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Jade III
Sebiestor Tribe
#1 - 2013-10-01 15:12:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Jade III
Where is the best place a new pilot to null sec should move?

Would Curse be good? And should I consider joining a player-owned corp if I am moving to null sec? Last question, whats the difference in Null Sec and WH space?

These are the things I heard about Null sec:

*Players get a bunch of isk mining, or ratting
*No security status drop when engaging pilots
*Its more fun than high sec.
*Ratting gives you more security status in null sec

Worm Hole space:
*Sleepers give you alot of good money
*Somewhat safe to mine in

My adventure blog: http://lonewolfadventures.wordpress.com/
Baron' Soontir Fel
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#2 - 2013-10-01 15:47:21 UTC

I'd look to join a corp or alliance. Don't try to move into null-sec by yourself.

It's nice having friends around that can give tips, answer the questions you've posted, and help bring in all of your things from high sec.
Jade III
Sebiestor Tribe
#3 - 2013-10-01 15:51:20 UTC
Baron' Soontir Fel wrote:

I'd look to join a corp or alliance. Don't try to move into null-sec by yourself.

It's nice having friends around that can give tips, answer the questions you've posted, and help bring in all of your things from high sec.


Thank you for that. I have just posted an advertisement of what I am looking for in a Low sec or Null sec corp. Any others?

My adventure blog: http://lonewolfadventures.wordpress.com/
Katherine Raven
ALTA Industries
Intergalactic Conservation Movement
#4 - 2013-10-01 18:45:14 UTC
Jade III wrote:
Where is the best place a new pilot to null sec should move?

Would Curse be good? And should I consider joining a player-owned corp if I am moving to null sec? Last question, whats the difference in Null Sec and WH space?

These are the things I heard about Null sec:

*Players get a bunch of isk mining, or ratting
*No security status drop when engaging pilots
*Its more fun than high sec.
*Ratting gives you more security status in null sec

Worm Hole space:
*Sleepers give you alot of good money
*Somewhat safe to mine in



Two things, like that dude said, do not go by yourself.

Second, worm holes are never safe for anything. If you expect to be even 'somewhat' safe mining in a wormhole, fiery death is just a matter of time. If anything, mining in wormholes is pretty stressful, even if it is very profitable.
Jade III
Sebiestor Tribe
#5 - 2013-10-01 18:47:21 UTC
Good advice, I'll start with Null Sec and go into wormholes with the corp I am thinking about joining.

My adventure blog: http://lonewolfadventures.wordpress.com/
Cpt Smasher
Rafzakael Enterprises
#6 - 2013-10-01 19:18:35 UTC
We are recruiting. Check my sig. We live in NPC null. Join RAF-E Public in game if your interested and we can chat a bit! See if we fit or not :D

Wormholes and Null sec.

Wormhole - No Local, No stations, fairly empty, limited capitals.
Null sec - Local, unlimited capitals/Black ops teams, Empty until its not empty, More targets.

I think your making the right choice by joining a corp and day tripping into wormhole. (or maybe longer then a day trip, but its a solid plan)

These guys covered the rest.
We are recruiting! PvP in NPC 0.0, and Gallente low sec! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=281323
Iyokus Patrouette
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2013-10-01 22:37:00 UTC
Wormholes are awesome, do not let these Null sec people scare you away from them. Glory to bob!

---- Advocate for the initiation of purple coloured wormholes----

Luwc
State War Academy
Caldari State
#8 - 2013-10-02 08:32:05 UTC
Join Goons/CFC
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Win at Null Sec.

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Vyktor Abyss
Abyss Research
#9 - 2013-10-02 10:30:58 UTC
Good news is upon you OP.

With the coming of Rubicon, you will be able to move to Null solo.

Just so long as you only ever fly interceptors you will be fine! Personally I'm looking forward to more Taranis time. Blink
Speedkermit Damo
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2013-10-02 11:42:49 UTC
Jade III wrote:
Where is the best place a new pilot to null sec should move?

Would Curse be good? And should I consider joining a player-owned corp if I am moving to null sec? Last question, whats the difference in Null Sec and WH space?

These are the things I heard about Null sec:

*Players get a bunch of isk mining, or ratting
*No security status drop when engaging pilots
*Its more fun than high sec.
*Ratting gives you more security status in null sec

Worm Hole space:
*Sleepers give you alot of good money
*Somewhat safe to mine in


I recommend you apply to to CVA, or any of the other alliances in Providence. They are all very friendly to newer players, and it;s a good place to start out in Null-sec.

Protect me from knowing what I don't need to know. Protect me from even knowing that there are things to know that I don't know. Protect me from knowing that I decided not to know about the things that I decided not to know about. Amen.
Oska Rus
Free Ice Cream People
#11 - 2013-10-02 12:05:50 UTC
In wormhole you can own single system.

In nullsec you either own all the systems or is constantly jumped by supers.
Janna Sway
Ember Inc.
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
#12 - 2013-10-03 09:09:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Janna Sway
It does not matter where in EVE you live. What matters is that you are happy with your eve-family (corporation)
The Spod
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2013-10-03 09:18:26 UTC
I went into null on my week 2 of eve. Back then it was hard but I made it work by running menial tasks like hauling, moving ships for others and lighting cynos. For pvp I flew scout and tackle roles.

Nowadays you get friends for doing above and you get isk for salvaging the stuff those friends leave in anoms. A ton of isk at that.
BenDover
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#14 - 2013-10-04 04:33:28 UTC
Speedkermit Damo wrote:

I recommend you apply to to CVA, or any of the other alliances in Providence. They are all very friendly to newer players, and it;s a good place to start out in Null-sec.


This. The Provi block is swarmed by nullbears, and it's a wonderful place to start dipping your toes into nullsec. Not my cup of tea, personally, since I've grown to despise NRDS stances, but that may exactly be the reason why you'll like it.

Good luck-
Janna Sway
Ember Inc.
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
#15 - 2013-10-05 19:47:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Janna Sway
Early on, Salvaging is pretty much the major activity in null for a low-SP character. To the poster above, why do you despise NRDS? What is toxic about it?
Mister Tuggles
Heretic Army
Sedition.
#16 - 2013-10-07 01:12:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Mister Tuggles
Katherine Raven wrote:
Jade III wrote:
Where is the best place a new pilot to null sec should move?

Would Curse be good? And should I consider joining a player-owned corp if I am moving to null sec? Last question, whats the difference in Null Sec and WH space?

These are the things I heard about Null sec:

*Players get a bunch of isk mining, or ratting
*No security status drop when engaging pilots
*Its more fun than high sec.
*Ratting gives you more security status in null sec

Worm Hole space:
*Sleepers give you alot of good money
*Somewhat safe to mine in



Two things, like that dude said, do not go by yourself.

Second, worm holes are never safe for anything. If you expect to be even 'somewhat' safe mining in a wormhole, fiery death is just a matter of time. If anything, mining in wormholes is pretty stressful, even if it is very profitable.




How is mining in a WH stressful? You put eyes on the holes, you mine with boosts in perfect safety.


Edit: Sorry to detract from the main topic.

Nullsec is basically a place for carebears to group together and blob targets. This is what nullbears call PvP. You can mine, and rat in just about perfect safety if you are in a Sov holding alliance as they usually have everyone in a 50 jump radius blued up. You have intel channels that let you know as soon as someone slips into a system, and you usually have 30 people sitting on bottle neck gates waiting to pop the unsuspecting "carebears" that happen by.

Now, in all honesty WH's are the most dangerous place to play in Eve. There is no local chat so you do NOT know who, or what is in your system. It has the same rules as Nullsec (can use bombs, bubbles, etc). You have to live out of a POS. Living out of a POS is probably one of the worst things about WH's as the logistics to move anything into, and out of it are a huge pain. The higher class the system you go, the higher the pain the butt it is to move things. You have to probe out exits, anoms, etc, which requires you to actually train, and use probe skills. You will use them daily. They are usually required to even get accepted into a WH corp.

That being said WH's are FUN. The people you play with are usually a higher caliber player than the people you will group with in nullsec as they actually have to use tactics to fight instead of just numbers.

Lowsec is also fun. I like to think of it as a stepping stone into becoming a better Eve player. You get PvP, PvE, and all that good stuff.
Janna Sway
Ember Inc.
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
#17 - 2013-10-07 05:13:25 UTC
Mister Tuggles wrote:
Katherine Raven wrote:
Jade III wrote:
Where is the best place a new pilot to null sec should move?

Would Curse be good? And should I consider joining a player-owned corp if I am moving to null sec? Last question, whats the difference in Null Sec and WH space?

These are the things I heard about Null sec:

*Players get a bunch of isk mining, or ratting
*No security status drop when engaging pilots
*Its more fun than high sec.
*Ratting gives you more security status in null sec

Worm Hole space:
*Sleepers give you alot of good money
*Somewhat safe to mine in



Two things, like that dude said, do not go by yourself.

Second, worm holes are never safe for anything. If you expect to be even 'somewhat' safe mining in a wormhole, fiery death is just a matter of time. If anything, mining in wormholes is pretty stressful, even if it is very profitable.




How is mining in a WH stressful? You put eyes on the holes, you mine with boosts in perfect safety.


Edit: Sorry to detract from the main topic.

Nullsec is basically a place for carebears to group together and blob targets. This is what nullbears call PvP. You can mine, and rat in just about perfect safety if you are in a Sov holding alliance as they usually have everyone in a 50 jump radius blued up. You have intel channels that let you know as soon as someone slips into a system, and you usually have 30 people sitting on bottle neck gates waiting to pop the unsuspecting "carebears" that happen by.

Now, in all honesty WH's are the most dangerous place to play in Eve. There is no local chat so you do NOT know who, or what is in your system. It has the same rules as Nullsec (can use bombs, bubbles, etc). You have to live out of a POS. Living out of a POS is probably one of the worst things about WH's as the logistics to move anything into, and out of it are a huge pain. The higher class the system you go, the higher the pain the butt it is to move things. You have to probe out exits, anoms, etc, which requires you to actually train, and use probe skills. You will use them daily. They are usually required to even get accepted into a WH corp.

That being said WH's are FUN. The people you play with are usually a higher caliber player than the people you will group with in nullsec as they actually have to use tactics to fight instead of just numbers.

Lowsec is also fun. I like to think of it as a stepping stone into becoming a better Eve player. You get PvP, PvE, and all that good stuff.


The summary of all this would then be: "I like lowsec, I like WH space, I like WH space more, and I don't like nullsec."
Speedkermit Damo
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2013-10-08 14:41:58 UTC
BenDover wrote:
Speedkermit Damo wrote:

I recommend you apply to to CVA, or any of the other alliances in Providence. They are all very friendly to newer players, and it;s a good place to start out in Null-sec.


This. The Provi block is swarmed by nullbears, and it's a wonderful place to start dipping your toes into nullsec. Not my cup of tea, personally, since I've grown to despise NRDS stances, but that may exactly be the reason why you'll like it.

Good luck-


I started out in Provi-bloc too. What you will also find in Providence is plentiful opportunities to learn PvP.

Protect me from knowing what I don't need to know. Protect me from even knowing that there are things to know that I don't know. Protect me from knowing that I decided not to know about the things that I decided not to know about. Amen.
Cage Man
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
Pandemic Horde
#19 - 2013-10-08 19:35:30 UTC
Provi is a terrible place to start your null experience in. They are NRDS ( Not Red Don't Shoot). if you bump into someone while out, you will need to check the KOS checker, make sure if he can or can not be shot at before you shoot them. It takes time, and you could be half dead before you get it all figured out.
Other areas of null are NBSI (Not Blue Shoot It) no thought involved.. shoot whomever is not blue.
Cage Man
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
Pandemic Horde
#20 - 2013-10-08 19:37:09 UTC
Vyktor Abyss wrote:
Good news is upon you OP.

With the coming of Rubicon, you will be able to move to Null solo.

Just so long as you only ever fly interceptors you will be fine! Personally I'm looking forward to more Taranis time. Blink


What prey tell will you do in your solo interceptor ??? ratting? moon mining? mining ???
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