakIII
The League of Extraordinary Assholes
Leviathan.
#17 - 2011-11-16 02:23:25 UTC
Since CCP added the support skills to the drone/missile category, the weapon systems have really changed. I'd say its become just as complex as training gunnery.

That being said, there's nothing wrong with asking for a missile boat.

I can understand why OP is upset and dissapointed.

BTW what in the name of god is the primary role of this new ship? This all seems like watching some kid try to build new toys with the assistance of duct tape. Really, the ideas were cool on paper, but they're sucking in the reality department.

Why not just scrap this crap and move on?
Ris Dnalor
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2011-11-16 02:28:05 UTC
IIIAsharakIII wrote:
Since CCP added the support skills to the drone/missile category, the weapon systems have really changed. I'd say its become just as complex as training gunnery.

That being said, there's nothing wrong with asking for a missile boat.

I can understand why OP is upset and dissapointed.

BTW what in the name of god is the primary role of this new ship? This all seems like watching some kid try to build new toys with the assistance of duct tape. Really, the ideas were cool on paper, but they're sucking in the reality department.

Why not just scrap this crap and move on?



big damage, weak defense is the premise. Why? Suicide pvp boost. En masse, it could be a cheaper way to bring loads of dps... I can see remote-reppers needing an increased dosage of their anti-anxiety meds though.

Works well for minmatar 1400's and perhaps amarr tachyons for sniping. Hybrids alpha will be less, putting caldari / gallente less into the suicide sniper role.


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Akirei Scytale
Okami Syndicate
#19 - 2011-11-16 02:44:39 UTC
Jenny Cameron wrote:
Ris Dnalor wrote:
I'd greatly prefer a torp naga... if i want to use hybrids, why not just fly the gallente ship?

Very true, after all we didn't all train large hybrids. Too bad we get 2 hybrid boats and no missile ships now, it's disappointing. A lot of people can't really use any of the new tier 3 BCs now.


they are PvP ships at their core. How many PvPers do you know with only missiles trained??
Adunh Slavy
#20 - 2011-11-16 03:29:26 UTC
myFORUMalt alts wrote:
... taken away the launcher slots ...



Train guns, free your self from the Caldari missle spam

Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.  - William Pitt
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