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Caldari and Minmatar Unite in a new Federation - Capsuleer and Non-Capsuleer alike

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Corlus Ademinan
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#1 - 2013-10-01 00:19:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Corlus Ademinan
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Supported by an unkown investor our corp is set to create a Federation in which Caldari and Minmatar capsuleers and non-capsuleers can work together. Our people are enemies by design not by choice. The Minmatar are allies with the Galliente because they help protect them against the Amarr and the Amarr are only our allies (Caldari) because of economic reasons couple with the ongoing war between the Galliente which does not necessarily involve the Amarr or Minmatar.

The Caldari and Minmatar are survivors. We both have been oppressed by another nation who deemed it necessary to impose thier culture and in some cases religions on us. We will show our people that we are not enemies and will work together and become stronger nations. But we need you to help bring this to reality.

The Plan

Short Term Goals

• Recruit new members to our cause. Minmatar and Caldari pilots are priority but we do accept Galliente. Obviously no Amarr except under extreme conditions and approved by the whole of the corp

• Both Mining and Military Ops will be scheduled and run on a consistent basis to improve our reputation and resources

• Research and trial group concerning the defense against Sansha Incursions

• To further our sustainability and independence we will lay the groundwork of an Indy department supplying ships and materials for corp use and profit

• Research and trial group into low security anti-slaver and anti-pirate ops

Long Term Goals
• For military operations we would like to hold a standing fleet of ships so to avoid as much as we can the loss of private ships involving corp operations

• Effective and efficient production of ships and materials to fill private orders for personal, corp, and alliance customers

• Become involved and ingrained within the pro-minmatar community and join the fight against those who oppress them. To ultimately gain the trust of both the Republic and State to form a positive co-existence

• Establish an alliance of like minded corps and pilots who share the same fight and philosophy as ourselves

• Create a Interplanetary Strike Force (Dust 514) either through Corp creation, contracts, or alliance

Looking for Leadership and Director positions as well. If you are currently in a position where you feel you have been hemmed in with no way of showing your leadership potential then join us and fulfill your potential

Contact Corlus Ademinan either through PM, Convo or reply to this posting

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Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#2 - 2013-10-01 00:33:46 UTC
So you'll accept Gallente pilots, will you? And why do you not expect your Caldari recruits to have a problem with that. Good luck keeping order amongst your baseliner staff too, one good drink on TovilToba day and I'd expect a lot of barfights.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.

Corlus Ademinan
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#3 - 2013-10-01 00:49:47 UTC
These recruits obviously will come in knowing that this venture is a joint effort that involves possibly old enemies which can hold painful memories and bitter rivalries. But if they are here they are here for a higher cause. As capsuleers we have a chance to make long lasting changes to this cluster of ours. Id rather be associated with those looking to make those positive changes than just to use our unique and powerful stature of relative immortality to hold the status quo. Its time that we evolved beyond a lifetime of human limitations.
Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#4 - 2013-10-01 01:10:24 UTC
Corlus Ademinan wrote:
These recruits obviously will come in knowing that this venture is a joint effort that involves possibly old enemies which can hold painful memories and bitter rivalries. But if they are here they are here for a higher cause. As capsuleers we have a chance to make long lasting changes to this cluster of ours. Id rather be associated with those looking to make those positive changes than just to use our unique and powerful stature of relative immortality to hold the status quo. Its time that we evolved beyond a lifetime of human limitations.


Except for the Amarrians? Because obviously the Minmatar can't be trusted to let bygones be bygones?

I'm just trying to discern WHICH grouping you're intending to insult here?

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.

Corlus Ademinan
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#5 - 2013-10-01 01:17:08 UTC
Not intending to insult any group. If one of our objectives is to derail slaving operations than how can we possibly let an Amarrian be a part of our group when a large part of thier religion is about holding people against thier will. I mentioned that even an Amarrian is welcome albeit the most specific of circumstances and approved by the entirety of the corp.

The war between the Amarrians and the Minmatar is in my view a harsher reality. Slavery is one of the greatest cruelties humanity can bestow upon itself. In my opinion it pales in comparison to the riff between Caldari and Galliente.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#6 - 2013-10-01 02:35:46 UTC
Corlus Ademinan wrote:

• Recruit new members to our cause. Minmatar and Caldari pilots are priority but we do accept Galliente. Obviously no Amarr except under extreme conditions and approved by the whole of the corp

Such disrespect to our allies and desire to lick our enemies butts is shameful disgrace, if not straightforward treason.
Those Caldari, that would participate in this, should take their own lives to wash this stain with their own blood.

Should such filth, not deserving name of Caldari, be encountered working for this... "union", they must be disposed of, like general traitors, pirates, outlaw exiles or gallente-supporting scum.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Andrea Okazon
Laurentson INC
#7 - 2013-10-01 13:03:26 UTC
Well, things seem to be getting off to a fabulous start.
Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#8 - 2013-10-01 14:39:44 UTC
Nothing more than a full and frank exchange of views. I just find it odd that an organisation that claims to be pro-Caldari as much as it is pro-Minmatar starts off by demeaning our centuries of struggle because 'the minmatar struggle is more legit'.

This is clearly a pro-Minmatar organisation - which is fine, but let's call a spanner a spanner, eh?

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.

Makkal Hanaya
Revenent Defence Corperation
#9 - 2013-10-01 15:54:09 UTC
Best of luck.

Render unto Khanid the things which are Khanid's; and unto God the things that are God's.

Seriphyn Inhonores
Elusenian Cooperative
#10 - 2013-10-01 17:08:38 UTC
The ongoing war between the Federation and Caldari certainly does involve the Minmatar. A third of the Federation being Minmatar is not a trivial detail.
Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#11 - 2013-10-01 17:46:58 UTC
Seriphyn Inhonores wrote:
The ongoing war between the Federation and Caldari certainly does involve the Minmatar. A third of the Federation being Minmatar is not a trivial detail.


You forget that we're capable of something the Federation evidently isn't. We don't see the matter of how they self-identify culturally or religously to be important. If they're politically Gallente then they're Gallente.

Everything else is really none of our business.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.

Eran Mintor
Metropolis Commercial Consortium
#12 - 2013-10-01 18:46:48 UTC
Oh lord. This brings back some painful memories. Where's John Revenent when you need him.

-Eran
Corlus Ademinan
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#13 - 2013-10-01 19:01:36 UTC
Thank you all for your opinions about the matter in which I would like to conduct my mission. This was never meant to be a debate but a declaration of a mission and an attempt to find those who are interested and share the same beliefs or want to help in this cause.

I understand fully that this was never going to be a widespread belief or popular cause but it is what I wish to attain with my relative immortality and I do hope there are others who feel the same. Whether this group stays very small or grows exponentially I do truly hope those who support this action come to my side publicly and put thier blood sweat and tears instead of just thier words or private support although I do appreciate it very much.
Korsavius
Revenent Defence Corperation
#14 - 2013-10-01 20:06:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Korsavius
Eran Mintor wrote:
Oh lord. This brings back some painful memories. Where's John Revenent when you need him.

-Eran

You wouldn't perhaps be referring to the Cal-Matari Program that I-RED once operated, would you? If so, then I believe you would be more interested in seeking me as I was the program's overseer following the defection of Pilot Cheiftan from our organization.


As for the original purpose of this declaration, I wish you good fortune, Mister Ademinan. If this really is a declaration to state the intentions of your organization, then perhaps you may find it to be of benefit to hire an attorney of some sort to draft a better, more precise document stating your intentions. As of now, your post detailing your organization's intentions seems a bit vague, if not poorly done.

Moitte.

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Eran Mintor
Metropolis Commercial Consortium
#15 - 2013-10-01 20:11:13 UTC
Korsavius wrote:
Eran Mintor wrote:
Oh lord. This brings back some painful memories. Where's John Revenent when you need him.

-Eran

You wouldn't perhaps be referring to the Cal-Matari Program that I-RED once operated, would you? If so, then I believe you would be more interested in seeking me as I was the program's overseer following the defection of Pilot Cheiftan from our organization.


That's an interesting take on things...

-Eran
Corlus Ademinan
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#16 - 2013-10-01 20:20:29 UTC
Korsavius wrote:
Eran Mintor wrote:
Oh lord. This brings back some painful memories. Where's John Revenent when you need him.

-Eran

You wouldn't perhaps be referring to the Cal-Matari Program that I-RED once operated, would you? If so, then I believe you would be more interested in seeking me as I was the program's overseer following the defection of Pilot Cheiftan from our organization.


As for the original purpose of this declaration, I wish you good fortune, Mister Ademinan. If this really is a declaration to state the intentions of your organization, then perhaps you may find it to be of benefit to hire an attorney of some sort to draft a better, more precise document stating your intentions. As of now, your post detailing your organization's intentions seems a bit vague, if not poorly done.

Moitte.


Then I am afraid I have shown my somewhat inexperience in this type of complicated political experiment. If you know any experts who would be sympathetic to this cause I would be greatful for thier expertise.
Eran Mintor
Metropolis Commercial Consortium
#17 - 2013-10-01 20:28:27 UTC
Well you can talk to the pilot Verin Hakatain, known as "Stitcher" in your neocom, since he seems to be working towards enhancing relationships between Minmatar and Caldari. As far as past experiments...well they didn't end well. Cheiftan, John Revenent, or myself could tell you more but it's not something I like to talk about and Cheiftan is retired to my knowledge. Haven't seen John for some time but I'm sure he's still around.

I might suggest talking to Stitcher. In the meantime, try to figure out how you're going to ensure the two sides stick together when the going gets rough. It's a little more complicated than comparing history to create strong bonds. The cultures are massively different, though Stitcher would disagree.

-Eran
Katrina Oniseki
Oniseki-Raata Internal Watch
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#18 - 2013-10-01 21:56:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Katrina Oniseki
Eran Mintor wrote:
Where's John Revenent when you need him.

Eran Mintor wrote:
Haven't seen John for some time but I'm sure he's still around.


Taishō Revenent is currently occupied with our Syndicate campaigns. He has neither the time nor inclination to get involved in Cal-Matari relations. That ship has long since sailed.

If you'd like to arrange a meeting with the Taishō on some other subject more relevant to our operations, such as direct trade, please have your proposal in written form sent to my inbox for review.

Katrina Oniseki

Eran Mintor
Metropolis Commercial Consortium
#19 - 2013-10-01 23:30:14 UTC
Katrina Oniseki wrote:
Eran Mintor wrote:
Where's John Revenent when you need him.

Eran Mintor wrote:
Haven't seen John for some time but I'm sure he's still around.


Taishō Revenent is currently occupied with our Syndicate campaigns. He has neither the time nor inclination to get involved in Cal-Matari relations. That ship has long since sailed.

If you'd like to arrange a meeting with the Taishō on some other subject more relevant to our operations, such as direct trade, please have your proposal in written form sent to my inbox for review.


Ah no, I have no business with your Taishō at this time. You can certainly send my kind regards his way if you wish.

-Eran
Katrina Oniseki
Oniseki-Raata Internal Watch
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#20 - 2013-10-02 00:17:22 UTC
I will do so.

Katrina Oniseki

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